every time I get summoned here, I have a quick look around and find that this place gets worse and worse, it's like a black hole which mangles everything that gets sucked into it. src
normal for people that dump studies without any comments about them nor sections which to observe. It is one of my favourite tactics if i want to win a argument without any proof.
The ol Gish Gallop... Dump a copy pasta pile of links to studies (preferably behind pay walls) and claim victory unless your opponent refutes every one of them with studies of their own.
I love when you go on r/news and there's a guy replying to comments with 50 whole links supporting his position. Like, yeah dude, you're totally here having a casual, organic conversation and not agendaposting at all.
For people that say biology is on their side they sure turn into dumb dumb poo poo brains when discussing the different between a cis woman and trans woman in sports
I absolutely fucking HATE how libfems have started trying to emulate the right with 'facts/science prove I'm right!!!', but almost never even bother to drop some articles they've misinterpreted or a poorly-sourced infographic because there's virtually no scientific research that supports most of their positions and absolutely no research that supports the genderspecial 'enby' garbage, which by nature can have no basis in biology beyond gender-nonconformity, which is just a function of individual differences. It's like at one point in time some twitter loser posted a neuroimaging article showing some vague differences in trans vs. cis brains, and their orbiters saw it and said 'see look science is on our side' and then people saw those tweets and said 'science is on our side' and then more people saw those tweets and said 'science is on our side' and so-on until it became a thought-terminating cliche
At least that one person posted a couple of articles that don't even support the argument that transwomen are equal to biological women in athleticism but usually it's just 'sorry bigot science unlike you I believe in SCIENCE 😏'
Right everyone buckle the fuck up cause its time to settle this biology shite about trans women
Gross measures of body strength put the strength of biological females at 50-60% of biological males in the upper body and 60-70% as strong in the lower body. The differences in muscle density (as men have more muscle fibers in the same quantity of muscle) is based in genetic rather than hormonal factors, meaning that HRT (whilst lowering overall muscle mass to put a transwoman on par with a cis woman in terms of muscle mass) doesn't do shit to muscle density meaning that a transwoman and cis woman with the same muscle mass will still have markedly different body strength on average. In addition to this, males typically have a 56% greater lung volume to body mass ratio on average and a wider trachea and wider branching bronchi, providing a greater oxygen supply which, again, HRT wont affect at all due to it being a physiological feature not affected by biochemical homeostasis.
Now someone post this on the trans subreddit cause im not brave enough to
we're finding out biology is a lot more complicated then we thought
I see, so maybe if biology is so complex it might take more then a few oral injections of 10mg estradiol to change all the subtle differences present/absent in the bodies men/women🤔, just a thought ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
Nope, still haven't.
I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a drama poster. A moron.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-11-15
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1 pol__invictus__risen 2019-11-15
Lmao
1 Minimum_T-Giraff 2019-11-15
normal for people that dump studies without any comments about them nor sections which to observe. It is one of my favourite tactics if i want to win a argument without any proof.
1 OldDirtyBlaster 2019-11-15
The ol Gish Gallop... Dump a copy pasta pile of links to studies (preferably behind pay walls) and claim victory unless your opponent refutes every one of them with studies of their own.
1 BlackMansKryptonite 2019-11-15
I love when you go on r/news and there's a guy replying to comments with 50 whole links supporting his position. Like, yeah dude, you're totally here having a casual, organic conversation and not agendaposting at all.
And they eat it all. They eat it right up.
1 Protista_of_Peace 2019-11-15
Unless I'm stupid, one of the links was describing a study that's going to be done.
1 Alicesnakebae 2019-11-15
For people that say biology is on their side they sure turn into dumb dumb poo poo brains when discussing the different between a cis woman and trans woman in sports
1 snallygaster 2019-11-15
I absolutely fucking HATE how libfems have started trying to emulate the right with 'facts/science prove I'm right!!!', but almost never even bother to drop some articles they've misinterpreted or a poorly-sourced infographic because there's virtually no scientific research that supports most of their positions and absolutely no research that supports the genderspecial 'enby' garbage, which by nature can have no basis in biology beyond gender-nonconformity, which is just a function of individual differences. It's like at one point in time some twitter loser posted a neuroimaging article showing some vague differences in trans vs. cis brains, and their orbiters saw it and said 'see look science is on our side' and then people saw those tweets and said 'science is on our side' and then more people saw those tweets and said 'science is on our side' and so-on until it became a thought-terminating cliche
At least that one person posted a couple of articles that don't even support the argument that transwomen are equal to biological women in athleticism but usually it's just 'sorry bigot science unlike you I believe in SCIENCE 😏'
1 BioticAsset_VEGA 2019-11-15
Right everyone buckle the fuck up cause its time to settle this biology shite about trans women
Gross measures of body strength put the strength of biological females at 50-60% of biological males in the upper body and 60-70% as strong in the lower body. The differences in muscle density (as men have more muscle fibers in the same quantity of muscle) is based in genetic rather than hormonal factors, meaning that HRT (whilst lowering overall muscle mass to put a transwoman on par with a cis woman in terms of muscle mass) doesn't do shit to muscle density meaning that a transwoman and cis woman with the same muscle mass will still have markedly different body strength on average. In addition to this, males typically have a 56% greater lung volume to body mass ratio on average and a wider trachea and wider branching bronchi, providing a greater oxygen supply which, again, HRT wont affect at all due to it being a physiological feature not affected by biochemical homeostasis.
Now someone post this on the trans subreddit cause im not brave enough to
1 rocinantebabieca 2019-11-15
I really and truly and genuinely do not understand gender theory.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2019-11-15
You don't need too, it's peak current year
1 dramasexual 2019-11-15
Needing to understand things is disgusting transphobia sweaty
1 Platycel 2019-11-15
You are not supposed to understand it, you are supposed to believe it.
It's pretty much like religion, really.
1 Fortizen 2019-11-15
tldr: Gender and Sex are seperate. BUT DON'T YOU DARE ACT LIKE SEX EXISTS OR MATTERS IN ANY WAY
1 Platycel 2019-11-15
Who would have thought 10 years ago that it would be the left getting butthurt if you said that you don't give a fuck about gender.
1 fitness 2019-11-15
Despite being 0.5% of the population trannies account for 90% of the drama
1 lifts_throwawayFC 2019-11-15
I see, so maybe if biology is so complex it might take more then a few oral injections of 10mg estradiol to change all the subtle differences present/absent in the bodies men/women🤔, just a thought ¯_(ツ)_/¯
1 BasicallyADoctor 2019-11-15
Hmm let's peruse these studies
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6046513/
This is an outline for a potential future study
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm
This is about ladybrain which is not related to athletic ability
1 errderper 2019-11-15
Do you have a source on that?
Source?
A source. I need a source.
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
Nope, still haven't.
I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a drama poster. A moron.