Has anyone read "Notes from the Underground" by Dostoevsky? (Not Drama)
1 2020-07-03 by hungarianmeatslammer
Me neither. I did listen to it though and loved it. I have no one else to share my love of it with so here you go. (🛑 WORDS WORDS WORDS Warning!🛑)
Anyway, the main character is an r/drama poster from the mid 1800's. Some choice quotes for your new motivational screensavers:
“I am a sick man...I am a spiteful man. An unattractive man. I think that my liver hurts.”
“...there is no explaining anything by reasoning and so it is useless to reason.”
“I agree that two and two make four is an excellent thing; but to give everything its due, two and two make five is also a very fine thing.”
“I am to blame because, first of all, I am cleverer than anybody else around me.”
“You know the direct, legitimate fruit of consciousness is inertia, that is, conscious sitting-with-the-hands-folded. I have referred to this already. I repeat, I repeat with emphasis: all “direct” persons and men of action are active just because they are stupid and limited.”
“As for my own personal opinion. I find it somehow unseemly to love only well-being. Whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, smashing things is also sometimes very pleasant. I am not standing up for suffering, or for well-being either. I am standing up for my own caprices and for having them guaranteed when necessary.”
“I say, let the world perish, if I can always drink my tea.”
“The best definition of man is: a being that goes on two legs and is ungrateful.”
“I swear to you gentlemen, that to be overly conscious is a sickness, a real, thorough sickness.”
“I've never been a coward at heart, although I've always been a coward in action;”
“How can a man of consciousness have the slightest respect for himself”
“an intelligent man cannot become anything seriously, and it is only the fool who becomes anything.”
“Now answer me, sincerely, honestly, who lives past forty? I'll tell you who does: fools and scoundrels.”
“Oh, gentlemen, do you know, perhaps I consider myself an intelligent man, only because all my life I have been able neither to begin nor to finish anything. Granted I am a babbler, a harmless vexatious babbler, like all of us. But what is to be done if the direct and sole vocation of every intelligent man is babble, that is, the intentional pouring of water through a sieve?”
“It was from feeling oneself that one had reached the last barrier, that it was horrible, but that it could not be otherwise; that there was no escape for you; that you never could become a different man; that even if time and faith were still left you to change into something different you would most likely not wish to change; or if you did wish to, even then you would do nothing; because perhaps in reality there was nothing for you to change into.”
“You know the direct, legitimate fruit of consciousness is inertia, that is, conscious sitting-with-the-hands-folded. I have referred to this already. I repeat, I repeat with emphasis: all “direct” persons and men of action are active just because they are stupid and limited. How explain that? I will tell you:”
“The pleasure came precisely from being too clearly aware of your own degradation; from the feeling of having gone to the uttermost limits; that it is was vile, but it could not have been otherwise; that you could not escape, you could never make yourself into a different person” “Do you ask why I tortured and tormented myself? The answer is that it was too boring to sit and do nothing, and so I indulged my fancy.”
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1 SnapshillBot 2020-07-03
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1 TaysSecondGussy 2020-07-03
I didn’t read your post yet, sorry not sorry. Was The Idiot with reading? I never finished it. Compared to Bros and Crime and Punishment it just wasn’t clicking. It felt like he was too hungry and desperate while writing it, but it didn’t inspire better writing. Maybe I’ll try again.
1 hungarianmeatslammer 2020-07-03
It's all good. It's a lot of words. I thought The Idiot was good but clearly not his best work. This is the 5th book of his that I have consumed.
Notes from the Underground
The Brothers Karamazov
Demons
The Idiot
Crime and Punishment
All are absolute masterpieces compared to contemporary fiction but I had my preferences. You should check out Demons. It doesn't get a lot of love but its an underrated gem and is really relevant right now with all the protests and cultural revolution going on right now.
1 HoBoLoBro 2020-07-03
Your order is mine except I place C&P at number 2 and TBK is at 6 while The Double takes its place at 5.
Notes is such a brilliant fucking piece of work. Manages to achieve timeless social commentary of a low value manlet seething at the world and his place in it. No book has made me feel such rage and joy at the same time within the span of mere sentences.
Also, you listen to books? What are you, a fucking child?
1 hungarianmeatslammer 2020-07-03
I haven't read a book in a while because I am r-slurred plus I like listening to posh British men reading books to me instead of that naggy voice in my head.
1 MagicHoudini 2020-07-03
It never even began.
You don’t need that and I don’t do it. There are apparently exercises to get rid of it online.
I never had that problem so I don’t know but someone somewhere posted about it.
1 hungarianmeatslammer 2020-07-03
i feel like that voice is so ingrained in my head from smoking so much weed when I was younger. That voice is so damn prominent when I am baked. I started smoking weed daily way too early. From like 12-23 I was consistently stoned so my brain developed that way. I don't know if I could ever fix it.
1 MagicHoudini 2020-07-03
It’s normal, really. It’s something that people get while learning how to read and it can be reversed. I do it only sometimes, mainly with comics.
1 mqL49J 2020-07-03
Just lol if your dogbrain doesn't automatically add breathy autistic timbre or homolisp to certain dramaposters, even without noticing the username.
1 somegurk 2020-07-03
What the fuck is this?
1 MagicHoudini 2020-07-03
Take out the hyphens. I believe in you.
1 somegurk 2020-07-03
I actually really like The Idiot, like I can see its definitely not his best book but in some ways its my favorite.
1 TaysSecondGussy 2020-07-03
Oh wow, I’ll give Notes a go then, thanks.
1 Kaladin_MemeBlessed 2020-07-03
Read white nights If you want decent lit
1 JRPGMAFIA 2020-07-03
Demons is an absolute classic.
1 DasFarris 2020-07-03
I've read the Idiot and I'm working on the Brothers Karamazov. I've got a copy of the Possessed (I think that's just an alternate english name for Demons) and that's next on the list.
1 VALIS666 2020-07-03
I can dig the liver hurting one, mistress alcohol is very kind and cruel, but a fuck ton of milk thistle lately and it's back to it's normal size, done and done. Imagine living when there were no Amazon Subscribe & Save supplements lol 19th century gulagcels.
1 VALIS666 2020-07-03
Fistfuls of milk thistle, dog. Imagine being a 19th century gulagcel without access to Amazon Subscribe & Save.
1 lilalaber 2020-07-03
I am reading Dostojewskis the idiot right now and it's unironically a wonderful book. One of the best I've read.
1 snowkarl 2020-07-03
The Brothers Karamazov is unironically one of the most engaging books I've read
90% of good literature is written pre 1950 CMV
1 lilalaber 2020-07-03
Big brain time: more than 90% of literary history happened before 1950.
1 snowkarl 2020-07-03
the remaining 10%? Harry Potter. Truly the work of our generation.
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1 Shubard75 2020-07-03
No good books were ever written until Patty Duke's 1987 autobiography
1 based_and_tedpilled 2020-07-03
that book is amazing, my favorite book of his by far
1 _zealot_ 2020-07-03
One of my favorite books and should be studied by most young men.
Whenever I pitch the book to friends I always say "It'll describe parts of your own thinking better than you yourself could, and then proceed to poke massive holes in it showing how much of a big fat narcissistic loser you actually are. It's great."
Most people don't read it.
1 TaysSecondGussy 2020-07-03
The way he delineated the eternal failson in several of his books is very uncomfortable to read.
“I wish there was a classic novel with me as the protagonist, my mistakes and little flaws would be much more sympathetic if it were laid out with context I bet.”
Monkey paw finger curls
1 hungarianmeatslammer 2020-07-03
People that take themselves way too seriously can't handle that level of cognitive dissonance.
1 Copeshit 2020-07-03
Are Dostoyevsky audiobooks any good? I'm too lazy to read wordswordswords but listening to audiobooks while I take a shit may be good way to start with Do
1 Corporal-Hicks 2020-07-03
You missed the greatest quote of the book, and possibly of his entire work, that wrecks commies to their core " Sign up My Books Browse ▾ Community ▾ Join Goodreads and meet your next favorite book! Sign Up Now
Shower upon him every earthly blessing, drown him in bliss so that nothing but bubbles would dance on the surface of his bliss, as on a sea...and even then every man, out of sheer ingratitude, sheer libel, would play you some loathsome trick. He would even risk his cakes and would deliberately desire the most fatal rubbish, the most uneconomical absurdity, simply to introduce into all this positive rationality his fatal fantastic element...simply in order to prove to himself that men still are men and not piano keys."
1 Zozbot 2020-07-03
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1 CoolsterMcgee 2020-07-03
Read that in Petersons voice because he's lectured on it
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1 hungarianmeatslammer 2020-07-03
I actually did have the long version of that quote on here thats a couple of paragraphs but I cut it before I posted it. It seemed like it was way too much WORDS WORDS WORDS and I thought seeing another two paragraphs of text would dissuade people from reading the post.
1 MagicHoudini 2020-07-03
OT but I just finished reading “Limonov” by Carrere and I actually loved it.
1 BerniesFatCock 2020-07-03
Isn't that book about cleaning your room or some shit?
1 ponypopper 2020-07-03
as someone with autism, the underground man 100% has aspergers. but yeah its unironically one of my favorite books ever.
I highly recommend reading Sarasine by Balzac, i think you would like it
1 Fughtmeulilbitch 2020-07-03
Never heard of this one I’ll try to read it this weekend. Thanks for the recommendation
1 Sinestram 2020-07-03
One of the first books i've read when i was a teenager, i genuinely can say it affected me deeply.When he talks shit about his own vulnerabilities and shortcoming within only his perspective, you clearly can see how he fills up his bussy at the same time. Pleasure of self criticism makes me want to say "post-modernizm lmao"
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1 PUBLIQclopAccountant 2020-07-03
Since when is this /r/books? Or is this /r/bookscirclejerk? I never learned to read.
1 Brokenhardstyler 2020-07-03
Arr books wouldn't like this because it isn't 1984 or YA and bookscirclejerk would screech about the fact that Dostoevsky was a man
1 Shubard75 2020-07-03
I couldn't even finish reading this post I'm not reading a wholeass manifesto
1 YourLocalMonarchist 2020-07-03
NERD
1 CoolsterMcgee 2020-07-03
Here's a link to the audio book if you're interested like I am.
HQ post op
https://youtu.be/8a8xw4YO6AA
1 hungarianmeatslammer 2020-07-03
Thanks 😉😘💕
1 Aishas_9yo_Consent 2020-07-03
Wasn't he white 🤢
1 hungarianmeatslammer 2020-07-03
He's Russian.
1 CoolsterMcgee 2020-07-03
I picked it up and I just got done with the first chapter. If this book was written today by a redditor it would be called "TrueIncelOffMyChest."
1 Outdated_CPU_1 2020-07-03
Can I get the book online or do I have to exert effort and pay money?
1 hungarianmeatslammer 2020-07-03
Heres the youtube audiobook, or you can use Audible. If you want to actually read, I am sure a PDF of the book is pretty easy to find if you look for it.
1 Outdated_CPU_1 2020-07-03
koszonom
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