I once told pizza to 'have sex'. He then proceeded to downvote my comment. He did that without my consent. That was really mean. Do better, 🐝 better ❤️️

I've never downvoted or upvoted a comment on reddit. Only seething faggots downvote comments on reddit.

You have two post submissions and that is truly pathetic.

I just downvoted your comment. Fuck you.

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You have 4 links and not one of them is to information. The signal to noise ratio of the shit I've read from your links is absolutely abysmal, nobody with a working brain would put time into reading such drivel, let alone attempt to use it in place of information sources. If basic income actually failed, you could give at least some semblance of a concise explanation of the failure, or at least have one of your four links lead to something data-focused, instead of being like "here's an opinion, now immerse yourself in verbose repititions of that opinion for a half hour since hopefully that's enough to make you agree with it." You are a prime brainwashee and the reason Trump will win again.

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kinda funny since pizza isnt even larping as a conservative on there, just a slightly-disagreeing liberal and it still drives them crazy

My favorite one was when he claimed he sees no discernable difference in the value he places on the life of some random African and his own community/family.

bretty baste

Pizza's family are worth much less than some random African, no contest

I'm honestly amazed you're still posting after I baited you with those 2 copy pastes and exposed you as the retard you are.

Unless I'm confusing you with someone else, you're pitter right? I get my pakis mixed up a lot.

Who? I'm a proud person of colour but I'm of Hibernian descent, not Pakistani.

I thought you were Caledonian. Please don't try to infiltrate our secret society.

I'm a Hibernian infiltrator in Caledonia and unless you want to go the way of Rangers you'll pretend you didn't notice

implying pizza has family

go back to drama and take your retard friend with you

That was very rude to say to you!

Tbf Balkanoids are basically Africans.

Most based thing he's ever said

My favorite one was when he claimed he sees no discernable difference in the value he places on the life of some random African and his own community/family.

He isnt wrong if you dont count emotional value as anything.

My favorite one was when he claimed he sees no discernable difference in the value he places on the life of some random African and his own community/family.

That's standard for stupidpol tho

anarcho-trannies that actively try to ruin the pen

Name a more iconic duo

The few times I've seen him pop up on the sub he's had complete galaxy brain takes coupled with thousands of words trying to explain how he's not actually a retard.

Refute a single thing I've said.

My favorite one was when he claimed he sees no discernable difference in the value he places on the life of some random African and his own community/family.

Explain in detail why the life of someone you care about is more valuable than the life of someone else, using an argument other than "just because."

using an argument other than "just because."

Why not?

Because that's not a real argument. We're discussing the value of life on a moral basis.

You don't get to call an argument that says "all life is equal" retarded while your only counter-argument is "you're wrong just because."

Because that's not a real argument. We're discussing the value of life on a moral basis.

Why do you assume the universal basis for valuing people's lives? It's entirely OK for me to have my valuation, you have your own valuation, and we have a moral system that informs us how to come to a mutually agreeable arrangement.

Because the context of the discussion wasn't "what you find personally valuable" but "what is valuable."

Pizza nothing has inherent value, not even people. The only things that have value are what you personally assign them.

That's just retarded.

Why is it retarded?

'just because' :4)

Can you use an argument other than "just because."

Then describe value without referencing human judgement

Well then you're just asking for a descriptive rather than prescriptive answer: lives of my fellow wypipo are more valuable because me and other wypipo find them personally valuable and we have more resources to spend on them than some bare ass Africans on their fellow Africans.

It's still not logically defensible. Your lives aren't more valuable, realistically.

Realistically they are totally more valuable. Consider which diseases kill Africans but don't kill Americans, realistically.

What do you mean by "logically defensible" I have no clue. Like you live in your own autistic universe where that is not so and you expect me to reach in and battle you using logic and reason?

A life is a life, no life is greater or worth more than another life morally.

This is a statement, not an argument. It is a statement that doesn't even know what kind of statement it is.

You're an intellectual midget.

It's a moral stance, one most rational people would agree with. The reason you find it hostile is that you, yourself, are likely a nationalist and have based at least some of your identity on the arbitrary lines on a map you happened to be born within, or your ethnicity, or other factors completely out of your control.

99.999% of rational people would agree that they personally value their life more than the life of a complete stranger.

I'm willing to bet that I, personally, as a matter of fact, have demonstrated more regard for lives of far off people than 99.9% of the western population by actually donating for malaria nets for Africans more than once.

I suspect that I've donated more than you for that matter. And yet here you are, schooling me on what the correct moral stance is. Tfu, tfu.

99.99% of rational people would agree that they personally value their life more than the life of a complete stranger.

They'd say they value their own life more - but they wouldn't declare logically their life is more valuable than the life of an African.

I suspect that I've donated more than you for that matter. And yet here you are, schooling me on what the correct moral stance is. Tfu, tfu.

You can take whatever stance you'd like - I'm simply pointing out your life isn't worth more than the life of some African child or anyone else.

I place the life of an American on equal footing with the life of some Mexican, some African, some Canadian or whatever else.

They'd say they value their own life more - but they wouldn't declare that on an empirical basis their life was somehow worth more than another life.

The fuck do you mean by "empirical basis"?

"I place the life of an American on equal footing with the life of some Mexican, some African, some Canadian or whatever else.", yeah, so we observe (that's what "empirical" means, "based on observation"), we observe you spending money on whatever shit that brings you fleeting pleasure rather than on mosquito nets for Africans and determine that actually you value your own life thousands of times more than lives of Africans.

On the other hand, whatever you say on the subject with your whore mouth is a waste of breath.

eah, so we observe (that's what "empirical" means, "based on observation"), we observe you spending money on whatever shit that brings you fleeting pleasure rather than on mosquito nets for Africans and determine that actually you value your own life thousands of times more than lives of Africans.

The best part about this is I've personally given like 650 grand to various charity orgs in Africa.

And i actually used the wrong word, I meant logically, not empirically.

The best part about this is I've personally given like 650 grand to various charity orgs in Africa.

Sure.

And i actually used the wrong word, I meant logically, not empirically.

This sounds like a set up for a joke. "Hey dad, what's the difference between "logically" and "empirically"?" ... "So logically we should be millionaires but empirically we have three useless whores in this house".

Sure.

You can believe whatever you'd like.

This sounds like a set up for a joke. "Hey dad, what's the difference between "logically" and "empirically"?" ... "So logically we should be millionaires but empirically we have three useless whores in this house".

I'm just used to saying "empirically" and kind of just throw it out because most arguments I enter aren't of a "subjective nature." I know the difference for sure, it was just bad word use.

The point still stands tho. "Logically" we have a world full of egalitarians, empirically...

Well, I'm not going to claim the world is as it should be. empirically most people are probably shitheads.

empirically most people are probably shitheads.

... and don't deserve anything better 😆😂🤣😏😏

no life is greater or worth more than another life

Hammurabi disagrees.

I'll be happy to give you several (assuming you still mean your / a parent vs some rando in Africa);

Do you place value on social/cultural significance? I have two sisters in junior school, my father brings value to society by socialising them and giving them a strong male role model in their life. His absence would ultimately damage society as a whole marginally more than the disappearance of some hermit living in a mud hut in Africa

Do you want to take it from a utilitarian perspective? The aforementioned father owns several businesses; the value brought to society by this life greatly exceeds the potential value offered by the life of that rando in Africa

Religious perspective? A father has accomplished the will of God and brought forth progeny, this hypothetical random man in Africa has done nothing to further His cause, therefore his life is worth less to religious communities at large

There are so many ways one life can be worth more than another, and in so many senses. Saying you place value on the life of your mother/father as much as that on the life of anyone else is pretty bad dude

You're not more valuable than some kid in Africa and neither is your father or sister, get over it. Sorry, you were born in the same lines as some other people, that doesn't make them more important or more valuable than anyone else.

No matter what.

I let this argument go ages ago because I'm not interested in debating morality with obese americans that think they're special.

No argument nor rebuttal

Aite gg then

Being too stupid you aren't worth a real argument is not "no rebuttal" it's you being dismissed, in the same vein as Alex Jones.

I've given several variants of "value", you haven't. What's good nigga

Your variants of "value" aren't relevant. Making money doesn't mean your life is more valuable. That's not how it works, that argument was so dumb I instantly dismissed you.

And you've yet to suggest a quantifiable meaning of value yourself

Surely this isn't a poorly prepared larp 🤔🤔

There's no larp here. If someone walks up to you and says "lizard jews run the moon" you dismiss them.

That's about the tier I consider your points on.

human 1 has more value than human 2

lizard jews run the moon

You've lost your touch, being defensively dismissive does you no favours

Human lives can always be assigned a relative "value," to say otherwise is to declare no man can be better than any other. As long as you have winners and losers, you will have lives differing in importance

google egoism then kill yourself

What drives us crazy is that all of his posts are basically

"WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS STUPID BERNIEBROS!"

Just call him a fag and move on you stupid bitch

well don't fuckin read them u turbosperg 🤷🏿

Lol he was strongly asserting that Obama is “an S-tier politician”, that’s not slightly disagreeable liberal, that’s annoying faggot

Are you going to deny reality there or what?

Obama is a good politician, a hell of a lot better than the old jew that runs around praising Cuba. I honestly hope Bernie loses that election because I have an entire list of Berntards I'm gonna follow around while saying shit like "that's why Trump won, you guys are just so out of touch."

"deny reality there"

You're telling me using the words "Obama is an S tier politician" doesnt make you a faggot?

How does it?

Because it's unaware fanboyism parading as enlightened fact. Not only is calling him "S-tier" just fucking gay language, literally the only people who are calling him great are liberal cheerleaders. All serious opinions about him appear to be pretty mixed

I don't like Obama. He was still a good politician. This has nothing to do with his policies or your opinions of him as a person.

This is about his skill as a politician - which is substantial. Likely one of the best in recent history. You don't get elected as a black guy in America with Hussain in your name without serious political maneuvering. Let alone win a primary vs a dynasty name as a fairly unknown senator.

I am skeptical of whether or not being black helped or hindered him.

Is Trump an SS-tier politician because he was elected despite his character and history? Was it luck? Was it the unpredictability of how tribal politics play into disgust and admiration along personal lines? Were people just dying for a dem in office, and correctly predicted that Hilary Clinton has the smell of a loser about her? I don't know, and disregarding those issues, Obama didn't have a clean record on paper either.

I am skeptical of whether or not being black helped or hindered him.

Are you really skeptical on the question "did being black" help or hurt Obama in an election? Being black makes it fairly hard to navigate racial issues in a country where white people lose their shit over pretty much anything. Almost right after he was elected they tried to smear him as a non-citizen.

Is Trump an SS-tier politician because he was elected despite his character and history? Was it luck?

I don't think it was "luck" per se. I just don't think they were disadvantages in a Republican primary, or a general election. Trump was saying what right-wing talk radio had been saying for years. He wasn't some aberration.

I'd say Trump won in spite of his flaws and political incompetence, and Obama won because of his political competence.

Were people just dying for a dem in office, and correctly predicted that Hilary Clinton has the smell of a loser about her? I don't know, and disregarding those issues, Obama didn't have a clean record on paper either.

The people "predicting" Clinton was X Y and Z weren't basing those predictions on anything empirical or academic. They didn't like Clinton, so they declared she was totally a bad candidate. The climate didn't favor her - but she ran a more skilled campaign than Donald Trump did.

But when you live in a country that values "change" over substance, being more skilled doesn't mean much. I'd actually rate Trump as a pretty bad politician.

Almost right after he was elected they tried to smear him as a non-citizen.

Who did? A majority of voters? Or a losing minority who ended up functioning as a symbol of what the rest of America wanted to repudiate with their vote?

Over 50% of the Republican base believed he wasn't a citizen and it was an argument repeated by fairly mainstream GOPers.

They then weaponized white backlash against him in state elections.

A democrat doesn't need %50 of the republican base to win presidency, Flip the parties again, is Trump a god for being essentially a "Russian puppet/ traitor/ conman" to every last democrat and still winning? I say no. The system is volatile, and being a winner in the face of misinformation from the other party doesn't imply great political skill. Someone has to win, and that person is going to have a character defect the other side hates, and their side will decide to rally against this hatred in disgust.

I think you're misunderstanding me.

not all elections come down to political skill.

You have:

• fundamentals.

• support floors.

• world events.

All of these can be fairly out of your control - where political skill comes in is navigating something that has a chance to seriously reduce your support with a key demographic.

So in the case of Obama - you have racial issues. The Obama campaign had to put very serious thought into how they were going to navigate racial issues in a country where race is still very much important.

An example of a mistake Obama made, when he got careless was the Trayvon fiasco.

I've seen no evidence Trump is a skilled politician. The gaffes, the miscalculations, the doubling down on a shrinking base after a bad mid-term - that's just evidence of political incompetence.

To be honest, I don't really think Trump is all that skilled either. However, despite all his actions which are conventionally thought of as mistakes, he's proven to be remarkably resilient. He has either a strange talent that he found effective by accident. or just advantageously broke many of the "gentleman's rules" of politics which were respected by past presidents.

Anyway, I don't think you're a dumbass,

I think the source of Trump's "moderate support" in some areas is simply hating the system, a protest vote more than support for his platform or worldview.

I heard someone call Trump a political arsonist once, and I think the term fits.

Cuck

Gonna let you in on a little secret here, hicks, as an American conservative I don't expect you to be aware of this given the conflation of liberalism with the socialist left in conservative circles.

Commies fucking hate liberals, more than conservatives, more than anyone else. A commie will side with a far-right fascist over a liberal.

If Pizzashill is truly cut off from Reddit he'll either run for office or shoot up a sorority house.

Or diddle kids. We are truly helping our fellow man by keeping him occupied

Why not all three?

run for office at a kid diddling society he shot up

Pretty based tbh

Came here to say this

Hopefully he’ll learn to multitask I believe in him

I've attempted to get him run for his local city council twice

He lives in Florida right? He should be a perfect fit

He is the ideal florida man

hopefully both

If you faggot paypigs didn't spend REAL MONEY banning him from hwre this wouldn't be an issue 😒 🐽

I thought you'd have better tard wranglers in your ranch than this wilderness

Honey I can get away with being a Stalinist here better than I can in the damn Marxist sub.

Cryptoanarchists the lot of them.

I'm turning them all gay 🥴

Idk tbh I haven't looked at the modmail in like a year

Doing 0 moderating puts in the running for best mod imo.

I've never topped any polls smdh. I'm a cult fave tho

I have literally no idea who you are so I vote for you as best mod

imagine unironically using your free time to argue with people online for the sole purpose of arguing.

Imagine actually thinking your arguing online is changing hearts and minds.

If your movement sees Pizzashill as a serious threat who needs to be silenced then I'm not really sanguine about the chances of your revolution succeeding.

He's been banned from 169 countries and has over 6 gorrillion nuked accounts.

Plus I heard his family controls Reddit Community Coins. 🤔

This but as literal facts

Thus begins his redemption arc.

I just imagine him debating on default subs to rocky theme music while he trains up for his glorious return to r/drama

These faggots got together like a bundle of sticks and banned me too. Its a real shame if they ban him. Pizza like me has only one sub left he’s not banned in

I'm not banned from most subs.

I said they were enslaving black people

That place has gone to shit.