[effort post] Student wants to drop foreign MD school to apply to US DO schools in his final year. Turns out he was mentally ill and schizo-posting on Dr. forums.
1 2020-02-24 by throwaway_at_
Kind of sad really.
Initially he posts a thread on student doctor network detailing how he attends a medical school in Asia, but is now upset that itβs basically worthless and wants to go to a US DO program (basically MD, but they also have to do chiropractic shit).
People are giving him the best advice they can, but the cold hard truth is cold, including pieces of advice like this hot take:
I can't sugar coat this, I wouldn't waste a seat on someone who has made such poor life choices.
He seems to continue his delusions of thinking heβd actually get into these crazy competitive programs, but it turns out all along that he was schizo when this is posted from his profile:
****This the is the brother of the original poster writing now. My brother was a student at U Cincinnati med and top of his class. Unfortunately, he fell ill with bipolar + psychosis. He is now at home for several years under our parents care. Often, during his episodes he pretends he is still a medical student. He uses VPNs, multiple email accounts, and other tactics to troll forums. In fact, he will often write and respond to his own threads. I am changing the password to his account now so he can't cause any more mischief. Please, on behalf of our family don't hold this against all mentally ill people. I will speak to his therapist about this behaviour. Thank you.
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2 strongestpotions 2020-02-24
I'm so fucking triggered rn
1 chad_thunderclock 2020-02-24
Lol DOs mostly donβt do chiropractic shit anymore iirc. They abandoned that. They do tend to have a more holistic and integrative approach. Lot of them go into family practice of some kind
1 strongestpotions 2020-02-24
Yes we do and it fucking blows
I'm paying $100k a year to listen to some asshole tell me how he feels the motion of the cranial bones ffs
1 chad_thunderclock 2020-02-24
Really? My doctor is a DO and I asked him if he learned any of that stuff and he was like, They stopped teaching that in the 80s.
2 strongestpotions 2020-02-24
It's on the DO boards and it's tested really goddamned heavily. Your doc is prob referring to residency and on tho because absolutely nobody buys this shit anymore not even the DO students
1 medkaczynski 2020-02-24
Damn it feels good to be an MD student π
1 strongestpotions 2020-02-24
yeah but we're H O L I S T I C
averageredditor af but i got a solid chuckle out of that username
1 throwaway_at_ 2020-02-24
Lmao that OMM shit must suck but at least youβre good at popping backs and yOU kNoW AnaTomY BetTer tHan mOSt MDβs. Honesty COCA should get rid of that and it will make DO 2x more desirable.
1 strongestpotions 2020-02-24
Tbh they won't because toxically white women believe in this kind of woo bullshit
Not even good at popping backs because literally everybody just crams it the night before
1 throwaway_at_ 2020-02-24
Sad! Iβm MS1 and my brother is OM1 so he vents about that stuff to me.
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1 CasperTheBandit 2020-02-24
Foreign medical schools rarely lead to success in America, right? I remember my buddy was considering one in Poland but decided staying in America was the smarter choice
4 HodorLePortePorte 2020-02-24
Yeah there's a reason why the United States has the very best medical doctors in the world
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1 assface0 2020-02-24
what i heard Germany has the best medical school education in the world
1 DeadlyRNG 2020-02-24
It's because Doctors have to go to school in the US for 12 years before they are an actual doctor. I remember watching a documentary from the UK and there was an orthopedic surgeon who was 23 years old, in the US they wont even let you touch someones teeth if you don't have at least 8 years of schooling under your belt and even then you are going to be a resident / fellow / whatever the fuck for the next 4 years till you are fully qualified. On the flip side if you are a good doctor from another country they usually end up coming to america if for the sole reason of them being paid 300,000+ dollars a year compared to in many other countries even surgeons max out at about 125k.
0 watermark1917 2020-02-24
Lmao they do jack shit for the people, fuck them
3 HodorLePortePorte 2020-02-24
Doctors donβt do anything for people?
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1 ShitTornadoToOz 2020-02-24
Who downvotes watermark? Honestly.
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1 HeresCyonnah 2020-02-24
Just because they couldn't cure your retardation, doesn't mean they don't do anything.
1 zergling_Lester 2020-02-24
They do tons of abortions, two thirds of them for non-whites.
2 throwaway_at_ 2020-02-24
Very rarely.
To practice as a doctor, you HAVE to attend a residency to get your medical license. A doctor without a medical license can barely do anything.
Most foreign medical graduates are US students who attend Caribbean schools. The second biggest group are from countries with reputable medical programs (not Kazakhstan). Even in either of those situations, you has to scrape the bottom of the barrel to get a residency and you can only do that if you have VERY good scores.
Recently, the major standardized exam med students take (step 1) just became pass/fail, so itβs impossible to have a high score, meaning foreign medical grads are even more fucked.
Basically, if you have to do foreign medical, itβs way better to just do something else. Most people set up for med school (even lower stat) still have options. Below is a ranked list of options in terms of admission difficulty:
-MD (gold standard)
-DO (silver, yes they are full doctors)
-Dentistry (admissions are still tough)
-Podiatry (foot doctor, easier admissions)
-Pharmacy school
-PA (still tough, but a lot easier than med)
-grad school (eventual community college professors)
-law school
-Reddit Jannie
2 CasperTheBandit 2020-02-24
Do you know anyone that had troubles getting accepted into a medical school due to legal issues
My buddy had to delay his application a year due to a charge
1 throwaway_at_ 2020-02-24
Yes. Alcohol charges mostly (DUI for one peer, and MIP for another).
They do not take things like this lightly and will drill you about it in your interview if youβre even able to get there.
A really big portion of doctors who get their licenses revoked are for alcohol-related issues like coming in to work drunk. Itβs best to disqualify high-risk people early, and criminal charges are a red flag.
1 trexmundi 2020-02-24
I've heard some stories from some folks in the know about how absurdly common it is for medical professionals to get DUIs. Then on the other hand how common it is for medical boards to turn a blind eye to it, or let people off of their punishment a few months later when no one is watching and claim the MD is 'rehabilitated'.
2 ponyblaze 2020-02-24
ive seen a lot of international students in pharm school. it seems like a really tough 4 yr program but a good alternative to med school
1 jokes_on_you 2020-02-24
No it's not. Job market is absolute shit for pharmacists.
1 ponyblaze 2020-02-24
in america maybe. but these are international students
1 LightUmbra 2020-02-24
Aren't Vet schools pretty hard to get in to.
1 AlveolarPressure 2020-02-24
Yes vet school is competitive
1 watermark1917 2020-02-24
Kazakhstan has one of the best medical programs in the world, how dare your insult glorious nation of Kazakhstan.
1 AlveolarPressure 2020-02-24
Lol the whole Step 1 change reminds me of the one high school acquaintance I have who is LARPing that she's in med school despite being in a master's program. While all the legit med students/premeds I know were upset by it, she was celebrating bc she's a moron who doesn't know better π
2 UnderthebootofATSTIL 2020-02-24
Lol the changes are just a giant π to any foreigner
1 AlveolarPressure 2020-02-24
Yeah I work with a bunch of foreign medical grads and they were sad. All of them have taken Step 1 already and most have also done Step 2 so it won't affect them, but they know it will make it harder for others like them. It's already hard enough.
2 UnderthebootofATSTIL 2020-02-24
Dumbest fucking reasoning too. They said minorities do poorly on it, so to help minorities they removed the one equalizer used. Now itβs going to be way heavier on connections and reputation, and everyone knows minorities have that in abundance /s.
1 AlveolarPressure 2020-02-24
Real big brain hours
2 Chance_Bear 2020-02-24
We've seen it for years that "minorities" is the go to justification for methods that allow otherwise uncompetitive legacy students into elite colleges.
The upper class loves using identity politics as justification for nepotistic gain.
1 throwaway_at_ 2020-02-24
It is very dumb. WOKEshit needs to get out of med.
It really hurts minorities who performed well too because now it will just be assumed them performed poorly.
1 assface0 2020-02-24
why changes are gaint for foreigners? like are they not smart enough lol
1 UnderthebootofATSTIL 2020-02-24
Itβs already harder as a foreigner because residency spots are limited and US students get preference because itβs a US system and the standard of the US schools is a bit more tightly controlled than some foreign schools. The test is a massive 8 hour long piece of shit that ranks you percentile wises. For foreign students it was a chance to prove that they got a good education by scoring higher than US grads. Itβs now going to be pass/fail so it is no longer a way to stratify applicants to residency programs. Now school name will be more important, which fucks over the foreign applicants whoβs school name will be below even the shitty US schools.
1 throwaway_at_ 2020-02-24
Why LARP. Itβs just saving the embarrassment for down the road.
βWerenβt you in medial school, why arenβt you a doctor?β
2 AlveolarPressure 2020-02-24
Who the fuck knows, it's weird. The school has an associated med school so I was fooled for a bit, but the Step 1 thing made me double check. Plus she has never posted a white coat pic, which is a dead giveaway with these types.
It's probably just insecurity since she's also the kind of person to constantly post pics of her notes+computer that the library to show everyone she's totally studying.
1 atmpls 2020-02-24
One of my drinking buddies is a practicing dentist. He originally went to med/dentistry school in Romania but had to take ALL of it over again in America.
1 assface0 2020-02-24
wait so by residency you mean 'Speicalization" basically post graduate study you do after you finish your medical degree?. if so i dont understand this why cant you get yyour medical license and practice as general doctor
1 HeresCyonnah 2020-02-24
Because you're supposed to do a more general residency if that's what you want to do.
2 watermark1917 2020-02-24
My doctors degree is from the university of Rajasthan in India. In like the 60s I think.
1 artemis_m_oswald 2020-02-24
Yeah you have to be incredibly exceptional to get admission into a residency program from a foreign nation
1 assface0 2020-02-24
why not tho, do US really underestimates everyone like that damn thats harsh
1 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2020-02-24
The AMA want to limit supply of doctors to keep doctors well paid.
1 assface0 2020-02-24
what is AMA, and that cant be the reason , you know damn well they have alot of money to spare limiting is not that big of deal,
1 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2020-02-24
It's the American Medical Association, and they do have power over that, read here if you want. They also lobby to limit how much medical work nurses and the like are allowed to do.
1 assface0 2020-02-24
dam it feels like the USA is operating in a complete different universe, with different systems different rules, like even the pathway to become doctor is very different from foreign countries, you have board exams,MCAT,residencies, undergrad and post grad and shit ton of stuff to do
1 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2020-02-24
It's nuts, it really is. Incidentally America would basically already have single payer if it wasn't for the same organization.
Harry Truman after WWII tried pushing that, but AMA lobbying killed it back then as well.
1 assface0 2020-02-24
what was harry attempting to do?? change the system to what exactly
1 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2020-02-24
He was going to totally change American healthcare. Before the Great Depression there were some charity hospitals for poor people but everyone else had to pay. There was virtually no government subsidized healthcare and less than 10% of people had health insurance. His proposal would have basically put government in charge of insuring everyoneβs healthcare.
It was perhaps extreme but itβs not out of line with how greatly America has changed up to then since the Depression and FDR came into power. The idea has supporters on both sides of the aisle as well.
1 600_lbs_of_sin 2020-02-24
Glorious Kazakhstan already greatest nation in all of world, only tiny brain retard would leave to go school in inferior foreign land
1 assface0 2020-02-24
FUCK MAN this is depressing as hell, im a currently in medical field Except its in foregin country in turkey. i really wish and always wanted to go to US . i read alot about the medical schools their and how different systems they do, (undergrad degree the med school unlike here you go straight to med school after highschool. 2nd the board exams MCAT and whatever are those )
it just sucks staying here knowing my degree is pretty much worthless outside im hopping i can be an exchange student to any european country maybe ill finish in germany or somewhere else
not only it sucks to live here, you will likely not make any enough money to go on vacation outside and live a good life, our economy is also crippling the currency is getting lower and lower ffs
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1 companyfry 2020-02-24
Real r/drama-posting hours.
1 assface0 2020-02-24
whats that
1 chad_thunderclock 2020-02-24
I mean, if I were delusional Iβd have a better delusion. Like, I am about to graduate Yale Medical School with a residency at John Hopkins for brain surgery. And I got like four girls on my dick, and they live with me happily. Oh. And I am the Emperor of Mars
1 Systemsmodel 2020-02-24
Why would his brother care? His trolling harms no one
1 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2020-02-24
He was going to totally change American healthcare. Before the Great Depression there were some charity hospitals for poor people but everyone else had to pay. There was virtually no government subsidized healthcare and less than 10% of people had health insurance. His proposal would have basically put government in charge of insuring everyoneβs healthcare.
It was perhaps extreme but itβs not out of line with how greatly America has changed up to then since the Depression and FDR came into power. The idea has supporters on both sides of the aisle as well.