NOOOO YOU CANT DO YOUR PODCAST WITH YOUR LIFELONG FRIENDS NOOO THEYLL SHARE DANGEROUS UNSUBSTANTIATED CONSPIRACY THEORIES NOOOO YOU HAVE TO TELL YOUR CLOSE FRIEND OF TWO DECADES YOU CANT HANG OUT ANYMORE BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IN FLAT EARTH NOOOO
I once saw someone bring Daryl Davis up in an argument with B--df--n, in an attempt to convince them that engaging with your political opponents is more productive than playing a retarded game of whack-a-mole deplatforming. B--df--n's response was "What Davis does isn't effective because we can't be sure those neo-nazis didn't revert back to their old ways afterwards".
The really ironic part is that deplatforming doesn't make nazis disappear. It sends them deeper into echo chambers. It makes them worse. I've watched it happen over and over again. Just look at Voat.
We know that deplatforming doesn't work and that engagement does but engaging is so much more work and doesn't let me bully people, you know?
I think it ultimately comes down to the fact that a lot of people who insist on deplatforming just aren't very good at talking to people - they can't get inside their opponent's heads and can't figure out what makes them tick. I've had them unironically tell me it's no use arguing with Shapiro-types because "they'll use rhetorical tricks to confuse you and win the argument", but they can't see that this isn't a reason to deplatform them - it's a reason for you to up your conversational game.
But yeah, god forbid you put some effort into this cause that apparently defines who you are as a person. God forbid you'd be surprised when weird smells start coming out from that rug you've pushed everything under.
Joe lives in the most liberal city, in the most liberal state, and is a public figure. He could be right wing, we'll just never know until he retires because he is in cancel culture central. He's not dumb.
He appeals to both sides, but keeps it vague at most times. He'll sing a slightly different tune for each guest.
If it's a conservative guest, he's center. If it's a liberal guest, he's center-left.
How does it feel to be a filthy bedouin who belongs to a lineage and culture which has never actually accomplished anything for itself? The only remarkable traits of your people are that they sit atop oil which white people pay you for and that you are dishonest and relatively dim witted. If western leaders weren't a bunch of jew addled traitors they would have wiped your people off the face of the earth and simply taken your oil rather than paid your retarded royalty a single cent.
Now we have a scenario in which a bunch of dune coons run around playing 21st century warlord with weaponry their stupid people couldn't possibly invent and shitting up life on earth for everybody. We never should have sold you so much as a Lamborghini let alone a fucking autocannon. Handing you sand niggers modern weaponry is like handing a small child a hand grenade.
If your people were worth their weight in salt they would turn their own lands into a place fit for human beings. Since they aren't able to, they flee to our lands and proceed to breed like rats while feeding their children with fraudulently earned income and welfare paid for by white people. You and your ilk will eventually outnumber us in our homes and our lands will become as shitty and useless as your lands. Cograts, you'll achieve dar es salaam but you won't have running water or a functioning power grid. You played yourself.
Shameful behavior from a deceitful desert tribe. Yet you feel pride. So strange.
The standard deflection is "cancel culture doesn't exist because people got mad at this multi-millionaire celebrity and nothing happened!" as if it's the same when the horde decides to go after some working class schmuck or a teenager
Sanders supporters do not really identify as progressive usually. It is the neoliberals who support the other candidates usually, they identify as "progressive" because it is the most left wing thing they can imagine in their small minds. Neoliberalism co-opted anti-racism and attempted to integrate that into capitalism to serve the interests of the bourgeois, they cling to this desperately to try to wave their progressive credentials while opposing literally every policy that would do anything to improve the material conditions of the working class.
Capitalism has nearly infinite ability to co-opt and neuter any revolutionary or subcultural movement to serve it's interests. Look what they did to Nelson Mandela, Nelson Mandela was sooooo much cooler than the sanitized neoliberal version of him we were taught in school.
The neoliberals attempt to prove their anti-racist bonafides by hysterically forever trying to shun and shame anyone and everyone who has ever had a single problematic moment in their life. Sanders wisely realizes that these proletariat are a potent force and the basis of any future force he may wish to build among the working class. Whatever problematic views they may have expressed in moments of frustration in the past, he knows he can satisfy them with real material gains. The neoliberals know for a fact that they can't do anything to improve these people's lot in life, they can never win them over, so all they have is hysterical shunning to try and discourage defection from the neoliberal empire.
Neoliberalism: Things are going pretty good right now [1], [2]. Maybe we shouldn't burn the system to the group because you're the first person ever for whom learning a few truths about the real world turns out to be a depressing experience.
LOL. Co-opting causes has been part of the leftist recipe for gaining power since at least Alinsky. It's hardly a day between me seeing posters in town -- almost any town -- saying something like "No war with Iran!" posted by some local socialist group. The events inevitably switch the topic to class consciousness as quickly as possible before explaining how capitalism is the real root problem. I got fooled once or twice in college.
This isn't even just an Alinsky thing. Pick up any copy of Jacobin, find a story about something other than class consciousness/capitalism, and you'll quickly learn how the patriarchy, homophobia, and racism are all really problems caused by capitalism.
really goes to show you that leftoids are more concerned with “punishing” people for wrong think than actually attempting to convert them to their side. The new purity tests consider your entire history. It doesn’t matter the context of what you were talking about or if you’ve now changed your views. Once you utter their version of bad words it’s over. Not to mention how incredibly stupid this behavior is with an election coming up. I mean, shouldn’t the goal be to create more leftists? Even more pressing than that, shouldn’t the short term goal be to convince as many people as possible to vote democrat?
Meanwhile rightoid mayos will hold “blacks for trump” rallies without any actual blacks in a retarded effort to convince people that they actually are converting voters lol
What's funny is if you look at the statistics for those Title IX kangaroo courts, which are of course all run entirely by middle class white feminists, black guys, who only make up like 4% of the college population, account for 50% of the expulsions.
Fun fact, the “11 million combined; 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews” number is a complete fabrication.
The Nazi war effort caused the death of about ~34 million people, combined. But when it comes to specifically the Holocaust, the 11 million number was made up whole cloth by Simon Wiesenthal.
The problem was that, up until the 70s, most Americans didn’t really know about or care about the Holocaust, the same way they still don’t really give a shit about the Holodomor or the Nakba or the Bengal famine or the Great Leap Forward or the Rwandan genocide or the Bosnian genocide or the Armenian genocide or any other 20th century violent atrocity.
But American Jews needed the broader populace to care about the Holocaust for many reasons, including to drum up support for Israel. So Simon Wiesenthal came up with a plan - if Hitler didn’t only target Jews, then he could make up a number of targeted non-Jews high enough that the goyim would be forced to care, but still low enough that people would associate the Holocaust with Jews. He just decided to settle on 5 million. Because of his clout
as a writer and self-styled Nazi hunter, people bought it.
I’m serious, you can look it up. And not on the Daily Stormer or Stormfront or anything, but from actual Holocaust scholars, who are continually frustrated by the perpetuation of the fabricated number.
I think the object level argument that “the Holocaust didn’t happen” is obviously false. It’s one of the most well documented events of modern history, and all of the common denial arguments fall flat on their face with a single second of critical reasoning. There’s very good reason to believe the number of Jews killed was anywhere between 5 and 6 million.
But there are a lot of things about the Holocaust that have been completely made up, like a lot of famous autobiographies, the 11 million number, the roller coasters, the soap made from Jew fat, the Jew skin lampshades and, my personal favorite - the masturbation machines (shout out to the nigga that made that up - hilarious). And it is kind of absurd how it’s illegal to deny that it happened in some European countries.
It’s also a little curious how quickly it became an important and defining event in the entire Western world. Nobody in the US knew or cared in 1945, and now, there are more Americans that know about the Holocaust than know that we dropped 2 nuclear bombs on Japan. Not to say that the Holocaust doesn’t deserve this recognition, but, rather : why isn’t there an equally strong acknowledgment of the other aforementioned tragedies of the 20th century?
Is it a coincidence that 5 out of the 6 largest American media companies are headed / founded by Ashkenazi Jews & the 20th century atrocity event with the most cultural import is the atrocity event that targeted Ashkenazi Jews? Is that a spurious correlation?
On the meta level, I think the argument that “the Jews that disproportionately control the media chiefly bolster their ethnic interests and get away with it because, in a liberal capitalist democracy, the mainstream media decides what is and what isn’t important” has some weight to it.
Not to say that I think, say, Jeff Zucker and the Sulzbergers are deliberately working in some conspiracy to brainwash the American populace into supporting Zionism, believing anti-Semitism is a massive rampant problem in American culture, etc. They might be doing it totally unintentionally and totally without coordination. The same way that many billionaires just to happen to stumble across anarchocapitalist libertarianism (exactly the kind of ideology that would bolster their own class interests), it’s entirely possible that the disproportionate number of Jews in charge of the media just so happen to prioritize putting their own ethnic interests in front of the eyes of the American populace.
In both cases of the Randian billionaire and the Zionist Jewish editor-in-chief, there could be a “happy accident” where the subconscious prioritizes primal tribal self-interests and the conscious thinks it’s acting purely rationally, without any explicit conspiratorial intent or collaboration. But the result is the same as if there were conspiratorial intent - we all believe 11 million died in the Holocaust and there are 100 Holocaust documentaries for every Holodomor documentary.
From the founding of their party the core of the Nazi's ideology was eradication of the jewish race. This goal widely known. And as soon as they had power they did everything to reach that goal.
The holocaust was long planned and completely industrialised. The German jews were extremely well integrated. The only thing these people had done wrong was being born. The killings weren't arbitrarily, nobody was afraid of the Jews, at least of 1.5 million jewish children.
There was no deeper sense behind it, yes people profiteered of it but it was't reason for it. They just wanted kill jews and they did it in the most efficient way they knew. This applies to no other genocide
In eastern europe it's arguable but in Germany they assimilated. They spoke the language, they fought in the wars (lots of the victims were highly decorated veterans of WW1), they were highly patriotic. There was no reliable way to identify someone as jew at the time beyond some common names. A lot of them even converted to Christianity.
You’re right, the Nazis inventing industrial genocide completely explains why the Holocaust had absolutely no presence in broader American culture for a couple of decades and then, all of a sudden, possessed so much import in American culture that, in 1993, twice as many Americans knew about the Holocaust than knew that the USSR was our wartime ally.
No other genocide or mass casualty event deserves even a fraction of the import that the Holocaust has, because none of the deaths of those innocent people were industrial. That’s why.
"The Holocaust Industry" by Norman Finkelstein is pretty good, too.
Both of these people are (or, were, in the case of Novick, who died) accredited, accepted, tenured political scientists and historians. Not that it matters, but both are Ashkenazi Jews.
The fact of the matter is, the Holocaust was famously only reported as a footnote in the New York Times as it was happening, the US gladly denied entry to Jewish refugees and very few people cared, and FDR also infamously didn't pay too much mind to the Nazi death camps or the Nazi's brutality towards the Jews during any of his fireside chats.
It wasn't something that was entirely denied in the broader American consciousness, like the Bengal famine was by Churchill, but it was something that didn't nearly have the import that it did until the 60s and 70s with people like Simon Wiesenthal or Elie Wiesel or the (falsified) Kosinski memoir.
merely made the claim that there is a non-spurious correlation between the disproportionate growth of Jews in American media throughout the late twentieth century (a statistical fact) with the increased presence of the Holocaust in the broader American culture in the late twentieth century (an historical fact)
clearly acknowledged the historicity of the Holocaust and the extent to which it was an horrific, violent atrocity
The funniest part is I am not a Holocaust denier. On the object level, I agree with every mainstream academic Holocaust scholar on the number of Jews killed and the way they were killed.
Towards the end of the war the supply lines were all fucked. The Germans wouldn't want to starve the slaves that supported their war effort. And if they really were death camps we wouldn't get stories like "I over slept and missed out on a death march" or "I was pulled out of line for the gas chamber because I was sick".
Joe Rogan is the archetype of your modern day bro. This is what really bothers people. The bro was supposed to disappear into a bygone era. They didn't want him to evolve into a brogressive ally. He is supposed to be the enemy.
Rogan is the white male moderate who isn't really political but will listen if youre not an ass. People really hate the thought if average, not internet and "theory" obsessed people participating.
He's super left wing and his large right-wing following literally never made a stink about it at all. You get the lefties involved and look at what happens.
Which is ironic because the YouTube comments will raise hell if he has a controversial lefty guest, but it's not like it ever makes the news or anything. His viewer base is majority right wing, it's easy to tell. Just look at the Adam Conover episode, and Adam is someone lefties worship.
You don't get it. His priveledge give him the luxury of listening to dangerous ideas, because in the end those dangerous ideas aren't going to personally affect him.
At least he's self-aware. He said that he is literally an idiot and if you're listening to him to form your political opinions, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Once they bow to the Rogan, the bros will control both the right and the left and we will be pushed forward into a world of sick gains and partying hard.
/r/politics is boomer lib neoliberal hysteria 101. The sort of leftism that was cultivated in reaction to Trump's victory, that ignores the material interests of the working class and simply tries to shun them into silence to discourage defection from the imperial neoliberal politics, is utterly ridiculous and ineffective. It is a neutered form of leftism encouraged by the CIA and State Department and the deep state and MSM, because they know it doesn't threaten their globalist imperial interests.
They do not seek to improve the lot in life of minorities, they seek to use them as their shield while they continue to bash the white working class into dust, they encourage division among the two sides who's material interests should logically unite themselves as a force, because division among the lower classes is to the benefit of the CIA leftists in their comfy upper class urban gentrified luxury. This strain of CIA leftism is most typified by /r/AgainstHateSubreddits/ and similar garbage subs, but of course it dominate on /r/Politics as well. /r/Politics just being a clueless amalgamation of vaguely center left normies who clinged to this form neutered leftism because they were shocked into hysteria by the defeat in 2016, and can't understand the game that is being played against them.
Joe Rogan's semi-endorsement is literally probably one of the biggest reasons that Sanders is currently ahead in Iowa. A lot of these people are Warren stans and such though, again, they use minorities and feminism as a wedge issue, they do not have any policies that could ever actually benefit the material interests of these classes. All they can think of is to offer them affirmative action, to train new loyal enforcers of the neoliberal empire but with the authority of brown skin this time, who will 100% of the time in the end betray the material interests of their own people because they have been totally separated from them by the neoliberal brainwashing they received at university. Obama was literally the greatest success imaginable for this program.
Iowan here. MMA isn't big here. Most people have no idea who Rogan is other than "that fear factor guy."
Sanders support here is because they are fucking relentless with the door hangers, canvassers, mailers and political ads. Literally every 3rd commercial is a Sanders commercial. Every facebook feed has a Sanders ad in it. Every day I get more sanders spam stuffed in my mailbox. Goes straight to the trash with all the other political bullshit.
It's incredibly annoying. Wednesday will come and everyone will go back to forgetting Iowa even exists. For you political folks that think you want to have the first caucus in the nation, you can have it.
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14 tcpip4lyfe 2020-02-02
His "transphobia" is because of this:
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/05/01/transgender-weightlifter-mary-gregory-smashes-womens-world-records/23720231/
Turns out biology exists and men and women aren't physically equal.
7 Burnnoticelover 2020-02-02
I always wanted to start a podcast called “The No Rogan Experience”, where the only rule is you can’t talk about Joe Rogan.
5 AlexJones_GayFrog 2020-02-02
"So uh, who's you favorite middle aged pothead MMA wannabe?'
3 Burnnoticelover 2020-02-02
My middle school friend's older brother.
7 wohSdooGAstI 2020-02-02
They really just don't get why no one likes them and they keep losing in every country, do they? Just wish Leafland didn't buy into this shit en masse
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6 suddenvandamm 2020-02-02
"I am now and adult since 2 years and I will start believing people randomly I see a youtube without critical thought!"
What is wrong with burgers?
3 FUCKYOURITALIN 2020-02-02
i went through a conspiracy phase when i was like 12 but i was also on a lot of ritalin and borderline retarded
5 suddenvandamm 2020-02-02
Sure I could kinda understand that but how is it that people go through conspiracy theories 5 years after they were allowed to get a driver license?
It proves more that the land of the free is the land of the free to be retarded.
2 Burnnoticelover 2020-02-02
I grew out of it about halfway through high school, but I still maintain that D.B. Cooper is Kenny Christiansen.
2 TheColdTurtle 2020-02-02
Are you implying you are not retarded now?
2 FUCKYOURITALIN 2020-02-02
no, now i’m on adderall and borderline retarded
4 srsh10392 2020-02-02
Leftoid: Ummmm, ackrually you can only not be involved in politics because you're a cishet white male, check your privilege sweaty-
gets sucker punched by Rogan
6 XannyPacquiao69420 2020-02-02
Wow epic!
6 Ingelri 2020-02-02
Ok, this is epic.
4 WholesomeDrama 2020-02-02
we should have a roleplaying day where every drama comment has to be a shitty italics story
3 BlooCheckmark 2020-02-02
Did they open the sub already?
4 mrmarfanman 2020-02-02
NOOOO YOU CANT DO YOUR PODCAST WITH YOUR LIFELONG FRIENDS NOOO THEYLL SHARE DANGEROUS UNSUBSTANTIATED CONSPIRACY THEORIES NOOOO YOU HAVE TO TELL YOUR CLOSE FRIEND OF TWO DECADES YOU CANT HANG OUT ANYMORE BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IN FLAT EARTH NOOOO
3 32624647 2020-02-02
Exhibit 163.236 on why people who browse the default subs should never be allowed near a ballot
2 Al_Simmons 2020-02-02
Joe Rogan just had Daryl Davis on. Anyone that calls Joe Rogan a right winger is literally a moron that should be ignored and deported to Yemen.
3 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
I unironically respect the hell out of that dude
3 y________tho 2020-02-02
I once saw someone bring Daryl Davis up in an argument with B--df--n, in an attempt to convince them that engaging with your political opponents is more productive than playing a retarded game of whack-a-mole deplatforming. B--df--n's response was "What Davis does isn't effective because we can't be sure those neo-nazis didn't revert back to their old ways afterwards".
I was seething at that. Daryl Davis is a saint.
3 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
The really ironic part is that deplatforming doesn't make nazis disappear. It sends them deeper into echo chambers. It makes them worse. I've watched it happen over and over again. Just look at Voat.
We know that deplatforming doesn't work and that engagement does but engaging is so much more work and doesn't let me bully people, you know?
2 y________tho 2020-02-02
I think it ultimately comes down to the fact that a lot of people who insist on deplatforming just aren't very good at talking to people - they can't get inside their opponent's heads and can't figure out what makes them tick. I've had them unironically tell me it's no use arguing with Shapiro-types because "they'll use rhetorical tricks to confuse you and win the argument", but they can't see that this isn't a reason to deplatform them - it's a reason for you to up your conversational game.
But yeah, god forbid you put some effort into this cause that apparently defines who you are as a person. God forbid you'd be surprised when weird smells start coming out from that rug you've pushed everything under.
1 Ingelri 2020-02-02
sneed
1 fbcc1233 2020-02-02
Pretty sure those Klan guys are using him for marketing.
1 FrostyBlowmanSnowman 2020-02-02
Joe lives in the most liberal city, in the most liberal state, and is a public figure. He could be right wing, we'll just never know until he retires because he is in cancel culture central. He's not dumb.
He appeals to both sides, but keeps it vague at most times. He'll sing a slightly different tune for each guest.
If it's a conservative guest, he's center. If it's a liberal guest, he's center-left.
2 KingRuler07 2020-02-02
Joe wants crazy Bernie to win so that crooked Hillary will endorse tiny Trump as President.
1 SnapshillBot 2020-02-02
How does it feel to be a filthy bedouin who belongs to a lineage and culture which has never actually accomplished anything for itself? The only remarkable traits of your people are that they sit atop oil which white people pay you for and that you are dishonest and relatively dim witted. If western leaders weren't a bunch of jew addled traitors they would have wiped your people off the face of the earth and simply taken your oil rather than paid your retarded royalty a single cent.
Now we have a scenario in which a bunch of dune coons run around playing 21st century warlord with weaponry their stupid people couldn't possibly invent and shitting up life on earth for everybody. We never should have sold you so much as a Lamborghini let alone a fucking autocannon. Handing you sand niggers modern weaponry is like handing a small child a hand grenade.
If your people were worth their weight in salt they would turn their own lands into a place fit for human beings. Since they aren't able to, they flee to our lands and proceed to breed like rats while feeding their children with fraudulently earned income and welfare paid for by white people. You and your ilk will eventually outnumber us in our homes and our lands will become as shitty and useless as your lands. Cograts, you'll achieve dar es salaam but you won't have running water or a functioning power grid. You played yourself.
Shameful behavior from a deceitful desert tribe. Yet you feel pride. So strange.
Begone, rat.
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10 200iqBigBrain 2020-02-02
The standard deflection is "cancel culture doesn't exist because people got mad at this multi-millionaire celebrity and nothing happened!" as if it's the same when the horde decides to go after some working class schmuck or a teenager
2 Woolgun 2020-02-02
In what way was Joe Rogan cancelled tho?
3 Kaiser-romulus 2020-02-02
Cause I said so
1 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
Hugely influential leftoid podcaster with millions of listeners from across the political spectrum endorses the progressive candidate for president
Progressives: fuck you Nazi!!!!!1!!
I'm really hoping the_reason_trump_won shows up for this thread
6 watermark1917 2020-02-02
Sanders supporters do not really identify as progressive usually. It is the neoliberals who support the other candidates usually, they identify as "progressive" because it is the most left wing thing they can imagine in their small minds. Neoliberalism co-opted anti-racism and attempted to integrate that into capitalism to serve the interests of the bourgeois, they cling to this desperately to try to wave their progressive credentials while opposing literally every policy that would do anything to improve the material conditions of the working class.
Capitalism has nearly infinite ability to co-opt and neuter any revolutionary or subcultural movement to serve it's interests. Look what they did to Nelson Mandela, Nelson Mandela was sooooo much cooler than the sanitized neoliberal version of him we were taught in school.
The neoliberals attempt to prove their anti-racist bonafides by hysterically forever trying to shun and shame anyone and everyone who has ever had a single problematic moment in their life. Sanders wisely realizes that these proletariat are a potent force and the basis of any future force he may wish to build among the working class. Whatever problematic views they may have expressed in moments of frustration in the past, he knows he can satisfy them with real material gains. The neoliberals know for a fact that they can't do anything to improve these people's lot in life, they can never win them over, so all they have is hysterical shunning to try and discourage defection from the neoliberal empire.
19 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
Yep, it's watermark time
8 hobocactus2 2020-02-02
But it's not absolute drivel, for once. This is basically the /r/stupidpol manifesto
11 IHeartCommyMommy 2020-02-02
Define Neoliberalism please
4 ironicshitpostr 2020-02-02
Not hating the global poor, and the less you hate the global poor the more neoliberalist it is
9 Wraith_GraveSpell 2020-02-02
They love the global poor cause it's cheap labor.
6 IHeartCommyMommy 2020-02-02
This but unironically. The best way to help the global poor is to tell them to open their markets or get droned
1 karlhungusjr 2020-02-02
reaganomics
1 KittehDragoon 2020-02-02
Neoliberalism: Things are going pretty good right now [1], [2]. Maybe we shouldn't burn the system to the group because you're the first person ever for whom learning a few truths about the real world turns out to be a depressing experience.
[1] https://ourworldindata.org/human-development-index
[2] The apparent case of syphilis the US Government appears to have developed lately notwithstanding
8 ISO-8859-1 2020-02-02
LOL. Co-opting causes has been part of the leftist recipe for gaining power since at least Alinsky. It's hardly a day between me seeing posters in town -- almost any town -- saying something like "No war with Iran!" posted by some local socialist group. The events inevitably switch the topic to class consciousness as quickly as possible before explaining how capitalism is the real root problem. I got fooled once or twice in college.
This isn't even just an Alinsky thing. Pick up any copy of Jacobin, find a story about something other than class consciousness/capitalism, and you'll quickly learn how the patriarchy, homophobia, and racism are all really problems caused by capitalism.
3 R0saParkinsons 2020-02-02
Yawn.
3 rev984 2020-02-02
really goes to show you that leftoids are more concerned with “punishing” people for wrong think than actually attempting to convert them to their side. The new purity tests consider your entire history. It doesn’t matter the context of what you were talking about or if you’ve now changed your views. Once you utter their version of bad words it’s over. Not to mention how incredibly stupid this behavior is with an election coming up. I mean, shouldn’t the goal be to create more leftists? Even more pressing than that, shouldn’t the short term goal be to convince as many people as possible to vote democrat?
Meanwhile rightoid mayos will hold “blacks for trump” rallies without any actual blacks in a retarded effort to convince people that they actually are converting voters lol
2 Seattle_Bussy_Lmao 2020-02-02
It’s Sunday, he’s golfing
4 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2020-02-02
🤢🤮
1 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
I made this post just for you
1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2020-02-02
Lol I didn't notice it till like an hour ago sry bby
1 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
It's okay I still love you 😘
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1 Kaiser-romulus 2020-02-02
Like Rogan always supports lefty policies but has friends from all over the spectrum so he’s canceled.
13 watermark1917 2020-02-02
Joe Rogan doesn't really believe in anything besides getting high and saying "Woah that's so cool" to the people he's talking to on his podcast.
16 FUCKYOURITALIN 2020-02-02
true centrism
15 Mayos_side 2020-02-02
Is there anything else involved with being a Democrat?
19 SwiftOnSobriety 2020-02-02
Forced reeducation of the lower classes to ensure they don't express any opinions that middle class white women might find distasteful.
7 Harambeeb 2020-02-02
You struck the nail into the center of the earth.
6 VidiotGamer 2020-02-02
What's funny is if you look at the statistics for those Title IX kangaroo courts, which are of course all run entirely by middle class white feminists, black guys, who only make up like 4% of the college population, account for 50% of the expulsions.
Really makes you think 🤔🤔🤔
3 KittehDragoon 2020-02-02
Note that just isn't true.
He also believes meats are the best foods, martial arts are the best sports, and that it isn't a real 911 unless it has a stickshift manual.
1 whenweriiide 2020-02-02
And there's nothing wrong with that
1 Lolbertians 2020-02-02
Wrong he believes in people eating meat
5 pol__invictus__risen 2020-02-02
He doesn't think people he disagrees with are monsters.
He's a monster!
1 KittehDragoon 2020-02-02
I'm watching a trainwreak in slow motion in slow motion and I dont like it.
Pete could hace been so good for America.
1 InTheCongoWithaBongo 2020-02-02
Every time, without fail.
1 y________tho 2020-02-02
It's their version of "the holocaust didn't happen, but I wish it would".
-9 ofthewhite 2020-02-02
The holocaust didn't happen though. The Jews needed people to be overwhelmingly sympathetic so they could re-establish Israel.
13 zoldknight 2020-02-02
Don't make me get the fly swatter out, dork.
7 AIDS_IS_A_CHOICE 2020-02-02
Good job using a safe insult, you wouldn't want to hurt someone's feelings.
3 dankius_memeius 2020-02-02
Using safe insults like dork, dolt, dunce are the most effective tbh, they make internet losers seethe
3 SmurfPolitics 2020-02-02
Stfu nigger
6 SmurfPolitics 2020-02-02
I mean... I guess
5 ProEvilOperations 2020-02-02
You idiot the Holocaust happened but it was actually 20 million Jews and they downplayed it to 6 million because
4 mrmarfanman 2020-02-02
Fun fact, the “11 million combined; 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews” number is a complete fabrication.
The Nazi war effort caused the death of about ~34 million people, combined. But when it comes to specifically the Holocaust, the 11 million number was made up whole cloth by Simon Wiesenthal.
The problem was that, up until the 70s, most Americans didn’t really know about or care about the Holocaust, the same way they still don’t really give a shit about the Holodomor or the Nakba or the Bengal famine or the Great Leap Forward or the Rwandan genocide or the Bosnian genocide or the Armenian genocide or any other 20th century violent atrocity.
But American Jews needed the broader populace to care about the Holocaust for many reasons, including to drum up support for Israel. So Simon Wiesenthal came up with a plan - if Hitler didn’t only target Jews, then he could make up a number of targeted non-Jews high enough that the goyim would be forced to care, but still low enough that people would associate the Holocaust with Jews. He just decided to settle on 5 million. Because of his clout as a writer and self-styled Nazi hunter, people bought it.
I’m serious, you can look it up. And not on the Daily Stormer or Stormfront or anything, but from actual Holocaust scholars, who are continually frustrated by the perpetuation of the fabricated number.
I think the object level argument that “the Holocaust didn’t happen” is obviously false. It’s one of the most well documented events of modern history, and all of the common denial arguments fall flat on their face with a single second of critical reasoning. There’s very good reason to believe the number of Jews killed was anywhere between 5 and 6 million.
But there are a lot of things about the Holocaust that have been completely made up, like a lot of famous autobiographies, the 11 million number, the roller coasters, the soap made from Jew fat, the Jew skin lampshades and, my personal favorite - the masturbation machines (shout out to the nigga that made that up - hilarious). And it is kind of absurd how it’s illegal to deny that it happened in some European countries.
It’s also a little curious how quickly it became an important and defining event in the entire Western world. Nobody in the US knew or cared in 1945, and now, there are more Americans that know about the Holocaust than know that we dropped 2 nuclear bombs on Japan. Not to say that the Holocaust doesn’t deserve this recognition, but, rather : why isn’t there an equally strong acknowledgment of the other aforementioned tragedies of the 20th century?
Is it a coincidence that 5 out of the 6 largest American media companies are headed / founded by Ashkenazi Jews & the 20th century atrocity event with the most cultural import is the atrocity event that targeted Ashkenazi Jews? Is that a spurious correlation?
On the meta level, I think the argument that “the Jews that disproportionately control the media chiefly bolster their ethnic interests and get away with it because, in a liberal capitalist democracy, the mainstream media decides what is and what isn’t important” has some weight to it.
Not to say that I think, say, Jeff Zucker and the Sulzbergers are deliberately working in some conspiracy to brainwash the American populace into supporting Zionism, believing anti-Semitism is a massive rampant problem in American culture, etc. They might be doing it totally unintentionally and totally without coordination. The same way that many billionaires just to happen to stumble across anarchocapitalist libertarianism (exactly the kind of ideology that would bolster their own class interests), it’s entirely possible that the disproportionate number of Jews in charge of the media just so happen to prioritize putting their own ethnic interests in front of the eyes of the American populace.
In both cases of the Randian billionaire and the Zionist Jewish editor-in-chief, there could be a “happy accident” where the subconscious prioritizes primal tribal self-interests and the conscious thinks it’s acting purely rationally, without any explicit conspiratorial intent or collaboration. But the result is the same as if there were conspiratorial intent - we all believe 11 million died in the Holocaust and there are 100 Holocaust documentaries for every Holodomor documentary.
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4 SmurfPolitics 2020-02-02
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2 Nick_1701 2020-02-02
The holocaust has several unique aspects.
From the founding of their party the core of the Nazi's ideology was eradication of the jewish race. This goal widely known. And as soon as they had power they did everything to reach that goal.
The holocaust was long planned and completely industrialised. The German jews were extremely well integrated. The only thing these people had done wrong was being born. The killings weren't arbitrarily, nobody was afraid of the Jews, at least of 1.5 million jewish children.
There was no deeper sense behind it, yes people profiteered of it but it was't reason for it. They just wanted kill jews and they did it in the most efficient way they knew. This applies to no other genocide
3 Qualtoth 2020-02-02
I wouldn't say they were well integrated honestly.
2 Nick_1701 2020-02-02
In eastern europe it's arguable but in Germany they assimilated. They spoke the language, they fought in the wars (lots of the victims were highly decorated veterans of WW1), they were highly patriotic. There was no reliable way to identify someone as jew at the time beyond some common names. A lot of them even converted to Christianity.
2 mrmarfanman 2020-02-02
2 Nick_1701 2020-02-02
the nazis invented the industrial genocide
2 mrmarfanman 2020-02-02
You’re right, the Nazis inventing industrial genocide completely explains why the Holocaust had absolutely no presence in broader American culture for a couple of decades and then, all of a sudden, possessed so much import in American culture that, in 1993, twice as many Americans knew about the Holocaust than knew that the USSR was our wartime ally.
No other genocide or mass casualty event deserves even a fraction of the import that the Holocaust has, because none of the deaths of those innocent people were industrial. That’s why.
0 karlhungusjr 2020-02-02
where do you goose steppers come up with this shit?
1 mrmarfanman 2020-02-02
Read "The Holocaust in American Life" by Peter Novick.
Here's a good starter : http://movies2.nytimes.com/books/first/n/novick-holocaust.html
"The Holocaust Industry" by Norman Finkelstein is pretty good, too.
Both of these people are (or, were, in the case of Novick, who died) accredited, accepted, tenured political scientists and historians. Not that it matters, but both are Ashkenazi Jews.
The fact of the matter is, the Holocaust was famously only reported as a footnote in the New York Times as it was happening, the US gladly denied entry to Jewish refugees and very few people cared, and FDR also infamously didn't pay too much mind to the Nazi death camps or the Nazi's brutality towards the Jews during any of his fireside chats.
It wasn't something that was entirely denied in the broader American consciousness, like the Bengal famine was by Churchill, but it was something that didn't nearly have the import that it did until the 60s and 70s with people like Simon Wiesenthal or Elie Wiesel or the (falsified) Kosinski memoir.
Eat shit, faggot.
1 karlhungusjr 2020-02-02
fuck off nazi.
1 mrmarfanman 2020-02-02
Are you a Zionist, or just retarded?
1 karlhungusjr 2020-02-02
fuck off nazi
1 mrmarfanman 2020-02-02
Okay, I'm sorry.
1 karlhungusjr 2020-02-02
fuck off nazi
1 ProEvilOperations 2020-02-02
Bruh this is a radical centrist sub. It's fine to deny the Holocaust but at least also deny the Holodomor and the Rwandan Genocide.
5 mrmarfanman 2020-02-02
The funniest part is I am not a Holocaust denier. On the object level, I agree with every mainstream academic Holocaust scholar on the number of Jews killed and the way they were killed.
8 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
Sir this is r drama
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4 SmurfPolitics 2020-02-02
The person above me is an anti Semite, everybody knows it was 60 million Jews
3 TheColdTurtle 2020-02-02
Dont downvote the lolcow
2 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
I read somewhere that they mostly starved. Is that correct?
1 ofthewhite 2020-02-02
Towards the end of the war the supply lines were all fucked. The Germans wouldn't want to starve the slaves that supported their war effort. And if they really were death camps we wouldn't get stories like "I over slept and missed out on a death march" or "I was pulled out of line for the gas chamber because I was sick".
1 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
Shut up retard. Deported
1 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
Shut up retard
1 Zozbot 2020-02-02
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1 Zozbot 2020-02-02
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1 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
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1 cochnbahls 2020-02-02
Joe Rogan is the archetype of your modern day bro. This is what really bothers people. The bro was supposed to disappear into a bygone era. They didn't want him to evolve into a brogressive ally. He is supposed to be the enemy.
25 Peytons_5head 2020-02-02
Rogan is the white male moderate who isn't really political but will listen if youre not an ass. People really hate the thought if average, not internet and "theory" obsessed people participating.
12 Fletch71011 2020-02-02
He's super left-wing. He's not moderate at all. UBI is like his favorite thing. He will just listen to anyone from Hitler to Stalin.
23 200iqBigBrain 2020-02-02
He hates the idea of puberty blockers or trans women beating the shit out of female boxers though which means he's a nazi
13 JaromeDome 2020-02-02
He's super left wing and his large right-wing following literally never made a stink about it at all. You get the lefties involved and look at what happens.
2 FrostyBlowmanSnowman 2020-02-02
Which is ironic because the YouTube comments will raise hell if he has a controversial lefty guest, but it's not like it ever makes the news or anything. His viewer base is majority right wing, it's easy to tell. Just look at the Adam Conover episode, and Adam is someone lefties worship.
10 cochnbahls 2020-02-02
You don't get it. His priveledge give him the luxury of listening to dangerous ideas, because in the end those dangerous ideas aren't going to personally affect him.
/s
24 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
No
9 TheColdTurtle 2020-02-02
Did you ban him?
7 The_Reason_Pete_Wins 2020-02-02
Yes
7 TheColdTurtle 2020-02-02
Fucking based
3 Peytons_5head 2020-02-02
Theyre basically the same tbh
1 The_Gatefather 2020-02-02
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10 Fletch71011 2020-02-02
At least he's self-aware. He said that he is literally an idiot and if you're listening to him to form your political opinions, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Redditors could learn something from him.
15 AlexJones_GayFrog 2020-02-02
Joe Rogan is smarter than most redditors and I mean that with full sincerity.
3 dogDroolsCatsRules 2020-02-02
That still very insulting to redditors.
And that's a good thing.
2 MoistLanguage 2020-02-02
Also much much more physically fit and with a sense of humor.
3 AlexJones_GayFrog 2020-02-02
The bar is so low for all of these that this isn't particularly high praise for Joe Rogan
10 cfbWORKING 2020-02-02
He is also seemingly self made and proof hard work can take you a long way, basically the American dream.
Can’t have that.
I’ve probably only listened to 3 JRE episodes. So it’s not like I am a huge fan of his
9 loli_esports 2020-02-02
Once they bow to the Rogan, the bros will control both the right and the left and we will be pushed forward into a world of sick gains and partying hard.
2 watermark1917 2020-02-02
The liberals say ewwww, ewwww! I say, yes, yes.
1 Neon_needles 2020-02-02
🤔
Literally the next post down is people saying cancel culture isnt real and that the left cares more about civil discussion lol
4 watermark1917 2020-02-02
/r/politics is boomer lib neoliberal hysteria 101. The sort of leftism that was cultivated in reaction to Trump's victory, that ignores the material interests of the working class and simply tries to shun them into silence to discourage defection from the imperial neoliberal politics, is utterly ridiculous and ineffective. It is a neutered form of leftism encouraged by the CIA and State Department and the deep state and MSM, because they know it doesn't threaten their globalist imperial interests.
They do not seek to improve the lot in life of minorities, they seek to use them as their shield while they continue to bash the white working class into dust, they encourage division among the two sides who's material interests should logically unite themselves as a force, because division among the lower classes is to the benefit of the CIA leftists in their comfy upper class urban gentrified luxury. This strain of CIA leftism is most typified by /r/AgainstHateSubreddits/ and similar garbage subs, but of course it dominate on /r/Politics as well. /r/Politics just being a clueless amalgamation of vaguely center left normies who clinged to this form neutered leftism because they were shocked into hysteria by the defeat in 2016, and can't understand the game that is being played against them.
14 HeyItsYourBoyDaniel 2020-02-02
Your pulitzer is in the mail
12 CommissarCletus 2020-02-02
*You’re
1 LuxSolisPax 2020-02-02
How does someone, not Pulitzer, be Pulitzer?
1 CommissarCletus 2020-02-02
*How
7 Peytons_5head 2020-02-02
Politics was retarded way before trump
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1 boyoyoyoyong 2020-02-02
Liberalism is a mental illness proof 1,892,556,002
4 watermark1917 2020-02-02
Liberalism is a mental illness, yes.
1 heeehaaw 2020-02-02
whats wrong with these people? he probably got more votes to their party then those people combined.
5 cfbWORKING 2020-02-02
They’d prefer to lose and play victim forever than actually put their theory into practice knowing its likely to fail
2 watermark1917 2020-02-02
Joe Rogan's semi-endorsement is literally probably one of the biggest reasons that Sanders is currently ahead in Iowa. A lot of these people are Warren stans and such though, again, they use minorities and feminism as a wedge issue, they do not have any policies that could ever actually benefit the material interests of these classes. All they can think of is to offer them affirmative action, to train new loyal enforcers of the neoliberal empire but with the authority of brown skin this time, who will 100% of the time in the end betray the material interests of their own people because they have been totally separated from them by the neoliberal brainwashing they received at university. Obama was literally the greatest success imaginable for this program.
4 tcpip4lyfe 2020-02-02
Iowan here. MMA isn't big here. Most people have no idea who Rogan is other than "that fear factor guy."
Sanders support here is because they are fucking relentless with the door hangers, canvassers, mailers and political ads. Literally every 3rd commercial is a Sanders commercial. Every facebook feed has a Sanders ad in it. Every day I get more sanders spam stuffed in my mailbox. Goes straight to the trash with all the other political bullshit.
It's incredibly annoying. Wednesday will come and everyone will go back to forgetting Iowa even exists. For you political folks that think you want to have the first caucus in the nation, you can have it.
13 ExtremelyOnlineG 2020-02-02
As they should.
6 tcpip4lyfe 2020-02-02
Yep it's terrible. Never come here. Tell all your friends to never come here either. We literally drive tractors to work.
1 ExtremelyOnlineG 2020-02-02
Imagine thinking I'd need to tell my friends not to go to buttfuck.
Should I also tell them not to go to Somalia?
1 tcpip4lyfe 2020-02-02
I'll dry my tears with the leftovers from my $500 mortgage.
1 ExtremelyOnlineG 2020-02-02
TIL it's cheap to live in a shithole. I guess your house price is a function of the demand for your area...
only pussies are afraid of the homeless and I don't live in an area with gun violence
Are these the things you say to console yourself as you stare out at the bleak fields of potatoes and meth heads?
1 tcpip4lyfe 2020-02-02
Tldr
1 ExtremelyOnlineG 2020-02-02
TLDR: you're mad that you live in an empty field that nobody wants
3 dogDroolsCatsRules 2020-02-02
If things were right people wouldn't ever remember iowa exist tho.
1 ExtremelyOnlineG 2020-02-02
This is true
1 ExtremelyOnlineG 2020-02-02
Well. you got your wish.
We aint forgettin about Iowa yet...
1 loli_esports 2020-02-02
of course he did, these people only get people to stop voting dem or stop voting at all
1 realwhoopiegoldberg3 2020-02-02
This!
1 kermit_was_wrong 2020-02-02
Why would anyone give a shit what Rohan has to say about politics?