Nah son, Abraham Lincoln didn’t care about freeing slaves, he couldn’t let the section of the country (the south) that fed the rest of the country keep using free labor to grow unchecked. The south was on its way to being its own country.
LMAO.
Abraham Lincoln didn’t care about freeing slaves, he couldn’t let the section of the country (the south) that fed the rest of the country keep using free labor to grow unchecked
Tell me what part of my comment contradicted that? I know not everyone in the north was an abolitionist, that doesn’t change what I said at all. Nice try though, kid.
Go back to school and find out how the states that illegally seceded from the country, shot first against the opposition, and fought to keep slavery were definitely the aggressive ones.
it is beneficial for the economy because it increases tourism and if I understand - is a major tourist attraction
Well Martin Luther King beat his wife, so I don't see why it matters if 2 of the US presidents were slaveholders nor if the sculptor had strong ties with KKK.
All land as far as I am concerned was owned by Natives originally, so lets not talk about how this is so controversial when Natives have been fucked over constantly and never having their voices heard
... I'm too busy to think of more low-effort responses because I am jerking off
To OP: NEVER, EVER THREATEN /r/DRAMA AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!
What actually grinds my gears is how white liberals characterize native Americans as some monolithic, Earth worshiping hunter gatherer children who got wronged by the white man's dirty tricks.
Native Americans got hit with 3000 years of epidemics from Europe at once in the 1500 and 1600s. It completely wiped out the population and took most of their stability and economic structures down with it. We didn't even understand basic microbiology, let alone epidemiology at the time.
Land that tribes "claimed" was often completely deserted. As it had been depopulated decades or centuries before. Not too mention the near constant endemic warfare between tribes already compounding the problem.
I don't think the US government handled the situation well, and it committed many atrocities (wounded knee) and diplomatic fuck yous (Laramie treaty), but the Lakota were not saints either. They took the black hills by force from other tribes. They also routinely attacked settlers on the Oregon trail.
They simply could not enforce the claims they made. It sucks but that is nation/empire building 101, especially in the late 1800s when territorial acquisition was at a fever pitch over the entire world.
Practically every single colonial power did shit that was wayyyyyyy fucking worse than how the US handled it. To compare it to the East Indian Company, European colonies in Africa, Russian expansioism, Japanese expansionism, or Ottoman's putting down rebellions is absurd.
Why can't we talk about this shit not only realistically, but also in context to the world at the time?
A lot of it stems from white guilt and the famous white man's burden. They think of natives as noble savages that were corrupted by the big bad Europeans. Little do they know of how bloodthirsty and warmongering many tribes were and how they treated their captured victims. Shit was downright brutal from burning entire villages with people still in them, scalping heads, mass rapes of women, butchering babies, decapitation and dismemberments, cannibalism etc.. If only these guilt tripping idiots had read the shit some of these tribes did like the Comanche or the Apache they'd be dumbfounded.
Nice pick with those tribes, also Sioux and Iroquois. When the settlers asked the natives their name they said We are the people. Ok, who are they? They are the enemy. Iroquois, Comanche, Sioux, and Apache all mean enemy in other tribes language. That is why the Sioux try so hard to be called Lakota, the word for friend.
They also routinely attacked settlers on the Oregon trail.
Feel like that doesn't really count against them tbh, if China just started settling the less populated parts of England like Northumbria I think they'd also get attacked.
Regardless, who gives a shit, this is a protest about transforming America from an English-speaking latin American country to a European one, i.e. a country that doesn't have tanks and semi-automatic weapons in the hands of local cops that act as occupying paramilitaries.
How both the UK and the US managed to take their respective protests and transform them within weeks into a statue-based culture war is beyond me; the Anglo r@ce has once again shown itself to be incapable of doing anything productive or interesting.
It's that episode of It's Always Sunny where Mac and Charlie physically cannot take emotion out of an argument and, in fact, want to scream and yell at and insult whoever they're arguing with. That's how these people are. There is no arguing with them.
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8 wizdumb337 2020-07-02
They really want a civil war don't they?
1 NZVikingRugger 2020-07-02
No, they actually think erasing history is a good thing.
6 Things_Remote 2020-07-02
People love to, rightfully, point out how the south lost the war but never bring up the fact that the natives also got dunked on. Suspect.
2 wizdumb337 2020-07-02
If anyone deserves reparations it's the firewater drinkers.
1 AmericanRomanticism 2020-07-02
It’s because the south started a war based on the oppression and enslavement of an entire race. They were rightfully dunked on.
Meanwhile the natives got genocided just because some Europeans wanted some more land.
1 AccioHermionesIUD 2020-07-02
Nah son, Abraham Lincoln didn’t care about freeing slaves, he couldn’t let the section of the country (the south) that fed the rest of the country keep using free labor to grow unchecked. The south was on its way to being its own country. LMAO.
https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommaterials/connections/abraham-lincoln-papers/thinking3.html
1 AmericanRomanticism 2020-07-02
Tell me what part of my comment contradicted that? I know not everyone in the north was an abolitionist, that doesn’t change what I said at all. Nice try though, kid.
1 bertli 2020-07-02
John brown started the war of northern aggression Yankee
1 AmericanRomanticism 2020-07-02
https://i.imgur.com/bjbUlZ7.jpg
1 bertli 2020-07-02
Did I say fort Sumter ?????????? I said John brown. Go back to elementary school and improve your reading comprehension r-slur
1 AmericanRomanticism 2020-07-02
Go back to school and find out how the states that illegally seceded from the country, shot first against the opposition, and fought to keep slavery were definitely the aggressive ones.
1 bertli 2020-07-02
IDK man bleeding Kansas and Harper's ferry happened chronological before Dixieland fought back.
1 AmericanRomanticism 2020-07-02
Idk man neither of those occurrences included the confederate states or the US military so it seems entirely irrelevant to the discussion 🤔
Also, in both of those instances, the freeing of slaves was the primary motive. Seems like a just cause to me.
1 xeyrio 2020-07-02
lmao imagine thinking the south started the war simply because of slavery you retard
1 AmericanRomanticism 2020-07-02
Imagine thinking the south didn’t start the war 😂
1 xeyrio 2020-07-02
shut up yankee
1 AmericanRomanticism 2020-07-02
“Hur dur I have no argument so I must resort to ineffective name calling”
That’s what you sound like rn
1 xeyrio 2020-07-02
your cat is ugly as fuck
1 AmericanRomanticism 2020-07-02
Lol I don’t have a cat you dumb weirdo. Stop trying to run away from the actual subject you crybaby
4 dramasutra2020 2020-07-02
3 TrailerParkRide 2020-07-02
Goober weighs in.
1 GeminiRocket 2020-07-02
https://youtu.be/aRQFli6zMh4
Reparations for the scalps when? Also don't give Mount Rushmore, if it's a sacred mountain or something they will build a casino on it.
https://media.tenor.com/images/4a4770a87096987d8068cffdbc909689/tenor.gif
1 tejanx 2020-07-02
he almost sounds coherent
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1 FagglePuss 2020-07-02
ah fuck I should've visited when I had the chance.
1 bareballzthebitch 2020-07-02
just try it libtards
1 Amour_cok 2020-07-02
Sis We’ll replace it with Beyoncé, Noname, Angela Davis, and a black trans girl💅🏿💅🏿💅🏻
1 StrategicReserve 2020-07-02
What actually grinds my gears is how white liberals characterize native Americans as some monolithic, Earth worshiping hunter gatherer children who got wronged by the white man's dirty tricks.
Native Americans got hit with 3000 years of epidemics from Europe at once in the 1500 and 1600s. It completely wiped out the population and took most of their stability and economic structures down with it. We didn't even understand basic microbiology, let alone epidemiology at the time.
Land that tribes "claimed" was often completely deserted. As it had been depopulated decades or centuries before. Not too mention the near constant endemic warfare between tribes already compounding the problem.
I don't think the US government handled the situation well, and it committed many atrocities (wounded knee) and diplomatic fuck yous (Laramie treaty), but the Lakota were not saints either. They took the black hills by force from other tribes. They also routinely attacked settlers on the Oregon trail.
They simply could not enforce the claims they made. It sucks but that is nation/empire building 101, especially in the late 1800s when territorial acquisition was at a fever pitch over the entire world.
Practically every single colonial power did shit that was wayyyyyyy fucking worse than how the US handled it. To compare it to the East Indian Company, European colonies in Africa, Russian expansioism, Japanese expansionism, or Ottoman's putting down rebellions is absurd.
Why can't we talk about this shit not only realistically, but also in context to the world at the time?
1 wizdumb337 2020-07-02
Sir this is a methadone clinic
1 Chapose 2020-07-02
Its easier to just say 'racist' and get woke points.
1 FoidBlaster 2020-07-02
A lot of it stems from white guilt and the famous white man's burden. They think of natives as noble savages that were corrupted by the big bad Europeans. Little do they know of how bloodthirsty and warmongering many tribes were and how they treated their captured victims. Shit was downright brutal from burning entire villages with people still in them, scalping heads, mass rapes of women, butchering babies, decapitation and dismemberments, cannibalism etc.. If only these guilt tripping idiots had read the shit some of these tribes did like the Comanche or the Apache they'd be dumbfounded.
1 NZVikingRugger 2020-07-02
Nice pick with those tribes, also Sioux and Iroquois. When the settlers asked the natives their name they said We are the people. Ok, who are they? They are the enemy. Iroquois, Comanche, Sioux, and Apache all mean enemy in other tribes language. That is why the Sioux try so hard to be called Lakota, the word for friend.
1 ConfusedLittleChild 2020-07-02
Feel like that doesn't really count against them tbh, if China just started settling the less populated parts of England like Northumbria I think they'd also get attacked. Regardless, who gives a shit, this is a protest about transforming America from an English-speaking latin American country to a European one, i.e. a country that doesn't have tanks and semi-automatic weapons in the hands of local cops that act as occupying paramilitaries.
How both the UK and the US managed to take their respective protests and transform them within weeks into a statue-based culture war is beyond me; the Anglo r@ce has once again shown itself to be incapable of doing anything productive or interesting.
1 ThrowawayCRank 2020-07-02
Difference is the UK has the force to prevent China from building settlements in Northumbria.
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1 Mrtheliger 2020-07-02
It's that episode of It's Always Sunny where Mac and Charlie physically cannot take emotion out of an argument and, in fact, want to scream and yell at and insult whoever they're arguing with. That's how these people are. There is no arguing with them.
1 IAmUtterlyFucked 2020-07-02
We really need people to start a petition for some Troid to be sculpted on there.
Imagine the seethe and drama we'd get through that.
1 AnotherLibtardRekt 2020-07-02
Make it a White supremacist trans woman for even more seethe, also candace Owens or something
1 jannitalia 2020-07-02
Blaire White + Candace Owens + Nikki Haley + Abigail Shapiro
I can already smell the seething!
Abi's nose and breasts will be a challenge however, they might have to mount a supporting structure underneath.
1 AnotherLibtardRekt 2020-07-02
This would anger the MDEs too but the neocons will be extra hard
1 contentedserf 2020-07-02
Abby would be a compromise for the MDEtards
1 runmeupmate 2020-07-02
Seconded for Abi
1 jannitalia 2020-07-02
Oooooh, this is so sweet
Live by the woke, die by the woke!
1 UnheardIdentity 2020-07-02
It's named after the city of York not the house.
1 MOE-17 2020-07-02
Damn imagine if they actually destroy mount rushmore
1 SnapagatorReborn 2020-07-02
I feel like we've been here before. Weren't Ghazi salivating at thought of knocking it down a few years ago?
1 Rivea_ 2020-07-02
What the actual fuck are the NYT doing in currentyear?
1 ironicshitpostr 2020-07-02
Getting clicks
1 Verpiss_Dich 2020-07-02
Their subscriber count is 📉 so they gotta start publishing this trash to make up for it
1 MaskOffGlovesOn 2020-07-02
how are you supposed to cancel a mountain
1 tHeSiD 2020-07-02
Why is twatter showing me this lmao
Mommy president
Corn pop 👏
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1 _NoHype 2020-07-02
Why is the slippery slope always true?
1 Pepperglue 2020-07-02
I am starting to think this is all a ploy so we can no longer criticize Muslims for blowing up pagan statues and ancient ruins.