/r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM doesn't like it when people point out how far left Bernie is

1  2020-02-26 by informat6

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Wasnt asking you, cretin.

Let me speak in your language of Cretin Retardian. Im a bit rusty. I haven't fully grasped your language.

Ok...ahem

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For people who arent Cretin Retardians, that translates to:

Go fuck your Dad's dick hole like the good little sperm you are

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I just see a rightoid sperging out in a leftoid sub.

Student debt doesn't even exist in the rest of the developed world.

clueless burger lol

clueless entitled burger, wants other to pay for his retarded life choices like getting a liberal arts degree.

college is a human right sweety

NOOOOOOO! WHAT DO YOU MEAN MY GENDER STUDIES DEGREE WON'T GET ME A JOB?

Funny thing is that a "worthless" degree like that is more likely to land you a good job than a STEM degree.

Identity politics is pretty hot right now and all the corporations and governments need professional advice on correct pronoun use etc.

Meanwhile STEMcels have to fry burgers cause there's just too many of them.

Do you people have any other argument against having an educated population aside from the existence of history, and philosophy degrees?

The population is educated for 12 years and is still fucking useless. 4 more years won't help.

going in college doest turn u from uneducated to educated.

But muh philosophy degree

Specifically, that's exactly what it does. Whether it makes you smart is up for debate.

going in college doest turn u from uneducated to educated.

you can really tell that this sub is full of dumb people when statements like that get updooted lmao

updooted

May allah snap your neck.

Do you need anything else?

If you're teaching the population useless garbage and doing it poorly enough that people can graduate from your facility and think sanders is a reasonably good choice for president then you don't deserve to be paid for what you're teaching. There is nothing of actual use that is taught in general admission college that isn't or couldn't be covered in a one semester high school course. The idea that our society should light $50k+ on fire to have citizens not be productive for 4+ of their most valuable years is absurd, if your degree doesn't have a return on investment that dwarfs the cost enough for you to take on the debt yourself then you should not go to college, if you did anyways then you should not only not have your debt forgiven but you should lose the vote for demonstrating you cannot be trusted with any kind of tough decision.

You say this as though those things that could be taught in high school are, in fact, taught in high school. They aren't, so your argument is premised on bullshit. Everything else you bothered was unqualified opinion.

We should abolish high-school too. If we're paying for shit and not getting it then we should stop paying for it.

Way things are going, you'll probably get what you want.

good. get the roads out of here too who the fuck needs transportation

>the country that spends more than almost every other country in the world on education is literally about to shut down all high schools

See this is why nobody respects college any more. If it worked, you'd be a lot less retarded.

People always think things can't happen until they do. 200 schools in Detroit alone have closed since 2000. They haven't been replaced.

You mean the city that lost 61% of its population doesn't need as many schools? I am shocked. Shocked, I say!

This was well after the population decrease. Right after the casinos that were supposed to keep the schools open.

The number I gave is a total decline from 1950 to 2015. So unless 200 schools have closed since 2015 then you're still wrong

The decline happened in the nineties, so your numbers are misleading.

So everyone moved away, the schools stopped taking new years, let the current students pass through and then shut down. What's the issue?

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I should've put money on this.

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Oh fuck off r/ENLIGHTENEDcentrism cunt

I was banned from there, so no.

You can honestly get the same education at a public library if you self teach. College/University is just a piece of paper verifying that you did in fact get the education.

liberal arts degrees are rad. the problem is that poor people think they’re allowed to get one

Thanks for honestly stating the conservative opinion.

STEM is liberal arts retard

Why do they think fucking everyone tries to go to college in America lol

Yes. That's because most of the developed world has moved to the auth-right and is falsely claiming that to be the moderate centre.

These people have the right to vote lmao

Did I move left? No it's the earth that moved right!

Ok, Einstein

They also claim Sanders is centrist again. Even if he was against the rest of the world, each country is unique and has its own political landscapes and different problems and Sanders is clearly hard left in the US political sphere.

“You know, in Europe, Bernie would be considered a centrist.”

“Really? Because in Poland I think he’d be beaten to death for being a fucking communist.”

Poland is Nazi

Law and Justice is a neo fascist movement

Bernie is hard left in the Nazi German political sphere. Exactly as hard left as he is in the US political sphere.

we need to be like Scandinavia

Says the people who don't know most of them don't have a minimum wage and their tax rate is 1% higher than the usa.

Even Sanders qualify as a far-left in Scandinavia.

Because scandanavia will scream over and over that its not democratic socialist and bernies senile, demented brain keeps chugging lol

Tbh only proposing for minimum wage is even more left than our far-left.

Or their demographics lmao

> be Scandinavia

> be all white (98%)

Okay let's implement that.

> no not that part!!!!!! Reeeeeeeeee

Like these retards are clueless. You can have nice things but only when you get rid of the negros and the spics

Spics are the only thing that'll save Burger land from the mayo menace.

Better a tanned America than a pale tranny America.

I don’t know how trans stuff became an inherently Mayo problem as a common talking point on this subreddit.

Both Hispanics and blacks have a higher rate of transgenderism than whites

Thats bc they have a lower blood brain barrier. So all the gay frog hormones affect them more. Or so I've been told. Mayos and (((Mayos))) have been the ones promoting it though

Who's promoting this stuff?

Minorities

Unironically mostly ((()))

Reds aren’t even in society for the most part. Either living segregated in reservations or moved into society long ago and got Warren’d.

Reds aren’t even in society for the most part. Either living segregated in reservations

How do they live? I know Canadian Reds and Abos live pitifully.

or moved into society long ago and got Warren’d.

The Sopranos told me that after the Gaming Act was passed, a lot of mayos rediscovered their peace pipes.

It’s hard to say what their quality of life is like. Most seem to have no trouble making ends meet, their communities are given plenty to survive on in reparations but they also have tourism industries, crafting industries, and yes, Native American casinos are very real and thriving businesses. Even though they have money I think they still suffer from lack of quality infrastructure since their communities are so far removed from major cities and developed counties.

I visited a reservation in Arizona before and they all made a living selling shitty turquoise jewelry and handmade t shirts to tourists. Their community looked like any other small town in the middle of nowhere in the US southwest.

Huh, good to know.

Yep 10% of the population is why you can't have universal Healthcare.

Add in the wetbacks, then this, but not ironically.

we need to be like Scandinavia

How racially homogenous is Scandinavia? đŸ€”

Give it ten years

Invest in Castizo Futurism.

Literally the right wing answer to everything, oh no black people therefore we have to intentionally sabatoge our own country.

This is why we need communism, we need to shove communism right down your throat. I don't give a fuck what you racist shits think, you don't deserve a vote. I want your silence and obedience, not your opinion.

This isn't even a race thing this is a fact thing. The more racially homogenous a country the less unrest.

And yet again I'm seeing people talk about how homelessness in the USA is worse than Europe. Based on the actual numbers, we're doing pretty well, and Sweden has over twice the homeless ratio as the USA. These retards seriously think we have people starving to death in the streets, like they've never heard of soup kitchens and shelters or something.

Why the fuck does the amount of homeless matter anyway? America is the epicenter of the industrial revolution and we have more cities than anywhere on earth. We have the biggest military and like half the worlds drug problem since you know, we make most the drugs. 90% of homeless are there through their own fault. Homeless is the stupidest thing to measure a country by. In my anecdotal experience nearly every homeless is a black man or a soldier with extreme ptsd.

using wikipedia as a source is fucking retarded when there's 50 different sources each probably using a different definition of homeless

I love it when Americans talk about how "Europe" works.

It is like listening to a small child with a concussion explain how a jet flies.

They also like to conveniently forget all of Eastern Europe

Everyone would like to forget about Eastern Europe, but unfortunately they refuse to stop existing

Even eastern Europe would like to forget its existence hence the widespread casual alcoholism

slav foids are unironically god tier between ages 18 - 22

Brother, many of these harlot daughters of the mongol, they dress and behave without shame in the face of Allah. They are not "god tier" when in their hearts burns only the fire of Jahannam.

Though I did date a Polish chick once, she was pretty alright.

What kind of medical condition makes you incapable of discerning nose shapes?

Is that a Jew joke?

It's a Slav joke

Hahaha exactly.

europe is either a communist Eden where no one ever experiences any form of suffering, or europe is a wartorn hellhole where roving gangs of brown skins will rape and knife you the moment you step outside and the matriarchal government taxes you 99%

both

Little column a, little column b

yes

Europe is a neo fascist hell hole that needs a good invasion from Russia and America again

and this is why healthcare is completely free in the Europe

"There's no health insurance in Europe"

national rent control

just needs some fine tuning

lmao

Rent control isn't nearly as much of issue in Europe because they have massive pubic housing programs and wages tied to inflation.

lmao.

Rent control is literally retarded, to believe in rent control despite every economist telling you that it's the cyanide of policies is the same as not believing in global warming, except at least it's hard to actually do something about global warming while not fucking over your whole population by not implementing rent control is relatively easy.

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Rent control is just rent-seeking. The market distortion just creates problem in the long run in the housing market. Morons in Europe believe it is a goddamn birth right to live in the inner city with low rents.

Property is rent seeking

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Leftoids seem to forget that there literally isn’t a single example of rent controls increasing housing affordability and availability long term. So directly manipulating the price on what is essentially a commodity like housing is just bad economics 101.

Oh you have a bunch of garbage billionaire funded studies to prove that I'm sure

No thx sorry

To solve housing problems, build as many houses as you have families. Fuck the free market, nationalize the construction industry. The Soviet Union eliminated homelessness, we can again.

The Soviet Union eliminated homelessness, we can again.

I mean if you’re okay with throwing the homeless in forced labour camps sure.

nationalize the construction industry.

This is why you should have an IQ test before you vote.

The only way to get true centrism is to have a NazBol vs AnCap election.

AnCap election

NazBol election

ISIS and Pence share the same location. Racial and religious supremacy, theological government, repressive social control of women, children, and minorities.

They’re same thing, praying to the same God, for the same goals.

Truly enlightened

Yeah I heard Mike Pence goes around the White House beheading people, and then uploads it to the internet.

I know that’s not real, but I wouldn’t be opposed to it if it was

Would've been a lot cooler if he did.

Based.

Yeah I heard Mike Pence goes around the White House beheading people, and then uploads it to the internet.

Christ cucks can only dream of being so based.

Enlightened centrism has finally reached ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM. It was only a matter of time. You can only deny the true path for so long.

In a way it would be great if Bernie were to be elected only to actually push through all that insane shit like wealth taxation, 35% corporate tax and free college/m4a only for it all to be reverted in 6 months because it would unironically destroy the country

I would support free college if it came with massively reduced admissions

Harvard is basically free if your family is middle class (and you manage to get in).

Or despite the last 4 years of reeeeeing the president is in fact not a dictator and can’t do anything without congress.

Scarily enough the President might legitimately have the power to clear federal student debt (if it actually happened it would probably get fast tracked to the Supreme Court). The President waving away $1.6 trillion with a magic wand and no oversight should terrify people but executive overreach is actually very cool as long as my team is doing it.

To serious post: I was really hoping trump would be a rude awakening for democrats and someone would run on stripping the executive branch of their powers.

Just someone once say “since FDR we have let power slip from congress to White House and over the best three offices we have seen the dangers of this.”

But instead they are just giving away shit

Yeah because we aren't cucks

Yeah we'll be the responsible ones again just so you can run buck fucking wild next time you have power like always

Sorry, no can do, we will just the powers you have given us to their fullest extent. You cucked Obama, we learned our lesson, we will abuse the system twice as hard as you. We're done cleaning up your mess for you you pieces of shit.

that'd be hilarious lmao. If that happened future students would have to be complete retards to ever pay back student loans ever again. It's like how Reagan's amnesty for Illegals only emboldened illegal immigration

It's like how you're mentally retarded

Based

Imagine thinking that tax rates have any effect on economic growth

Literally the most thoroughly disproved notion in history

ISIS and Pence share the same location. Racial and religious supremacy, theological government, repressive social control of women, children, and minorities.

Ishallah. Pence is fighting the holy war.

The kaffir will learn his place, brother.

As long as there are hipsters, trust fund babies and non-blonde white women, the well of identity politics will never dry out.

Non-blonde white women

Can you expand on this

Blond mayo foids are objectively more desirable, what they and the non-blond mayo foids are aware of. The inability to cope with being less desirable causes them to sperg out on the regular. Or at least that's what I was told. I'm a fag, I wouldn't know anything about foids but to stay away from them.

You’re probably correct seeing as how every white woman dyes her hair blonde.

Blond mayo foids are objectively more desirable

If they don't turn their skin into leathery bacon

Poland is a nazi country

bernie is pro gun

bernie is pro gun

bernie is pro gun

bernie is pro gun

God I wish

How do you think Mike “Shock’em til they’re Straight” Pence achieved the vice presidency? Through Jihad of course.

Cancelling student debt

You signed a document saying you will pay it back. You fucking idiots that's how loans work.

Who's the real retard: the retard who takes out a loan for Gender Studies or the retards who give loans to millions of student's for their Gender Studies degree and expect them to pay it back?

Both

>be 17

>not allowed to fuck

>not allowed to drink a beer

>not allowed to even vote

>not allowed to smoke a cig

>not allowed to buy a car

>not allowed to take a picture of yourself without "producing child porn"

>not allowed to open your own bank account

>not allowed to even live by yourself

>not allowed to sign literally any other contract

>Allowed to sign up for $50,000+ of federal student loans that can never be discharged even if you're literally homeless or paying child support, and even once "forgiven" counts as taxable income

not allowed to fuck

Maybe for you incel

I see the libertarians have arrived

ur a pedo cause u had sex at 17

t. Actual downie

Actually, it's called ephebophilia and it's very natural.

It is if you are 17 yourself you absolute retard

Statistically speaking, if someone is attracted to 17 year olds, the most obvious reason is because they are one of the country's small handful of old pedophiles. The very idea that they could instead be one of the country's tens of millions of people under the age of 18 is preposterous to say the least.

Also, I paid upwards of $50,000 to go to college and I still believe what I believe.

that can never be discharged even if you're literally homeless or paying child support

That's part of the deal when you expect a $50,000+ loan with literally no credit history.

It's a shit deal. We spend 13 years telling children in state facilities that they'll be homeless fuckup losers for not going to college, and then we lock them into a lifelong debt to the government/private student loan companies before we even trust them to vote. Oh, but it's their choice! Nevermind the lifelong pressure from parents, teachers, and peers and the fact that in literally all other aspects of their lives we don't trust them to make good decisions.

Or you could get scholarships, or go to community college for your first two years. Or go to a state school close to home instead of the private college halfway across the country. You could work a part time job to help defray expenses, or complete a co-op or internship program to make connections and gain experience in your field. You could plan ahead as a high schooler instead of just going with whatever half-baked idea pops into your hormone-addled brain.

Everybody I know who complains that they'll never be able to pay off their student loans made objectively terrible decisions about their education and now expects the rest of the country to bail them out. It's ridiculous.

I mean, I agree for the most part, but I don't agree that $1 trillion of student debt is something this country should be proud of because "lol you signed a contract at 17/18 after a lifetime of mentors telling you it was the right thing to do, dipshit." There's clearly some sort of problem that student debt is around twice the DoD's budget.

Funny when I was 17 I understood the concept of ‘debt’ tho. Which is why I went military and enjoy all the niceties reddit libs screech for and look cooler doing it too

Yeah, but legally you were still too stupid to operate a touchscreen in a voting booth and too incompetent to live without mommy and daddy. My point is this: At 17 you're considered too stupid to understand how to finance a car (an asset that can be easily repossessed with only a minor loss to the bank and only affects your credit for 7 years), but call it "student loans" and suddenly you're a super genius capable of understanding how lifelong debt works.

U can be emancipated at 16. And if u read my comment I joined the military and thus moved out at 17. The majority of Americans start college, quit using a pedantic minority to justify your dumbass choices. As if raising the student debt age to 18 would fix anything smh

I signed a document saying I would pay back what I was legally obligated to pay back. When it canceled, I am legally obligated to pay back $0. Sorry you fucking idiot that's how the law works.

Yes. That's because most of the developed world has moved to the auth-right and is falsely claiming that to be the moderate centre.

If you believe the political compass folks, Sanders is objectively centrist tending to slightly lib-left, as opposed to the so-called "centrists" smack bang in the middle of the auth-right Overton window of acceptable discourse.

Hate all of these words. 'uh I'm in the uh peepee poopoo quadrant in the lower left in the-' fuck all of this. There is CRINGE and there is BASED. And you're not based.

cringe and based-pilled

Based on a website that doesn't reveal its methods, or who runs it as well....

I want to spend an hour thinking about politics the same way that these tards do just to see how their brains work

Distant objects are actually very small, because they look small to me. If someone is yelling from a distance, they're actually speaking very quietly, because it sounds quiet to me. The earth can't revolve around the sun, because I can plainly see that the sun revolves around me.

It's a level of solipsism I simply didn't think was possible before I started using reddit. It goes beyond "if I can't see it, it doesn't exist" and into "I am the epicenter of all that is, was, and ever will be. The entire universe is to be calibrated around me specifically."

It's actually a fun thought experiment if you stave off the inevitable insanity by convincing yourself everyone like that is just le epic troll or a faulty AI or something.

Appearantly pence is a theocratic monarchist.

Nearly had a stroke over that image. What an indictment of the educational system.

i am legit triggered that LibRight is purple

"Monarchist Trump isn't real"

Monarchist Trump:

Most have modest tuition fees, they don't tie graduates down with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt that takes decades to pay off.

Average student loan debt in the US: $31,172

Europe wouldn't pay for you to go spend $200k on some awful private art school there, chief.

Europe has no housing crisis

That's all you need to know

There's like a 30 year waiting list to get an apartment in Stockholm. Rent control has so utterly fucked the housing market that the only way to move there is by getting an apartment through a black market.

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Burger Hicks at least don't give a shit about stuff they don't know about.

Makes sense.

The share of young people aged 16-29 living with their parents in 2017 was 68.2 % in the EU-28. For young men the share was 73.3 %, while for young women it was 62.9 %, a gap of 10.4 percentage points.

Source literally from eurostat

No housing crisis bro, rent control in Europe just works.

Yup, most eurocels live with their parents. It's extremely well known. Portugal and Italy I figure the number is 90%!

Hahaha try living on a space 1/10th of Texas with 80 Million other people "no housing crisis" my ass.

be German, live in a suburb of a city because the town and country is literally only for farmers and industry

Literally can not buy a house or property no matter what you do

Can only rent

Rent is San Francisco levels of retarded expensive

Rent a fancy shoebox, still can't modify the property you live on, still cucked by the landlord

yeah enviable existence

The ignorance of Sandersnistas is frightening

Love how literally no one is addressing this:

  • Raising the corporate tax rate up to 35% from 21%

  • Workers to directly elect at least 45% of the board of directors at all publicly traded companies as well as privately-owned companies with at least $100 million in revenue.

  • Require all publicly traded companies to provide at least 2% of their stock to their workers every year until the company is at least 20% owned by employees.

Because it’s actually pretty damn fucking left. Are these actually policies from Bernie? If so, you Americans will get the first happening of the decade before Bernie manages to touch a single dime of the Wall Street class.

Ya Bernie will get assassinated if he pushes for that

Those are pretty mild. He’s not even workers actual control of those companies.

You almost jebaited me there

No matter what your policies or beliefs are, if you use the syntax "to X from Y", you are a bad person. People read information left to right. Left comes first. You wouldn't say "I work to 5 from 9".

The things Bernie talks about aren't really all that revolutionary when the rest of the developed world already does most of it.

For a group of retards dedicated to mocking centrists, why are they trying to put Bernard Sanders closer to the centre?

For a group of retards

Oh I answered my own question lol.

That post is pretty bad tbh

That corporate tax rate was higher at the start of the clinton era.

And teachers in a lot of developed countries make more than 60k

That corporate tax rate was higher at the start of the clinton era.

And that tax rate is way higher then most of Europe's.

And teachers in a lot of developed countries make more than 60k

Yes, but their starting pay

The average teachers in most countries after 15 years of experience is making less then $60k a year. Bernie wants to make the starting pay higher then that.

The US govt has the ability to force companies to do business and work here, its an especially valuable market.

If youre going to make the economics argument that corporate tax simply taxes the workers; youre basically ignoring a much larger cost to the worker.

That being the cost of healthcare on employers.

It eats at a workers compensation directly while also costing on average 7ish% more every year since 2008.

iirc Canadian teachers scale to 90K cdn over 4 years it starts at 45 and goes up fast.

Are you really that upset by 15k additionally spent over 1 year?

Its teacher salaries, lmao why do you even care

Copeposting when your sperguments are getting downvoted? Eww sweaty đŸ„”

Yes. That's because most of the developed world has moved to the auth-right and is falsely claiming that to be the moderate centre.

your brain on reddit

Bernie is a liberal, just because he was more based in the past doesn't mean he's far left now. I will still be advocating Marxism leninism under comrade Bernie just as well.