Roaches mad

1  2020-02-20 by _Reason_Bernie_Lost

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Atatürk always inspires such seethe sadly not much of his drama is posted here.

Most normal beer drinking roaches will go full "didn't happen but they deserved it" because he's literally their Kang. A vocal minority of Turks who love Erdo hate him for destroying the caliphate. Non turk Muslims hate him too, especially Pakis.

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I hope that this is the end. r/Drama has a unique way of bringing out the worst in people. It really does, I think. The dynamic here is just so fucking toxic and it turns people into the worst possible people they can be.

Drama is an addiction. It should be classified as something more like heroine or meth than a game.

The legacy of Drama has been written large in blood, quite literally. Several Drama posters have committed mayocide, and this place enabled their downward spirals. u/DarqWolff's insanity was made far worse by this place. I've come to the conclusion that the internet, as a social platform, was a mistake.

It radicalizes people by isolating them with other people just like them and so they spiral into the worst versions of themselves. Drama made me a worse person, and it's made most of you worse people. It's been the breeding ground of pedophile groomers, alt-right killers, and suicidal narcissists. This place is a total fucking shithole and I spent three years of my life that I'll never get back immersed in it. It was a total waste and I'm going to regret this period of my life for the rest of my existence as will most of you.

Even the most moral people have been made worse for being here. I think that the fundamental issue with Drama is that due to the way reputations work, betrayal, secret cabals, two-faced bs, and bad faith negotiation isn't just prioritized, it's the only effective way to operate. Being a huge piece of shit to everybody around you and tearing them down like crabs in a bucket isn't just a viable strategy, it's actually the only viable strategy once Drama reached a certain size. It's all just a bunch of assholes circlejerking over how bad all the other assholes are, because it's impossible to do anything else short of outright genociding anybody who poses any sort of threat to Drama's security and dominance.

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Ataturk wasn't even in the cadre involved in the Armenian genocide, it was mostly Enver, Talat and Talat pashas. I don't know why he's even mentioned tbh.

However Ataturk drama is good drama. Between 2004-2012 there was a whole lot of Ataturk and Kemalism criticisim coming from secular liberal crew alongside with conservatives, which caused an immense seething but it died down when Erdogan began showing his true power and intentions, now everyone is focused on Erdogan.

At this point I don't even know what to think about Ataturk and mostly I don't think about him at all.

However Ataturk drama is good drama.

Where can I get pro ottoman Atatürk hate? I know he also gets stick for being one of (((them)))

I know some in r/Islam call him Atashirk but that's all I have apart from one user/troll who hates him.

I don't follow Turkish subreddits except for r/Turkey, so idk. Also pro-ottomans usually don't know English and the ones who do usually don't use Reddit, so it'll be very hard to find 'em on Reddit, tho I'm sure you can find some in Muslim forums.

On a side note, my father is one of the pro-Ottoman conservatives and he doesn't like Atatürk at all. I don't discuss politics with my family but my cousin is an atheist and loves Ataturk, when he comes around they have very heated debates.

Damn I guess I'll have to make do with Greeks and Turks squabbling on r/Europe.

tho I'm sure you can find some in Muslim forums.

I tried. Just a bunch of Pakis LARPing mostly.

On a side note, my father is one of the pro-Ottoman conservatives and he doesn't like Atatürk at all.

I'm actually surprised at how much Turks of all ages love him. You people took the loss of your imperial status rather well.

I'm actually surprised at how much Turks of all ages love him. You people took the loss of your imperial status rather well.

It's pretty normal if you're familiar with our history. We were already losing our imperial status by the end of the 19th century due to various reasons, it was inevitable. Ataturk not only managed to save most of our lands (compare the Treaty of Sevres & Treaty of Lausanne) despite our defeat in WWI, he also lead a pretty robust modernization and secularization. It's very hard to deny his leading role in Turkey's (re)birth, hence the name: Ata-Turk, literally the Father of the Turks.

I've read a bit, mainly how there were nations that wanted the status quo and nations that didn't. Recently finished a book on Lord Salisbury.

I think unlike Colonial Europe it wasn't as sudden, you were prepared.

I know what his name means, the ones who dislike him will call him Mustafa Kemal etc.

You come across any anti Atatürk drama please post or PM me.

Where can one read up more on Roach lore

try your friendly neighborhood Orkin man

Non turk Muslims hate him too, especially Pakis

If Pakistan had even one leader that was on the level of Ataturk they wouldn't be in a shit hole contest with India right now.

Istanbul is cool, kebab ftw

lots of dudes with hair transplants tho

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