Good. Property is an investment and investments carry risk. It’s ridiculous how landlords are now whining that there’s a possibility they may not make money for once.
To be fair this sort of risk is probably not expected. Normal risk would be tenets trashing the place and not being able to recover enough money from them.
Not being able to execute evictions because of state regulation is probably not expected.
None of this is expected. It's a goddamn pandemic. Which is exactly why the government is supposed to be stepping in - there should be rent and mortgage relief, business grants to cover lost revenue, better supported unemployment situation, etc. Some of that has been done, but clearly this business sector was not represented or supported enough.
I both still have a job and keep about a years worth of expenses in my checking account. But 80% of the country lives paycheck to paycheck and that is the reality we have to work with.
80% of the country shouldn't be sucking off Funko pops and upgrading to a new iPhone yearly.
I was over 20k in credit card debt from being a dumb teen/young adult years ago. I got myself in about 2 years by being diligent and giving every dollar a purpose.
I don’t give a fuck about your life story or how you are slightly less retarded than you were a few years ago. This is a time for pragmatism, not wishful ideology-driven austerity measures that end up fucking all of us in the ass.
This is totally true but it also cuts the other way since no individual could have ever expected they might be facing homelessness and an inability to pay their bills because someone in China didn’t wash their hands good enough after leaving the bioweapons lab.
Sure, but that’s the risk of owning rental property as an investment. Sometimes unexpected things happen and/or the government steps in for better or worse.
It happens to commodity markets and stock markets too.
but then by your logic the same goes for renters that signed a lease and then cant pay rent, they knew the risk that they might not be able to pay rent and accepted the consequences for it when they signed that contract, so they deserve to be evicted. youre such a hypocrite
next time you break a contract and are facing consequences, try arguing "sometimes unexpected things happen" as an excuse lol
How bout people just stop living beyond their means. I feel bad if someone is living paycheck-to-paycheck and is below the poverty tbh, otherwise they just bad with money imo.
I'm not gonna pretend landlords can't get scummy but if you built your business around "okay I'll receive money from these people at this rate and if they become too much of a liability I can charge them more or remove them to secure my month-to-month" then suddenly the government tells you that this precariously placed safety net no longer applies, I imagine you'd be pretty pissed.
if six months of no rent puts them under buying property was probably a pretty awful financial decision for them to begin with.
> Six months of no income would put almost any business under water...
> Clearly the business should have had diversified stocks, several pieces of real estate and over a million in the bank in order to survive the global pandemic!
You should typically have some sort of cushion or be diversified in other assets before deciding to sink any significant amount of your net worth into a non primary residential property, yes.
but totally fine to sign a rent contract though even if you cant pay the rent lmao, the double standard is hilarious.
NIMBYism and zoning laws are the obvious problem for any economically literate individual, but that is too much to expect from a person who rejects basic supply and demand
Also conventional knowledge says one should have a year’s living expenses in cash. I would think your typical landlord is in a better position (even if they’re small) to have this in place than your typical tenant.
So the landlord is supposed to be able to cover a years worth of rent for each unit, but the tenant isn’t?
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1 hmunkey 2020-07-04
Good. Property is an investment and investments carry risk. It’s ridiculous how landlords are now whining that there’s a possibility they may not make money for once.
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1 kevindurantalt 2020-07-04
This is landphobia. Go home, educate yourself, and when you call back we can talk like educated adults who own property.
1 Eternal_Mr_Bones 2020-07-04
To be fair this sort of risk is probably not expected. Normal risk would be tenets trashing the place and not being able to recover enough money from them.
Not being able to execute evictions because of state regulation is probably not expected.
1 kermit_was_wrong 2020-07-04
None of this is expected. It's a goddamn pandemic. Which is exactly why the government is supposed to be stepping in - there should be rent and mortgage relief, business grants to cover lost revenue, better supported unemployment situation, etc. Some of that has been done, but clearly this business sector was not represented or supported enough.
1 noPENGSinALASKA 2020-07-04
Hahaha.
Money printer go brrrrrrrr
Maybe you should have a savings, or find a job to work during the pandemic if you don't have said savings...
1 kermit_was_wrong 2020-07-04
I both still have a job and keep about a years worth of expenses in my checking account. But 80% of the country lives paycheck to paycheck and that is the reality we have to work with.
1 noPENGSinALASKA 2020-07-04
80% of the country shouldn't be sucking off Funko pops and upgrading to a new iPhone yearly.
I was over 20k in credit card debt from being a dumb teen/young adult years ago. I got myself in about 2 years by being diligent and giving every dollar a purpose.
1 kermit_was_wrong 2020-07-04
I don’t give a fuck about your life story or how you are slightly less retarded than you were a few years ago. This is a time for pragmatism, not wishful ideology-driven austerity measures that end up fucking all of us in the ass.
1 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2020-07-04
This is totally true but it also cuts the other way since no individual could have ever expected they might be facing homelessness and an inability to pay their bills because someone in China didn’t wash their hands good enough after leaving the bioweapons lab.
1 Eternal_Mr_Bones 2020-07-04
Yeah I agree and I think not allowing evictions until the situation is stabilized is reasonable.
I just disagree with the brainlet above saying "Lol fuck landlords buying houses is risky."
1 ponypopper 2020-07-04
if you cant pay the rent you shouldnt have signed the lease, its not the landlords fault you can just stop paying rent and get away with it now
1 hmunkey 2020-07-04
When did I say otherwise?
1 ponypopper 2020-07-04
so you agree that this is unfair to landlords?
1 hmunkey 2020-07-04
Sure, but that’s the risk of owning rental property as an investment. Sometimes unexpected things happen and/or the government steps in for better or worse.
It happens to commodity markets and stock markets too.
1 ponypopper 2020-07-04
but then by your logic the same goes for renters that signed a lease and then cant pay rent, they knew the risk that they might not be able to pay rent and accepted the consequences for it when they signed that contract, so they deserve to be evicted. youre such a hypocrite
next time you break a contract and are facing consequences, try arguing "sometimes unexpected things happen" as an excuse lol
1 UnheardIdentity 2020-07-04
That's what evictions are for. The government is messing with perfectly legal contracts that two groups explicitly agreed.
1 EnvironmentalCrow5 2020-07-04
This. People should also demand a bailout every time their speculative shitcoin holdings go tits up.
1 IraqiLobster 2020-07-04
I demand the federal reserve buy my expired 6/19 SPY puts
1 The_Lolcow_whisperer 2020-07-04
Serious posting on drama🤢
1 Babiski 2020-07-04
Living paycheck-to-paycheck except u own things so we no feel bad for u
1 kermit_was_wrong 2020-07-04
This is one of those "both sides" things that just keeps on giving.
Reality is, anyone living paycheck to paycheck is on thin ice - whether individual, sole proprietor, or a corporation.
1 Matthew94 2020-07-04
Why can't we just make being poor illegal?
1 kermit_was_wrong 2020-07-04
We need them to do the shit jobs for low pay.
1 Matthew94 2020-07-04
Prison labour dude.
1 kermit_was_wrong 2020-07-04
Too expensive.
1 Your_Freud 2020-07-04
Based slavery
1 ComfyCoconut 2020-07-04
How bout people just stop living beyond their means. I feel bad if someone is living paycheck-to-paycheck and is below the poverty tbh, otherwise they just bad with money imo.
1 NumerousEvent 2020-07-04
I'm eagerly awaiting the shocked Pikachu faces when more rentals get converted to condos and rents go up even more.
1 CCAlkie 2020-07-04
I'm not gonna pretend landlords can't get scummy but if you built your business around "okay I'll receive money from these people at this rate and if they become too much of a liability I can charge them more or remove them to secure my month-to-month" then suddenly the government tells you that this precariously placed safety net no longer applies, I imagine you'd be pretty pissed.
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1 I_Shah 2020-07-04
All landchads are hecking valid
1 ponypopper 2020-07-04
but totally fine to sign a rent contract though even if you cant pay the rent lmao, the double standard is hilarious.
1 celtic16 2020-07-04
They’re just chapos. People who drink cases of New England IPAs.
1 cfbWORKING 2020-07-04
Serious post, it’s remarkable how r-slurred people are.
1 IraqiLobster 2020-07-04
NIMBYism and zoning laws are the obvious problem for any economically literate individual, but that is too much to expect from a person who rejects basic supply and demand
1 AnnoyinTheGoyim 2020-07-04
So the landlord is supposed to be able to cover a years worth of rent for each unit, but the tenant isn’t?
1 YourBrainIsDumb 2020-07-04
smdh he should have had an emergency fund that covers 6 years of expenses
there are too many irresponsible landlords not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps