I was able to get 5 majors and a masters with my VA benefits (though I admit this isn’t typical) off of 3 years of service. It’s true it was one way out of poverty, but it came with some high costs to me as well. It’s so sad this is one of very few ways out. I try to talk any female out of joining.
yeah, vaping is one of those technologies that had such a potential to solve a serious societal problem run into the ground by idiots.
First it was subie driving retards blowing fog machine sized clouds everywhere, getting it banned everywhere. Then Zoomers chainsmoking high power juuls from the age of 12, and finally braindead stoners 'vaping' cannibis oil rather than water based juices, and filling their lungs with wax.
Actually between that and the fagbacco lobby; surprised it hasnt been blanket banned tbh.
Fuck you, I was reading /r/drama back when SRD was the edgier, funnier sub. It's pretty much the only way I consume reddit anymore. But still, haven't seen a peep about this on Google News or Fox News or anywhere...
Yes it was a compromise after trump was impeached they got the trade deal done too which is strange because they impeached him but after they asked for smoking to be raised to 21 because 1/4th of all zoomers vape and it's an epidemic. He also got an extra 1.5b for the wall, and uhh repealed cadillac tax on health plans, creates the space force officially, federal 12 week parental leave, troops a raise and the patriot act was unfortunately renewed. So overall fairly gay with some sapceshit and cope .
Show me in the constitution where it says you have the right to vape. The goverment got all these kids hooked on vape now theyre banning it. It is an obvious distraction from the real issue where our rights are ACTUALLY disappearing: the second amendment.
The only argument against that is that they can fight and die for their country but lets be real most of them are cooming and getting ready to watch the next capeshit, while simultaneously being unable to form natural and healthy relationships.
Banning 18 year olds from buying vapes would probably affect minors. It prevents kids who are still in high school from being able to purchase and then give them to other kids at school. That's why a couple countries upped their legal drinking age to 19.
My point is do you think more teenagers would drink if they could go buy liquor from the corner store at 14 or if they had to convince someone 21 to buy it for them. Either way they'll drink but some won't want to go through the process of doing something illegal/having a middle man. No one should say that it will solve the problem but it does make it a bit better.
Maybe, but since the person above with a way to solve the problem had their comment deleted, I instead propose simply keeping all teenagers in monitored cages with a steady supply of Fortnite and TikTok.
Something doesn't need to be on the constitution for it to be a right you retard. The constitution is just meant to protect your rights or enforce your obligations at the highest level.
Technically anything that restricts what you can do or obligates what you must do is a restriction to rights.
I just realized you were being serious when you said
Technically anything that restricts what you can do or obligates what you must do is a restriction to rights
This is by far the most retarted take on rights I have ever seen. This may be the case if youre an anarchist under the age of 20 or using the defenition to the most liberal extreme but it essentially shits on the entire history and philosophy of what a right is and is not. I would love to see your metric for defening what a right is.
The simplest definition is what you can do without repercussions from government.
Every single definition of the word "right" you can find does not even mention the word governmet. Rights are certain entitlements that you're born with. The only thing the government has to do with rights is that they do not violate them or that they guarentee them.
There are more philosophical definitions you can apply, but it becomes completely subjective
Great way to try to hide the fact that you dont know what a right is
you automatically think that a restriction on rights must have a negative connotation
My first comment was not serious but thanks for thinking it was
Seems how you are too retarded to even look up the definition on Wikipedia before writing a ton of retarded shit, here:
Rights are legal, social, or ethical principles of freedom or entitlement; that is, rights are the fundamental normative rules about what is allowed of people or owed to people, according to some legal system, social convention, or ethical theory.
Seems how you are too retarded to even look up the definition on Wikipedia before writing a ton of retarded shit, here:
Lol thanks for showing me that you have zero knowledge about what you are talking about. You unironically used wikipedia for a complicated and nuanced topic. Even the entry you used stated this. But let's go with your definition for a minuet and get back to what I quoted
everything is a right until the government says no
Socially and ethically you would be wrong. You can do anything that's allowed by the government and it will still be considered a non-right both ethically and socially. Legally you're only right if you take a look at the law and the reason las exists at an incredibly basic way so congrats on that. You also didn't read the full entry go back and do that.
Also you know my first comment was not meant to be taken serious, what exactly are you trying to prove with all this?
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Do retards? Because I sincerely hope your caregivers and tenders give you the care and attention so that you can live as full and happy a life as you are capable of.
Good news it doesn't take effect until Sept. Bad news is - fuck all those people between 18-21 that already smoke I guess? Don't worry, the pharmaceutical industry will be there to help ween you off.
I will grandfather anyone in that has previously purchased from us. Might have to use PP or something.
Let’s be honest, this won’t stop anything. Do you think underage kids obtain cigs and vapes legally anyway? All it will do is make them buy it illegally from a friend, or online for 3 more years.
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5 BernieMadeoffSanders 2019-12-21
NOW RAISE THE VOTING AGE
2 Platycel 2019-12-21
NOW RAISE THE AGE OF CONSENT
2 BernieMadeoffSanders 2019-12-21
pizzashill on suicidewatch
4 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
Current age is still too high for a diddler like him
1 BernieMadeoffSanders 2019-12-21
-1 wow pizza defense force is lit
-1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
Do they ever stop????
2 BernieMadeoffSanders 2019-12-21
fucking nerds i can imagine they have a siren and light that goes off in their mothers basement alerting them someone is posting the facts on PS
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
The PDF is really in full force today. No one on this sub gets defended as much as pizza. Really makes you think doesn’t it.
1 AnnoyinTheGoyim 2019-12-21
I think I’ve heard of those PDF things, they’re pedofiles right?
3 ReductionReduced 2019-12-21
AAAAAHHHHH I GOTTA SMOOOOOOOK AHHHHHH IM SMOOOOOKING
2 zerostile 2019-12-21
Lmao look at how many redditors are literal children. No wonder this website is so fucking stupid
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
CANT STOP VAPE NATION
2 DangerNut 2019-12-21
If you are going to bullshit...go all out...
2 radical__centrism 2019-12-21
Man, fuck these kids. If it takes raising the age to 21 so I can have my Monster Energy flavored vape juice so be it.
2 Krystalana 2019-12-21
yeah, vaping is one of those technologies that had such a potential to solve a serious societal problem run into the ground by idiots.
First it was subie driving retards blowing fog machine sized clouds everywhere, getting it banned everywhere. Then Zoomers chainsmoking high power juuls from the age of 12, and finally braindead stoners 'vaping' cannibis oil rather than water based juices, and filling their lungs with wax.
Actually between that and the fagbacco lobby; surprised it hasnt been blanket banned tbh.
1 Bummunism 2019-12-21
Altria (Marlboro) owns a large share of Juul. Reynolds American (Camel) owns Vuse. Tobacco lobby wants vapes to stay.
1 TouchFIuffyTaiI 2019-12-21
Altria isn't Marlboro, it's Phillip Morris.
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1 Bummunism 2019-12-21
I'm not sure if that makes a difference, not that smart.
1 drugsarecool419 2019-12-21
tobacco lobby wants more regulations tho
1 SnapshillBot 2019-12-21
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1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
More here
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vaping/comments/edmlrq/legal_age_to_buy_cigarettes_vapes_now_21_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
1 AngelaBeedle 2019-12-21
Damn how have I not heard this news until now?
Sucks to be a young tobacco user I guess
2 a_few 2019-12-21
It’s ‘uooser’
1 deadlight_holiday 2019-12-21
Seriously, why am I first reading about this on /r/drama, why was this not in the news?
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
Imagine thinking that there is a better place to go for news than r/drama. New fags out out out
2 high_side 2019-12-21
-Self-described longtimer, Kaiser-romulus
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
Bitch I’ve been here like six years
1 deadlight_holiday 2019-12-21
Fuck you, I was reading /r/drama back when SRD was the edgier, funnier sub. It's pretty much the only way I consume reddit anymore. But still, haven't seen a peep about this on Google News or Fox News or anywhere...
2 Kellere31 2019-12-21
In hindsight this feels like a fucking fever dream now lmao.
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
Like I said. Imagine thinking there is a better source for news than r/drama. Can you not read?
NEW FAGS OUT OUT OUT
I’d rather have pizzaneet here than you.
1 qksj29aai_ 2019-12-21
Where is pizza? Haven't heard from him recently
1 Lifting_Sexytimes 2019-12-21
Serious question - when exactly did r/Drama transition from being a faggy SRD-lite to being a shitlording sub?
1 texanapocalypse33 2019-12-21
I found out about Christchurch shooting here lol
1 AngelaBeedle 2019-12-21
I googled it and it’s all over the news apparently. Idk how I missed it
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
Because it was the libs who pushed for it and reddit will never talk I’ll of the libs
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/12/19/health/cigarette-sales-age-21.amp.html
3 -M-o-X- 2019-12-21
imagine not knowing trump is anti-drug and this all started as his response to those dead vapers
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
Imagine ignoring the quotes in the article from democratic senators who have been pushing for this since 2015.
1 -M-o-X- 2019-12-21
boomers gonna boomer
2 BrownGuyInNewEngland 2019-12-21
Fucking nanny state libs
If I want to give myself cancer at 18 thats my goddamn right ✊✊✊
That being said the youngcel seethe is always welcome
4 AlveolarPressure 2019-12-21
It's my God given right to get a double lung transplant at age 16 because I am addicted to Chinese bootleg THC vapes
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
Actually, yeah it is.
2 FearOfBees 2019-12-21
Yes it was a compromise after trump was impeached they got the trade deal done too which is strange because they impeached him but after they asked for smoking to be raised to 21 because 1/4th of all zoomers vape and it's an epidemic. He also got an extra 1.5b for the wall, and uhh repealed cadillac tax on health plans, creates the space force officially, federal 12 week parental leave, troops a raise and the patriot act was unfortunately renewed. So overall fairly gay with some sapceshit and cope .
2 high_side 2019-12-21
Cool link.
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
"yeah hello is this the based police? I would like to report an incident"
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
😏😏😏
1 dogDroolsCatsRules 2019-12-21
Okay, the libs are great.
1 a_few 2019-12-21
Too much 🐎 not enough 👟
1 Giulio-Cesare 2019-12-21
Eh, if I could get packs of Turkish Royals when I was 14 these zoomers can find a way to get their vapeshit before 21.
Shit, my 15 year old nephew got suspended for having a Juul in class, so if that motherfucker can find a way to nab one no one else has any excuse.
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
VAPE NATION RISE UP
1 Brahmasexual 2019-12-21
Didn’t you feel like such a sophisticate smoking Turkish blends?
1 FroppyHoppyMyFloppy 2019-12-21
Why don’t you homos just smoke a cigarette?
1 high_side 2019-12-21
Not as much as it sucks to be an old tobacco user?
1 Dank_Skeletons 2019-12-21
Who the fuck smokes tobacco anymore?
1 seenten 2019-12-21
What do you think is in all thise flavored juul pods every zoomer is sucking on?
1 The_Great_I_Am_Not 2019-12-21
Future steps: Raise the of adulthood, further raise the age of allowance to do this, and access the internet
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
What should the age to watch and do coomer films be?
1 The_Great_I_Am_Not 2019-12-21
Current research indicates ~ 25-28.
But still in question.
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
Show me in the constitution where it says you have the right to vape. The goverment got all these kids hooked on vape now theyre banning it. It is an obvious distraction from the real issue where our rights are ACTUALLY disappearing: the second amendment.
6 a_few 2019-12-21
Imagine unironically citing the document that allowed foids to vote
4 ploppercan 2019-12-21
Yes because 18-20 year olds are "kids." Fucking moron.
5 AugustinesBitchBoy 2019-12-21
The only argument against that is that they can fight and die for their country but lets be real most of them are cooming and getting ready to watch the next capeshit, while simultaneously being unable to form natural and healthy relationships.
3 queerjihad 2019-12-21
Another argument is that it's retarded:
They're passing this law because they think it'll prevent minors from starting vaping but this law has no effect on minors, only 18-20 year olds.
They should rather do something that actually affects kids, like executing any minor who is caught vaping.
2 AugustinesBitchBoy 2019-12-21
Banning 18 year olds from buying vapes would probably affect minors. It prevents kids who are still in high school from being able to purchase and then give them to other kids at school. That's why a couple countries upped their legal drinking age to 19.
1 seenten 2019-12-21
Then they'll just buy them from the 21 year old druggie orbiter who still hangs around his old high school.
1 AugustinesBitchBoy 2019-12-21
Such a retard argument, the point is less people will vape because it is still more difficult to get them.
1 seenten 2019-12-21
Not sure if you've ever been a teenager but they find a way to do stupid shit.
1 AugustinesBitchBoy 2019-12-21
My point is do you think more teenagers would drink if they could go buy liquor from the corner store at 14 or if they had to convince someone 21 to buy it for them. Either way they'll drink but some won't want to go through the process of doing something illegal/having a middle man. No one should say that it will solve the problem but it does make it a bit better.
1 seenten 2019-12-21
Maybe, but since the person above with a way to solve the problem had their comment deleted, I instead propose simply keeping all teenagers in monitored cages with a steady supply of Fortnite and TikTok.
1 ConcreteAddictedCity 2019-12-21
You don't need cigarettes to blow up Afghans
2 high_side 2019-12-21
Wow, you are mad.
2 Stenwalden 2019-12-21
Most 20 - 30 olds are fucking children if box office numbers are anything to go by.
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
everyone under 30 is a kid
4 ManBearFridge 2019-12-21
Something doesn't need to be on the constitution for it to be a right you retard. The constitution is just meant to protect your rights or enforce your obligations at the highest level.
Technically anything that restricts what you can do or obligates what you must do is a restriction to rights.
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
shut up commie go back to europe
1 ManBearFridge 2019-12-21
I'm going to have to stand my ground and call you retarded again
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
doesnt matter if I am retarded I am still right. youre wrong in an argument with a retard how does that feel?
1 ManBearFridge 2019-12-21
You aren't, that's why I called you retarded to begin with.
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
the second amendment on the constitution would beg to differ
1 ManBearFridge 2019-12-21
I bet
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
I just realized you were being serious when you said
This is by far the most retarted take on rights I have ever seen. This may be the case if youre an anarchist under the age of 20 or using the defenition to the most liberal extreme but it essentially shits on the entire history and philosophy of what a right is and is not. I would love to see your metric for defening what a right is.
1 ManBearFridge 2019-12-21
The simplest definition is what you can do without repercussions from government. They encompass your liberty.
There are more philosophical definitions you can apply, but it becomes completely subjective.
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
Every single definition of the word "right" you can find does not even mention the word governmet. Rights are certain entitlements that you're born with. The only thing the government has to do with rights is that they do not violate them or that they guarentee them.
Great way to try to hide the fact that you dont know what a right is
My first comment was not serious but thanks for thinking it was
1 ManBearFridge 2019-12-21
Seems how you are too retarded to even look up the definition on Wikipedia before writing a ton of retarded shit, here:
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
Lol thanks for showing me that you have zero knowledge about what you are talking about. You unironically used wikipedia for a complicated and nuanced topic. Even the entry you used stated this. But let's go with your definition for a minuet and get back to what I quoted
Socially and ethically you would be wrong. You can do anything that's allowed by the government and it will still be considered a non-right both ethically and socially. Legally you're only right if you take a look at the law and the reason las exists at an incredibly basic way so congrats on that. You also didn't read the full entry go back and do that.
Also you know my first comment was not meant to be taken serious, what exactly are you trying to prove with all this?
1 ManBearFridge 2019-12-21
That I was right that you are a retard if initially for the wrong reason.
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
👍
3 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
It’s the in thing to say you have a “right” to something that you really don’t.
2 simplicity3000 2019-12-21
The government is refusing to acknowledge the existence of vape people, violating their basic human rights.
3 Aletherios 2019-12-21
Well excuse me I thought this was America
1 MrPanFriedNoodle 2019-12-21
GTFO of this sub, Nazi incel. The REAL amendment that is at risk is the 19th
2 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
AND THATS A GOOD THING
2 MrPanFriedNoodle 2019-12-21
Did you just fucking downvote me? Man up and answer the fucking question bitch boi
2 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I don’t upvote or downvote anyone.
3 MrPanFriedNoodle 2019-12-21
Radically centrist and based as usual. Oh Kaiser, you're so inspirational and angelic. Pls fuck my sister
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-12-21
Tell her to call me up
1 MrPanFriedNoodle 2019-12-21
She only communicates via FB messenger
2 DeathBahamutXXX 2019-12-21
I just downvoted your comment.
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I downvoted you whatchu gonna do about it ?
0 MrPanFriedNoodle 2019-12-21
Idk prob go watch troon porn
1 Ill_Regal 2019-12-21
I don’t vape or smoke and hate the activity but this is still pretty bullshit
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
ok zoomer
1 Ill_Regal 2019-12-21
Yes
1 InternJannie 2019-12-21
Ok doomer
1 Phantom_Engineer 2019-12-21
9th amendment gang RISE up!
1 gnome_mage 2019-12-21
The second amendment is a meme. Change my mind.
Edit: thought so, guntards
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
I dont have to change your mind. Read the constitution
1 gnome_mage 2019-12-21
Why should I? If YOU care about it, then YOU go read it
1 911roofer 2019-12-21
Theirs multiple supreme court dissertations you could be reading right now.
1 gnome_mage 2019-12-21
Yeah fuck off
There’s
Retard
1 911roofer 2019-12-21
Why you gotta be so mean?
1 gnome_mage 2019-12-21
Guntards don’t deserve respect
1 911roofer 2019-12-21
Do retards? Because I sincerely hope your caregivers and tenders give you the care and attention so that you can live as full and happy a life as you are capable of.
1 shitcapedcrusader 2019-12-21
That’s funny because I hope his caregivers pinch him and call him a fag
1 gnome_mage 2019-12-21
Your mum is my caretaker and she slobs on my downie dick daily
1 15nelsoc 2019-12-21
Lol meme or not, the guntards can kill you at will no matter how low their iq
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-12-21
This violates my 3rd Amendment rights.
1 fgdhsizbsisvsizbaj 2019-12-21
If they said constitutional rights this wouldn’t be a braindead take
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
my comment wasnt serious but since there are people that think it is please tell me your metric for defining a right and how vaping falls under it
1 fgdhsizbsisvsizbaj 2019-12-21
1 5T48J6ff 2019-12-21
Yes
1 RerolledANewAccount 2019-12-21
If only they could weaponize vapes so they would be covered by the second amendment
1 Lord_Sticky 2019-12-21
Addictcel zoomers in shambles
1 ArlenBilldozer 2019-12-21
How else are people going to find the high school and college cool kids/sluts now?!?!
1 InternJannie 2019-12-21
If she smokes, she pokes
1 Giulio-Cesare 2019-12-21
It never even began for zoomers.
1 Chapose 2019-12-21
Good
1 _Suprememe_ 2019-12-21
Just raise the age of legal adulthood to 21 already.
1 [deleted] 2019-12-21
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1 MooseHeckler 2019-12-21
Vape Nysh
1 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2019-12-21
This would be terrible Jews if I was a degenerate that was afflicted with various vices.
1 Lysis10 2019-12-21
Zoomers mad.
1 high_side 2019-12-21
Old enough to die, old enough to douche.
1 Stenwalden 2019-12-21
Imagine still smoking or vaping at the age of 18
1 lol_te_gusto 2019-12-21
😴😴😴
1 jaredschaffer27 2019-12-21
On one hand this is a ridiculous and retarded overreach of federal power, but on the other hand vapers deserve far far worse.
1 gnome_mage 2019-12-21
Guntards don’t deserve respect
1 Chapose 2019-12-21
1 kennygspart 2019-12-21
Let’s be honest, this won’t stop anything. Do you think underage kids obtain cigs and vapes legally anyway? All it will do is make them buy it illegally from a friend, or online for 3 more years.