But if you adjust the figures for the relative size of each group in the total U.S. population, they show that blacks are 50% overrepresented among perpetrators of hate crimes, while whites are about 25% underrepresented.
At this point 13/50 can be considered the equivalent of Pi for crime statistics because it keeps popping up regardless of the topic measured.
The only point you'll ever have is that you represent the sad, fedora-wearing, bloated face of capitalism in the 21st century.
Unfairly made famous and rich through copied ideas and appealing to kids. And yet is driven by some bizarre need for attention to spout insane, teenage edge lord style views. You are clearly not all that up on politics (or anything, maybe you can code?) yet your wealth has given you an oversized platform of confused 12 to 16 year olds to yell "sjwjjwjwj" at over and over again.
Honestly, I don't give a shit if you've been driven mad by fame or some bullshit. When I see amazing creative people dying depressed in poverty every day and you get to sit on twitter and make half assed 'now yur the nazi' comments, it's fucking sickening.
It started when the bong from The Daily Show got his own show on HBO and started doing his "but it's <current year>" routine to the point it became cliche, which was 2015. No cared about gaymergoat or what some maple-slurping schlub said. This is CY05. Buy a calendar.
So apparently tons of people are r-slurs here and haven’t really been following politics. I remember it was 2014 because no one would ever shut the fuck up about “it’s the current year!” then when I saw it started going mainstream (which was 2015) I lost it, the meme took on a life of it’s own.
So all you zoomers who keep screaming, “it’s 2015!!!” are wrong and secondly, keep it down, your mother needs her rest from having to deal with NEETs like you and her minimum wage job at Burger King is already bad enough.
So keep googling know your meme or whatever but that’s mainstream shit only a zoomer would know. Boomers like myself know it started in 2014 when the f*id menace really started taking off and just got worse as time went on.
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WSJ have been kind of getting away from being modern journos (idk how else to put it but they are less g@y) recently. Click on their editorial board page and just about everything posted should have gotten them canceled for even thinking the dems have been up to no good.
Google fired it's diversity department and swept it under the rug. They do not want to appear unaccepting of conservatives.
My personal opinion is the Algo has predicted the republicans winning a super majority in November. Why else would Google and Amazon be more kind to conservatives? The Algo has spoken.
lol, google got rid of their div department cause two former employees tried to sue them for discriminating against those with conservative views. Theyre trying to sweep this under because google doesn't want to give any ideas to others to try and sue them, and they ESPECIALLY dont want to give the gov any more reason/ammo to try and bootyfuck them like they tried to with microsoft and facebook (both dem and rep would KILL to do another hearing spectacle to boost their approval ratings). though it seems to have been a rather pointless move on googles part, since one of the former employees dropped their case cause it was obvious they weren't going to win, with the other likely to follow suit.
I’d say that the techies at Google have lost their power, and it’s the MBAs calling the shots (which is why Google search sucks more and more every year).
Regardless, I’m guessing a lot of talented developers who may have leaned conservative were tired of being forced to remain quiet and be bullied by all the diversity employees who were hired instead of more deserving white and Asian male techies. Since they don’t have to put up with the bullshit to make good money in SF, they left and the MBAs noticed the quality of the software was tanking.
I see it myself in tech companies in my city. A company doubles down on forcing diversity hires and making staff take bias training and constant virtue signally, feminism, etc - eventually the talent just says enough and quits.
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According to the latest official data from the Justice Department, there were indeed more than twice as many antiblack hate crimes as there were antiwhite hate crimes in 2018.
See guys I told you that there's-
But if you adjust the figures for the relative size of each group in the total U.S. population
WAIT NO WHAT IS HE DOING YOU CAN'T USE CONTEXT NOOOOOOO
It's useful for telling if certain populations are more prone to specific things.
Say you have 100 people and 3 people commit murder, those 3 people were all left handed and there are 6 left handed people out of the 100.
That means that 50% of the left handed community have killed and you track this statistic to see if it continues.
Usually you do this to learn the problems that society has and explore what you can do but in todays world the people on the left pretend it doesn't exist and hand wave any hard data proving otherwise and the people on the right use it to score political points.
No one actually cares about doing something about it, they just want to win.
lmao any resident who’s done an ER rotation will tell you that a majority of firearm-related visits are by black people, i can count on one hand how many times i’ve had a white dude come in with a gunshot wound
Okay, let’s use “context” then, and adjust for population size :
There were 2,426 black victims of anti-black hate crimes and 1,038 white victims of anti-white hate crimes in 2018. White people are approx. 76% of the population of 350 million, black people are approx. 13%.
Thats 1,038 total white victims out of 266 million white people.
And 2,426 black victims out of only 45 million black people.
So to adjust for population size, that means:
1 in every 18,550 black people are victims of racially motivated, anti-black hate crimes.
Compared to white victims: 1 out of every 256,260 white people were victims of racially motivated hate crimes.
Is that enough “context” for you, you fucking idiot? 😂
what did that would accomplish for you? Seriously, what did you think adjusting for population size would do ? If white people are the large majority compared to black people and there’s twice as many hate crimes against black people than against white people, what is the point you think you’re making by adjusting to population size?
You literally just don’t know math, ON TOP OF not knowing what the fuck you’re talking about. Sit down.
Counting victims will still be affected by population size because you’re drawing from the whole country. The proper method is to take the subset of the population committing hate crimes and analyze that. Per the article
blacks are 50% overrepresented among perpetrators of hate crimes, while whites are about 25% underrepresented
It’s not about the victims, it’s the ones who do the crime, because that will actually glean something other than “minority population is smaller”
But please, tell me more about how I don’t know math
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You will have heard by now of Ahmaud Arbery, the 25-year-old black man shot dead on a street in Brunswick, Ga., in February. Prosecutors initially declined to press charges in the case, saying that the alleged perpetrators, a white father and son, Gregory and Travis McMichael, had used legitimate force. Then video surfaced of the incident in which the unarmed black man is seen running down the street, seems to be confronted by the McMichaels, and is shot at point-blank range by the men, both of whom have now been charged with murder.
You probably haven’t heard of Paul and Lidia Marino. The couple, 86 and 85 years old, were shot dead a week ago while visiting a veterans’ cemetery in Bear, Del., where their son, who died in 2017, is buried. The authorities have so far been unable to establish a motive for the killing, but they identified a suspect, Sheldon Francis, a 29-year-old black man, later found dead after an exchange of fire with the police.
As far as I can tell, from news databases and online searches, other than local newspapers and TV, and a brief story by the New York Post, the death of the Marinos, who were white, has gone as unremarked as their lives. Mr. Arbery’s death, by contrast, has become one of those crimes that some who control our public discourse have decided is a “teachable moment.”
Millions of words have been devoted to exploring and explaining the moral of the killing. It has been widely described as a “lynching.” We have been reminded once again of the prevalence of unequal and violent treatment of minorities. We’ve been told once again that the killing reflects the daily reality of life in America for young blacks. This teaching moment has turned into a continuous, ubiquitous lecture series on the unalterably racist nature of America.
We don’t yet know the full facts behind either of these killings. Mr. Arbery’s certainly looked ugly, and whatever his killers and some neighbors allege he may have been doing on that street on a sunny afternoon, he clearly did not deserve to be gunned down. We will learn no doubt soon whether his killers did indeed have racist motives.
Perhaps, meanwhile, the murder of the Marinos was a random act of violence, a deranged killer, a robbery that savagely escalated. But whatever the motive, I’d be willing to wager a small fortune that we won’t hear much more about it.
Some will say that’s as it should be. Mr. Arbery’s killing is simply more representative of the nature of race relations in America.
But from the simple perspective of hate crimes, this isn’t right. According to the latest official data from the Justice Department, there were indeed more than twice as many antiblack hate crimes as there were antiwhite hate crimes in 2018. But if you adjust the figures for the relative size of each group in the total U.S. population, they show that blacks are 50% overrepresented among perpetrators of hate crimes, while whites are about 25% underrepresented.
In a larger sense, some will say, the much greater attention given to white attacks on blacks is justified because of the nature of socioeconomic relations between the races. Certainly, given the nation’s history and continuing social inequalities, a heightened sensitivity should be accorded evidence of racist violence by white people.
But we have gone way beyond heightened sensitivity, to the point of complete distortion of reality. Almost every instance of white violence against minorities is held up now as a bleak model of the state of the nation, while almost every instance of black violence against whites is ignored.
This selective, exclusive narrative isn’t just confined to the typical media channels. It’s embedded in the very way in which most of us acquire knowledge of the world.
Here’s an experiment. If you Google “blacks shot by whites” you get a predictable list of results heavily populated with articles about police violence. Google “whites shot by blacks” and, curiously, you get essentially the same set of results. The Google algorithm doesn’t even seem to acknowledge the possibility of black-on-white violence.
No fair person disputes the proposition that racism remains a continuing reality and blight on American life. But the systematic misrepresentation of the facts, the highly selective choice of stories, the one-sided nature of the reporting and the routine exclusion of countervailing evidence only risk making it worse.
Here’s an experiment. If you Google “blacks shot by whites” you get a predictable list of results heavily populated with articles about police violence. Google “whites shot by blacks” and, curiously, you get essentially the same set of results. The Google algorithm doesn’t even seem to acknowledge the possibility of black-on-white violence.
Lost credibility here. What a rtarded take that shows the author's bias. You could use his exact logic there to say Google doesn't acknowledge whte on bl*ck violence.
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I’ve often wondered if what police are reporting as crime committed by minorities vs majority are using differing language. Is it recorded as a domestic dispute when a wife is killed by her husband? It’s easy to compile certain statistics if you’re only looking for certain terminology. Language has always been used to reframe, to leverage, to move goal posts, etc. for different groups for the same scenario, I’m reminded of the looting vs scavenging thing from Katrina.
Also certain sections of this opinion piece read like a long form version of an Alt-right meme or a typical extreme brigadier post... he honestly said ”%50” without irony (like a brigadier would) and I’m sure he lost just about everyone but internet extremists looking for validation in doing that. It’s mostly done, I assume, to remind people that the web of extremism in America reaches further than a few one dimensional keyboard warriors on social media, because it always has. It is nice to know that through certain language racists out themselves while always seeking validation through their very worn rhetoric, which they are also, always doing. That being said, Louis CK also wants you to think he’s liberal.
Edit: also, planting guns, drugs, filling quotas for arrests and so on. Those numbers can be inflated easily with bodies, and have been in the past, if even those totals can’t be trusted for accuracy.
Edit: also harsh sentences for misdemeanors, aggravating the suspect, preying upon strangers in public, and so on. (Cops are not heroes). There are plenty of ways to get unsuspecting people (even the uninitiated especially) to react through body language and so on, and police are trained for this. Crime becomes nebulous when you frame and manufacture numbers through bodies in bonds.
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But we have gone way beyond heightened sensitivity, to the point of complete distortion of reality. Almost every instance of white violence against minorities is held up now as a bleak model of the state of the nation, while almost every instance of black violence against whites is ignored.
The problem is that most people don't care, aren't personally the victim of any crimes, and aren't really motivated to research anything beyond watching the nightly news before bed. Since the news can only focus on a few things they wind up amplifying single incidents instead of broader trends.
I don't even think it's malicious on their part for the most part. The problem is that they never take a step back and contextualize these sorts of things to make sure that their viewers don't get a warped perspective.
I don't even think it's malicious on their part for the most part.
I dunno about other outlets but at CNN they definitely made a conscious decision that they were going to "have a conversation about race in America", which in practice means they would blow up every incident like this as much as possible. It becomes a feedback loop where the more anxiety and paranoia they generate, the easier it is to find some incident they can pass off as a hate crime the next week. I don't believe for a second that everyone at the network is too stupid to understand what they're doing and just fell into this business strategy out of dumb luck.
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Team Biden, but still, the shit in articles like this need to be said. If you just got your news from MSNBC, you would think, I dunno, white people committed more hate crimes per capita.
I think these comments are fine, but yes, this place is leaning right a little much these days. But it's hard, because reddit is going more and more left, so any place that criticizes it is gonna attract trumptards
You're too much of a coward to actually reply to a comment that you have an issue with and explain what's wrong with it - because then someone might point out what an idiot you are. So instead, you make vague allusions.
nope. If you had an argument to make, then you would present it as a way of ridiculing me. In the absence of such argument, you call me a "dork" - which, I'll be honest, don't sting quite as much as you'd imagine.
...in response, I'm ridiculing you for being unable to defend yourself. This is how drama subs work.
You've never lost an argument in your life, because you never concede or learn anything. Now you are terrified of 12% of the population. For you that is pride, that is victory.
I mean, there was that one time when I was defeated by the power of anime and jesus christ, and everyone stood up and clapped.
For you that is pride, that is victory.
I'll be honest with you, it's less about me winning than it is about you losing. I just enjoy pointing at you and saying, hey everyone, look at this guy, he believes things but isn't able to articulate them.
At first, I was a little worried that I might be wrong, and that you'd actually have some cogent argument. Wow, wouldn't I have egg on my face then, huh
Maybe. But I take comfort in the fact that I'm still above you in the hierarchy of tards, as I will never ever be in a situation where I am both (a) triggered and (b) unable to defend myself.
Maybe. But I take comfort in the fact that I'm still above you in the hierarchy of tards, as "desperate for debate" is way less pathetic than "unable to participate in a debate due to an inability to defend one's position"
You're too much of a coward to actually reply to a comment that you have an issue with and explain what's wrong with it - because then someone might point out what an idiot you are. So instead, you make vague allusions.
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2 MoistLanguage 2020-05-16
At this point 13/50 can be considered the equivalent of Pi for crime statistics because it keeps popping up regardless of the topic measured.
1 SnapshillBot 2020-05-16
The only point you'll ever have is that you represent the sad, fedora-wearing, bloated face of capitalism in the 21st century.
Unfairly made famous and rich through copied ideas and appealing to kids. And yet is driven by some bizarre need for attention to spout insane, teenage edge lord style views. You are clearly not all that up on politics (or anything, maybe you can code?) yet your wealth has given you an oversized platform of confused 12 to 16 year olds to yell "sjwjjwjwj" at over and over again.
Honestly, I don't give a shit if you've been driven mad by fame or some bullshit. When I see amazing creative people dying depressed in poverty every day and you get to sit on twitter and make half assed 'now yur the nazi' comments, it's fucking sickening.
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1 Neon_needles 2020-05-16
Paywall. Lll at you buying a sub.
1 jeffreyjinping 2020-05-16
http://archive.vn/L0yxP
1 MurkDollaSign 2020-05-16
Based.
1 MurkDollaSign 2020-05-16
It still dumbfounds me that people purchase news subscriptions in the current year
1 GM739 2020-05-16
Current year plus 6.
1 ProEvilOperations 2020-05-16
Wait I thought current year was 2015??
1 GM739 2020-05-16
Nah, a lot of this started in 2014 especially with g*mergate.
2 jubbergun 2020-05-16
It started when the bong from The Daily Show got his own show on HBO and started doing his "but it's <current year>" routine to the point it became cliche, which was 2015. No cared about gaymergoat or what some maple-slurping schlub said. This is CY05. Buy a calendar.
1 GM739 2020-05-16
True but I don’t see what your father has to do with any of this.
1 SwiftOnSobriety 2020-05-16
It started when the big boss leaf correctly identified the current year, a feat that no leaf had ever achieved until the year of our lord 2015.
1 GM739 2020-05-16
Imagine thinking a leaf sets the precedent for anything.
1 GTLM94 2020-05-16
Wrong, Current Year is 2015 (0 C.Y.) and is based specifically off of John Oliver.
1 betterdeadthenfed 2020-05-16
No, it’s 2015+5.
1 GM739 2020-05-16
So apparently tons of people are r-slurs here and haven’t really been following politics. I remember it was 2014 because no one would ever shut the fuck up about “it’s the current year!” then when I saw it started going mainstream (which was 2015) I lost it, the meme took on a life of it’s own.
So all you zoomers who keep screaming, “it’s 2015!!!” are wrong and secondly, keep it down, your mother needs her rest from having to deal with NEETs like you and her minimum wage job at Burger King is already bad enough.
So keep googling know your meme or whatever but that’s mainstream shit only a zoomer would know. Boomers like myself know it started in 2014 when the f*id menace really started taking off and just got worse as time went on.
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1 GM739 2020-05-16
Thanks! 🥰
1 Hoes_very_Mad 2020-05-16
That is correct. It's currently $CurrentYear +5
1 WeWuzKANG5 2020-05-16
Literally just google the article title and read it from some other website that's hosting it, boom paywall defeated.
1 vsehorrorshow93 2020-05-16
what are you, a poor?
1 philly_fag 2020-05-16
Imagine willingly giving journos your money 🤢🤮🤮
1 slapdaddybaddy 2020-05-16
The WSJ does not have journos, it employs reporters.
1 slapdaddybaddy 2020-05-16
Sorry you're too poor to pay for quality information.
1 -Acceptable-Risk- 2020-05-16
Imagine not using your sister’s WSJ account without her knowledge 😂
1 clengirl 2020-05-16
imagine having a sister 🤮🤮🤮
1 -Kite-Man- 2020-05-16
You guys have families other than your wives?
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1 Electro_Swoosh 2020-05-16
Imagine having to fuck someone outside of your immediate family because you don't have a sister 🤮🤮🤮
1 Sasanka_Of_Gauda 2020-05-16
Imagine fucking. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
1 tenali-rama 2020-05-16
Imagine imagining 🤮🤮🤮🤮
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1 pandeyji_ka_ladka 2020-05-16
Still not gonna be approved. Lol
Edit: lmao. They added me to the list
1 YoshiKiraKage 2020-05-16
Exactly. And I take pride in that.
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1 Fletch71011 2020-05-16
Pretty unironically brave of the journo to write this. I never thought I'd say that. I look forward to him getting canceled.
1 808nKarkBreak 2020-05-16
The minute you go right you are uncancelable and the money is better. Basically a no brainier.
1 Alicesnakebae 2020-05-16
Yeah if you're a token minority the right literally doesnt need more mayo men
1 a_few 2020-05-16
They might not need them, but you better believe they’ll take em. Leftoids treat their party like an L.A. nightclub on New Year’s Eve.
1 TheLordHighExecu 2020-05-16
Implying the progressive movement isn't white as hell and parading their own tokens
1 -Acceptable-Risk- 2020-05-16
WSJ editorials are always dropping inconvenient truth bombs. It’s a pretty based newspaper (the opinion section, anyway).
1 CosmoSucks 2020-05-16
WSJ have been kind of getting away from being modern journos (idk how else to put it but they are less g@y) recently. Click on their editorial board page and just about everything posted should have gotten them canceled for even thinking the dems have been up to no good.
1 Corporal-Hicks 2020-05-16
WSJ editorial board did very objective piece the other day on the Flynn case
1 ImNotReallyJesus 2020-05-16
Google fired it's diversity department and swept it under the rug. They do not want to appear unaccepting of conservatives.
My personal opinion is the Algo has predicted the republicans winning a super majority in November. Why else would Google and Amazon be more kind to conservatives? The Algo has spoken.
2 YoshiKiraKage 2020-05-16
What did Amazon do to be more kind to conservatives?
1 ImNotReallyJesus 2020-05-16
Wallstreet Journal is owned by...
1 Standard_Order 2020-05-16
...Rupert Murdoch. Are you thinking of Bezos? Because that's the Washington Post.
2 cUmMy_b0mb_thief 2020-05-16
lol, google got rid of their div department cause two former employees tried to sue them for discriminating against those with conservative views. Theyre trying to sweep this under because google doesn't want to give any ideas to others to try and sue them, and they ESPECIALLY dont want to give the gov any more reason/ammo to try and bootyfuck them like they tried to with microsoft and facebook (both dem and rep would KILL to do another hearing spectacle to boost their approval ratings). though it seems to have been a rather pointless move on googles part, since one of the former employees dropped their case cause it was obvious they weren't going to win, with the other likely to follow suit.
1 Detective_Fallacy 2020-05-16
Really? When did that happen?
1 kier00 2020-05-16
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/current-ex-employees-allege-google-drastically-rolled-back-diversity-inclusion-n1206181
2 LombatWombat 2020-05-16
tfw you'll never attend a Sojourn workshop and powerlevel over the outgroup bias of l1beral may0ids
1 Trant2433 2020-05-16
I’d say that the techies at Google have lost their power, and it’s the MBAs calling the shots (which is why Google search sucks more and more every year).
Regardless, I’m guessing a lot of talented developers who may have leaned conservative were tired of being forced to remain quiet and be bullied by all the diversity employees who were hired instead of more deserving white and Asian male techies. Since they don’t have to put up with the bullshit to make good money in SF, they left and the MBAs noticed the quality of the software was tanking.
I see it myself in tech companies in my city. A company doubles down on forcing diversity hires and making staff take bias training and constant virtue signally, feminism, etc - eventually the talent just says enough and quits.
1 Redactor0 2020-05-16
This is slightly more plausible than believing Obama is being held at Guantanamo Bay right now.
1 SamManilla 2020-05-16
The word you might be looking for is "yellow journalism".
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1 mcbrd 2020-05-16
Really? Weird since they started the whole 'pewdiepie is a Nazi' thing.
1 CosmoSucks 2020-05-16
zoomers lmao
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1 Canadapoli 2020-05-16
Imagine believing zoomers 😂😂😂
1 Wewraw 2020-05-16
No shit. It’s owned by Rupert Murdoch and written for people who have jobs.
1 SamManilla 2020-05-16
I'm not sure if people who pay for the wsj, and people who brigade on twitter are often the same.
1 dedekulm 2020-05-16
Twitter mobs can't afford a WSJ subscription in the first place.
You need a six figure income and a stock portfolio for the WSJ to even consider you human.
4 ironicshitpostr 2020-05-16
If you’re not an accredited investor are you really human tho
1 Thereal14words 2020-05-16
as it should be
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1 FreedomKomisarHowze 2020-05-16
The left can only cancel one of their own.
1 hyphenjack 2020-05-16
See guys I told you that there's-
WAIT NO WHAT IS HE DOING YOU CAN'T USE CONTEXT NOOOOOOO
2 LordButtFuck 2020-05-16
Can someone tell me what difference it makes if you adjust it for population size? Sorry I’m a dumbass- I know.
6 LongDongSilvers_ 2020-05-16
It's useful for telling if certain populations are more prone to specific things.
Say you have 100 people and 3 people commit murder, those 3 people were all left handed and there are 6 left handed people out of the 100.
That means that 50% of the left handed community have killed and you track this statistic to see if it continues.
Usually you do this to learn the problems that society has and explore what you can do but in todays world the people on the left pretend it doesn't exist and hand wave any hard data proving otherwise and the people on the right use it to score political points.
No one actually cares about doing something about it, they just want to win.
5 tux_pirata 2020-05-16
Politics as usual
2 MiltonFriedmanisbae1 2020-05-16
Pretty beautiful explanation tbh.
1 GigaVacinator 2020-05-16
something something 13% of the population something something
1 8DnLp7TOGZ 2020-05-16
lmao any resident who’s done an ER rotation will tell you that a majority of firearm-related visits are by black people, i can count on one hand how many times i’ve had a white dude come in with a gunshot wound
1 alexicov 2020-05-16
Haha basic statistics goes <brrr>
1 ChapoDestroyer 2020-05-16
Haha, those sure are some kooky crime statistics you got there! Be a shame if somebody adjusted them for population size 😎
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1 ExMuslim662 2020-05-16
Leftists and context, two sworn enemies
0 Hoodratshit1212 2020-05-16
Okay, let’s use “context” then, and adjust for population size :
There were 2,426 black victims of anti-black hate crimes and 1,038 white victims of anti-white hate crimes in 2018. White people are approx. 76% of the population of 350 million, black people are approx. 13%.
Thats 1,038 total white victims out of 266 million white people.
And 2,426 black victims out of only 45 million black people.
So to adjust for population size, that means:
1 in every 18,550 black people are victims of racially motivated, anti-black hate crimes.
Compared to white victims: 1 out of every 256,260 white people were victims of racially motivated hate crimes.
Is that enough “context” for you, you fucking idiot? 😂
what did that would accomplish for you? Seriously, what did you think adjusting for population size would do ? If white people are the large majority compared to black people and there’s twice as many hate crimes against black people than against white people, what is the point you think you’re making by adjusting to population size?
You literally just don’t know math, ON TOP OF not knowing what the fuck you’re talking about. Sit down.
2 hi_0 2020-05-16
Shut up jogger
1 hyphenjack 2020-05-16
Counting victims will still be affected by population size because you’re drawing from the whole country. The proper method is to take the subset of the population committing hate crimes and analyze that. Per the article
It’s not about the victims, it’s the ones who do the crime, because that will actually glean something other than “minority population is smaller”
But please, tell me more about how I don’t know math
1 rbsh123 2020-05-16
Who the fuck decides if a crime is “anti-black/white?”
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1 Thrallmemayb 2020-05-16
Now do the same math but with perpetrators, "fucking idiot".
1 -Kite-Man- 2020-05-16
Now that is a name that comes with extra mayo
1 HodorLePortePorte 2020-05-16
This is actually the first time I’ve seen a white “Gerard” in the United States.
1 AZN_RISING 2020-05-16
reported for not listening to my chemical romance
1 TheLordHighExecu 2020-05-16
I'm pretty sure you can name one more -- hint: he used to play football
1 2cimarafa 2020-05-16
He’s a bong, unsurprisingly.
1 silentdeadly5 2020-05-16
What did you expect? You’d never see a -stein report this
1 pinche_chupacabron 2020-05-16
His dad manned one of the ovens back in the war.
1 moggedbyall 2020-05-16
Here’s the article:
You will have heard by now of Ahmaud Arbery, the 25-year-old black man shot dead on a street in Brunswick, Ga., in February. Prosecutors initially declined to press charges in the case, saying that the alleged perpetrators, a white father and son, Gregory and Travis McMichael, had used legitimate force. Then video surfaced of the incident in which the unarmed black man is seen running down the street, seems to be confronted by the McMichaels, and is shot at point-blank range by the men, both of whom have now been charged with murder. You probably haven’t heard of Paul and Lidia Marino. The couple, 86 and 85 years old, were shot dead a week ago while visiting a veterans’ cemetery in Bear, Del., where their son, who died in 2017, is buried. The authorities have so far been unable to establish a motive for the killing, but they identified a suspect, Sheldon Francis, a 29-year-old black man, later found dead after an exchange of fire with the police.
As far as I can tell, from news databases and online searches, other than local newspapers and TV, and a brief story by the New York Post, the death of the Marinos, who were white, has gone as unremarked as their lives. Mr. Arbery’s death, by contrast, has become one of those crimes that some who control our public discourse have decided is a “teachable moment.”
Millions of words have been devoted to exploring and explaining the moral of the killing. It has been widely described as a “lynching.” We have been reminded once again of the prevalence of unequal and violent treatment of minorities. We’ve been told once again that the killing reflects the daily reality of life in America for young blacks. This teaching moment has turned into a continuous, ubiquitous lecture series on the unalterably racist nature of America.
We don’t yet know the full facts behind either of these killings. Mr. Arbery’s certainly looked ugly, and whatever his killers and some neighbors allege he may have been doing on that street on a sunny afternoon, he clearly did not deserve to be gunned down. We will learn no doubt soon whether his killers did indeed have racist motives.
Perhaps, meanwhile, the murder of the Marinos was a random act of violence, a deranged killer, a robbery that savagely escalated. But whatever the motive, I’d be willing to wager a small fortune that we won’t hear much more about it.
Some will say that’s as it should be. Mr. Arbery’s killing is simply more representative of the nature of race relations in America.
But from the simple perspective of hate crimes, this isn’t right. According to the latest official data from the Justice Department, there were indeed more than twice as many antiblack hate crimes as there were antiwhite hate crimes in 2018. But if you adjust the figures for the relative size of each group in the total U.S. population, they show that blacks are 50% overrepresented among perpetrators of hate crimes, while whites are about 25% underrepresented.
In a larger sense, some will say, the much greater attention given to white attacks on blacks is justified because of the nature of socioeconomic relations between the races. Certainly, given the nation’s history and continuing social inequalities, a heightened sensitivity should be accorded evidence of racist violence by white people.
But we have gone way beyond heightened sensitivity, to the point of complete distortion of reality. Almost every instance of white violence against minorities is held up now as a bleak model of the state of the nation, while almost every instance of black violence against whites is ignored.
This selective, exclusive narrative isn’t just confined to the typical media channels. It’s embedded in the very way in which most of us acquire knowledge of the world.
Here’s an experiment. If you Google “blacks shot by whites” you get a predictable list of results heavily populated with articles about police violence. Google “whites shot by blacks” and, curiously, you get essentially the same set of results. The Google algorithm doesn’t even seem to acknowledge the possibility of black-on-white violence.
No fair person disputes the proposition that racism remains a continuing reality and blight on American life. But the systematic misrepresentation of the facts, the highly selective choice of stories, the one-sided nature of the reporting and the routine exclusion of countervailing evidence only risk making it worse.
2 artemis_m_oswald 2020-05-16
Lost credibility here. What a rtarded take that shows the author's bias. You could use his exact logic there to say Google doesn't acknowledge whte on bl*ck violence.
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1 Hoes_very_Mad 2020-05-16
What an unfortunate return of a legend
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1 Placenta_Pancake 2020-05-16
🅱️ased
1 Hermaphroshep 2020-05-16
I’ve often wondered if what police are reporting as crime committed by minorities vs majority are using differing language. Is it recorded as a domestic dispute when a wife is killed by her husband? It’s easy to compile certain statistics if you’re only looking for certain terminology. Language has always been used to reframe, to leverage, to move goal posts, etc. for different groups for the same scenario, I’m reminded of the looting vs scavenging thing from Katrina.
Also certain sections of this opinion piece read like a long form version of an Alt-right meme or a typical extreme brigadier post... he honestly said ”%50” without irony (like a brigadier would) and I’m sure he lost just about everyone but internet extremists looking for validation in doing that. It’s mostly done, I assume, to remind people that the web of extremism in America reaches further than a few one dimensional keyboard warriors on social media, because it always has. It is nice to know that through certain language racists out themselves while always seeking validation through their very worn rhetoric, which they are also, always doing. That being said, Louis CK also wants you to think he’s liberal.
Edit: also, planting guns, drugs, filling quotas for arrests and so on. Those numbers can be inflated easily with bodies, and have been in the past, if even those totals can’t be trusted for accuracy.
Edit: also harsh sentences for misdemeanors, aggravating the suspect, preying upon strangers in public, and so on. (Cops are not heroes). There are plenty of ways to get unsuspecting people (even the uninitiated especially) to react through body language and so on, and police are trained for this. Crime becomes nebulous when you frame and manufacture numbers through bodies in bonds.
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1 WeWuzKANG5 2020-05-16
HES GONNA SAY IT!!!!
1 a_few 2020-05-16
DES.....
2 Msmit71 2020-05-16
PITE
2 32624647 2020-05-16
MAKING UP
2 _Snoop_Lyin 2020-05-16
ONLY
1 Lolbertians 2020-05-16
13% OF THE POPULATION
1 911roofer 2020-05-16
African-
1 Sasanka_Of_Gauda 2020-05-16
Americans make up 100% of blacked.com actors?
1 PauI_Blart_Mall_Fart 2020-05-16
pacito
2 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2020-05-16
What is this normie trash?
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1 I_Must_Bust 2020-05-16
Name 'em, champ!
1 lyamc 2020-05-16
Technically Arbery was holding a shotgun when he was shot: the other guy's shotgun.
You can't say he was unarmed now
2 yetanotherbaldcunt 2020-05-16
Another victim of poor gun control 😪
2 WeWuzKANG5 2020-05-16
Goddam dm his legal team.
1 HodorLePortePorte 2020-05-16
lol this is the hottest take I’ve heard so far
1 lyamc 2020-05-16
🔥🌶️🔥
1 whyguitar 2020-05-16
You joke but this will actually be the case
1 lyamc 2020-05-16
Yes
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1 HodorLePortePorte 2020-05-16
Post the entire article for those of us who don’t have a WSJ subscription, on mobile, forgot the password, etc.
1 BasicallyADoctor 2020-05-16
The problem is that most people don't care, aren't personally the victim of any crimes, and aren't really motivated to research anything beyond watching the nightly news before bed. Since the news can only focus on a few things they wind up amplifying single incidents instead of broader trends.
I don't even think it's malicious on their part for the most part. The problem is that they never take a step back and contextualize these sorts of things to make sure that their viewers don't get a warped perspective.
1 Redactor0 2020-05-16
I dunno about other outlets but at CNN they definitely made a conscious decision that they were going to "have a conversation about race in America", which in practice means they would blow up every incident like this as much as possible. It becomes a feedback loop where the more anxiety and paranoia they generate, the easier it is to find some incident they can pass off as a hate crime the next week. I don't believe for a second that everyone at the network is too stupid to understand what they're doing and just fell into this business strategy out of dumb luck.
1 Kind_Apartment 2020-05-16
That which cannot be talked about is being talked about. CANCEL THE AUTHOR!
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1 tasteslikebutter5 2020-05-16
Based and 13/52pilled
1 THEDUBSGUY 2020-05-16
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0 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
𝑯𝑨 𝑯𝑨 𝑯𝑨 𝑯𝑨 /𝑹/𝑫𝑹𝑨𝑴𝑨 𝑰𝑺 𝑺𝑻𝑰𝑳𝑳 𝑨 𝑹𝑨𝑫𝑰𝑪𝑨𝑳𝑳𝒀 𝑪𝑬𝑵𝑻𝑹𝑰𝑺𝑻 𝑺𝑼𝑩𝑹𝑬𝑫𝑫𝑰𝑻, 𝑵𝑶𝑻 𝑨𝑳𝑻-𝑹𝑰𝑮𝑯𝑻, 𝑨𝑵𝑫 𝑻𝑯𝑬 𝑨𝑳𝑳 𝑻𝑯𝑬 𝑻𝑰𝑴𝑬𝑺 𝑻𝑯𝑬 𝑭𝑬𝑴𝑨𝑳𝑬 𝑰𝑴𝑷𝑬𝑹𝑺𝑶𝑵𝑨𝑻𝑶𝑹𝑺 𝑶𝑵 𝑻𝑯𝑬 𝑴𝑶𝑫 𝑻𝑬𝑨𝑴 𝑭𝑼𝑪𝑲𝑬𝑫 𝑾𝑰𝑻𝑯 𝑻𝑯𝑬 𝑺𝑼𝑩 𝑾𝑨𝑺 𝑬𝑭𝑭𝑬𝑪𝑻𝑰𝑽𝑬 𝑰𝑵 𝑷𝑹𝑬𝑺𝑬𝑹𝑽𝑰𝑵𝑮 𝑻𝑯𝑬 𝑩𝑨𝑳𝑨𝑵𝑪𝑬
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1 mcbrd 2020-05-16
First half wrong second half right
Look at deux if you want to see a place that actually leans into rightoid territory
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
blah blah blah but if you call the dramautist far-right he recoils in horror.
2 reseteros 2020-05-16
Team Biden, but still, the shit in articles like this need to be said. If you just got your news from MSNBC, you would think, I dunno, white people committed more hate crimes per capita.
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
My comment isn't about the WSJ article but the state of these comments and subreddit.
1 reseteros 2020-05-16
I think these comments are fine, but yes, this place is leaning right a little much these days. But it's hard, because reddit is going more and more left, so any place that criticizes it is gonna attract trumptards
1 riotouspug 2020-05-16
You're too much of a coward to actually reply to a comment that you have an issue with and explain what's wrong with it - because then someone might point out what an idiot you are. So instead, you make vague allusions.
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
The earnest posting is coming from inside the thread.
1 riotouspug 2020-05-16
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
It's a drama sub, you are the dork who is out of place.
1 riotouspug 2020-05-16
nope. If you had an argument to make, then you would present it as a way of ridiculing me. In the absence of such argument, you call me a "dork" - which, I'll be honest, don't sting quite as much as you'd imagine.
...in response, I'm ridiculing you for being unable to defend yourself. This is how drama subs work.
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
... you don't try to make it seriously in the drama sub. Bring it up at your next Turning Point USA meeting.
1 riotouspug 2020-05-16
You can't though. That's why this is so hilarious.
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
You've never lost an argument in your life, because you never concede or learn anything. Now you are terrified of 12% of the population. For you that is pride, that is victory.
1 riotouspug 2020-05-16
I mean, there was that one time when I was defeated by the power of anime and jesus christ, and everyone stood up and clapped.
I'll be honest with you, it's less about me winning than it is about you losing. I just enjoy pointing at you and saying, hey everyone, look at this guy, he believes things but isn't able to articulate them.
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
You are too anxious to pretend you are enjoying anything.
1 riotouspug 2020-05-16
At first, I was a little worried that I might be wrong, and that you'd actually have some cogent argument. Wow, wouldn't I have egg on my face then, huh
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
People won't take you seriously, even online.
1 riotouspug 2020-05-16
Maybe. But I take comfort in the fact that I'm still above you in the hierarchy of tards, as I will never ever be in a situation where I am both (a) triggered and (b) unable to defend myself.
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
... but you are the one desperate for debate.
1 riotouspug 2020-05-16
Maybe. But I take comfort in the fact that I'm still above you in the hierarchy of tards, as "desperate for debate" is way less pathetic than "unable to participate in a debate due to an inability to defend one's position"
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
Debate what?
1 riotouspug 2020-05-16
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/gkvahp/the_wsj_pulls_out_the_statistics/fqvulps/?context=1
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
... there is no debate.
1 riotouspug 2020-05-16
You're too much of a coward to actually reply to a comment that you have an issue with and explain what's wrong with it - because then someone might point out what an idiot you are. So instead, you make vague allusions.
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
The ruling class know what I am referring to, no reason to break it down for the people on the margins.
1 riotouspug 2020-05-16
when you're 80 and senile, mumbling crazy things will be endearing
1 SandorClegane_AMA 2020-05-16
Well you have stooped to name calling, which is proof you lost the argument.
1 riotouspug 2020-05-16
no, I didn't call you any names.