The joke is that this November your vote counts exactly as much as a senile retiree whose political sources are nestled between a thread of gay furry porn and a thread of kids wearing swimsuits.
If you're acting under law, please tell me what status of human being they are, criminal, pow, whatever, and please tell me the exact rights of that class of human being in the law. Even criminals and pows are a status of human beings with rights, and they should have the rights accorded to those classes. I am completely uncomfortable granting you the ability to do as you wish with people with no clearly defined status under the law, it cannot be the law that there is no law with regards to a person.
216 of watermark1917's last 999 comments (21.62%) are in /r/ChapoTrapHouse. Their last comment there was on Nov. 23, 2019. Their total comment karma from /r/ChapoTrapHouse is 1940.
If they haven't been charged with a crime, they are not criminals. You can't play a double game, call them criminals to justify stripping them of all rights but at the same time never actually prosecute them criminally because criminals are in fact entitled to rights and if you treated them as criminals you'd have to give them those rights. Calling them criminals actually works against what you want to do.
If they are criminals, please produce the change sheet specifying the criminal statute they are being charged under and the trial they are going to have, and set their bail awaiting their teriyaki. If you cannot do that, you can't call them criminals. That's a false attempt at undermining the legal process. And your an idiot if you think you can abolish the legal process just because your consider ethnic cleansing more important than our rights, and this will never come back to hearing you.
Illegal immigration is literally a crime worse than raping and murdering a thousand children, and while child rapists deserve rights definitely, they are citizens after all, people the state seems to be illegal immigrants (we can totally trust its fair judgment) are animals without rights. I prioritize depriving illegal immigrants of rights above protecting the rights of citizens because I'm such a good person and this is good.
Also none of the people who are being treated as subhuman have actually been charged with a crime, and so legally are not criminals, because if we charged them with a crime we'd have to give them due process, which would be incredibly offensive and unjust. But I will still call them criminals anyway and use this as a justification for treating them as subhuman animals even though legally an actual criminal would never and could never be treated like this.
Criminal: a person who has been charged and convicted of a crime.
Apparently my definition of criminal is unpopular here. Can anyone point out the flaws and deficits in this definition, what is about being tried and convicted that outrages you so much that you completely abandon any sense of irony and just furiously downvote me any time I mention this? Like I could talk about how Holodomor didn't happen all day, but this one subject you seem particularly outraged to consider, that a criminal is one who has been tried and convicted of a crime. Do you think they have committed a crime? Are the ICE officers pretty sure? Then they are an alleged criminal. And if ICE chooses not to charge them with a crime, then certainly they can be no criminal at all, how can you be a criminal of you haven't been charged with a crime.
This basic concept seems ineffable to you. The most outrageous thing you have ever heard. Illegal immigrants are somehow a special class of human being, like certainly they are not criminals, for if they were criminals they would have the rights of criminals. And certainly they are not invaders, because if that child carried across the border in its mothers arms were in fact a soldier in an invading army, upon capture that baby would have at least three rights accorded to prisoners is war. But no, this is also an outrage to you. Invading armies and criminals such as child rapists, they are somehow of a higher class than that baby, they have rights but it is more evil and despicable than them. I'd agree that they aren't criminals, but I think you do too, because you would be incredibly offended if that were ever treated that well, that would be a violation of your rights by some baffling metrics, to treat what you call a criminal as a criminal, or to treat what you call an invader as an invader.
And also no one has rights who is declared an illegal immigrant, because once that has happened they have become a special class of human being outside the law, the playthings of the executive branch. I'm sure you're not worried though, you have trust in the government. This trust drives mostly from your white skin, if course you think you have nothing to worry about, it's not because you're not an illegal immigrant, it's because ICE are your bros and they'd never do that to you. So you're willing to trust them with powers to decide someone is below a criminal and an invader, a special extra low class of human being below all others that have ever existed, literally worse than a person who's raped a hundred children. And that's just fine that we live in a world like that, where that special status has been invented. Don't pretend that it has any precedent though, it doesn't, you made it up.
I believe we should write a law establishing exactly what rights this class of human being is, if you would like to give them no rights them please spell that out, as if now this special status does not actually exist in law and never has, and it's completely undefined. This so that we can stop existing in this pseudo legal wilderness that you masturbate too and call the law.
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1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-11-22
DEAL WITH IT RACIST
1 Kat_B0T 2019-11-22
It’s over for law&ordercels!
1 watermark1917 2019-11-22
If you're acting under law, please tell me what status of human being they are, criminal, pow, whatever, and please tell me the exact rights of that class of human being in the law. Even criminals and pows are a status of human beings with rights, and they should have the rights accorded to those classes. I am completely uncomfortable granting you the ability to do as you wish with people with no clearly defined status under the law, it cannot be the law that there is no law with regards to a person.
1 Kat_B0T 2019-11-22
We usually call them illegals around here tbh 🤔
1 retardedjewboy69 2019-11-22
Chapo check
1 ChapoDetected 2019-11-22
216 of watermark1917's last 999 comments (21.62%) are in /r/ChapoTrapHouse. Their last comment there was on Nov. 23, 2019. Their total comment karma from /r/ChapoTrapHouse is 1940.
1 retardedjewboy69 2019-11-22
Chapocels and seriousposts, peanut butter and jelly
1 Seattle_Bussy_Lmao 2019-11-22
💅
1 TaysSecondGussy 2019-11-22
Cool it with the SWERF dog whistles, please.
1 Kat_B0T 2019-11-22
‘SWERF thot whistles’ *
1 rocinantebabieca 2019-11-22
I hope that is a troll.
1 shhh_im_ban_evading 2019-11-22
Names literally ModernDemagogue definitely playing the part well.
1 d-amazo 2019-11-22
that's bait.
1 RochelleH 2019-11-22
That's got to be a troll. No one person could be so dumb, so virginal, socially stunted, and delusional all at once.
1 ironicshitpostr 2019-11-22
They are a redditor thho
1 FrostBittenSalsa 2019-11-22
Even Ed would come out ahead in this scenario
1 FearOfBees 2019-11-22
To be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand free movement between countries
1 watermark1917 2019-11-22
If they haven't been charged with a crime, they are not criminals. You can't play a double game, call them criminals to justify stripping them of all rights but at the same time never actually prosecute them criminally because criminals are in fact entitled to rights and if you treated them as criminals you'd have to give them those rights. Calling them criminals actually works against what you want to do.
If they are criminals, please produce the change sheet specifying the criminal statute they are being charged under and the trial they are going to have, and set their bail awaiting their teriyaki. If you cannot do that, you can't call them criminals. That's a false attempt at undermining the legal process. And your an idiot if you think you can abolish the legal process just because your consider ethnic cleansing more important than our rights, and this will never come back to hearing you.
1 FearOfBees 2019-11-22
Did you just fall for a rick and morty pasta?
1 retardedjewboy69 2019-11-22
Hes averaging 1 dramapost every 3 minutes and your concern is him falling for pasta? He should be instutionalized
1 -Subdivisions- 2019-11-22
Hey retard if I shoot someone and no one finds out am I a criminal
1 watermark1917 2019-11-22
Illegal immigration is literally a crime worse than raping and murdering a thousand children, and while child rapists deserve rights definitely, they are citizens after all, people the state seems to be illegal immigrants (we can totally trust its fair judgment) are animals without rights. I prioritize depriving illegal immigrants of rights above protecting the rights of citizens because I'm such a good person and this is good.
Also none of the people who are being treated as subhuman have actually been charged with a crime, and so legally are not criminals, because if we charged them with a crime we'd have to give them due process, which would be incredibly offensive and unjust. But I will still call them criminals anyway and use this as a justification for treating them as subhuman animals even though legally an actual criminal would never and could never be treated like this.
1 CommissarCletus 2019-11-22
Keep coping with the fact that the guv’ment wont mass import Mexicans so you can get some tasty ethnic brown people food in your gated neighborhood.
1 watermark1917 2019-11-22
Criminal: a person who has been charged and convicted of a crime.
Apparently my definition of criminal is unpopular here. Can anyone point out the flaws and deficits in this definition, what is about being tried and convicted that outrages you so much that you completely abandon any sense of irony and just furiously downvote me any time I mention this? Like I could talk about how Holodomor didn't happen all day, but this one subject you seem particularly outraged to consider, that a criminal is one who has been tried and convicted of a crime. Do you think they have committed a crime? Are the ICE officers pretty sure? Then they are an alleged criminal. And if ICE chooses not to charge them with a crime, then certainly they can be no criminal at all, how can you be a criminal of you haven't been charged with a crime.
This basic concept seems ineffable to you. The most outrageous thing you have ever heard. Illegal immigrants are somehow a special class of human being, like certainly they are not criminals, for if they were criminals they would have the rights of criminals. And certainly they are not invaders, because if that child carried across the border in its mothers arms were in fact a soldier in an invading army, upon capture that baby would have at least three rights accorded to prisoners is war. But no, this is also an outrage to you. Invading armies and criminals such as child rapists, they are somehow of a higher class than that baby, they have rights but it is more evil and despicable than them. I'd agree that they aren't criminals, but I think you do too, because you would be incredibly offended if that were ever treated that well, that would be a violation of your rights by some baffling metrics, to treat what you call a criminal as a criminal, or to treat what you call an invader as an invader.
And also no one has rights who is declared an illegal immigrant, because once that has happened they have become a special class of human being outside the law, the playthings of the executive branch. I'm sure you're not worried though, you have trust in the government. This trust drives mostly from your white skin, if course you think you have nothing to worry about, it's not because you're not an illegal immigrant, it's because ICE are your bros and they'd never do that to you. So you're willing to trust them with powers to decide someone is below a criminal and an invader, a special extra low class of human being below all others that have ever existed, literally worse than a person who's raped a hundred children. And that's just fine that we live in a world like that, where that special status has been invented. Don't pretend that it has any precedent though, it doesn't, you made it up.
I believe we should write a law establishing exactly what rights this class of human being is, if you would like to give them no rights them please spell that out, as if now this special status does not actually exist in law and never has, and it's completely undefined. This so that we can stop existing in this pseudo legal wilderness that you masturbate too and call the law.
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1 LongPostBot 2019-11-22
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1 IraqiLobster 2019-11-22
Imagine writing all this just to own some invisible rightoid on arr slash drama
1 caliberoverreaching 2019-11-22
I know you're trolling, but what if a guy rapes and murders someone but doesn't get caught?
Is he not a criminal?
1 JeanPeuplu 2019-11-22
TL;DR