You know I think its pretty safe to say that what the Spaniards did to the Mayans, the Incas, and most other groups of natives that they subjugated was pretty bad and in many cases downright genocidal.
The Aztecs though? People tend to forget that Cortez and his men weren’t really the guys who brought down the Aztecs, it was the fuck-huge rebellion of almost all of the Aztec’s vassal states that brought them down. No one liked the Aztecs.
You know I think its pretty safe to say that what the Spaniards did to the Mayans, the Incas, and most other groups of natives that they subjugated was pretty bad and in many cases downright genocidal.
Agreed. They were brutal bastards. They'd force the natives to mine silver and most would die in the mines.
Of course all that extra silver ended up tanking the Spanish economy 😂😂
Turns out aggressively raiding all your neighbors and mass executing them in gruesome ritual sacrifice makes everyone hate you, to the point they'll help some weird aliens in shiny suits with boomsticks if it helps knock down your civilization.
The Aztecs were playing 40K and worshipped Khorne.
Mezoamerica was a schizo's paradise and if I build a time machine I'm playing hip ball with my enemies heads in a jaguar skin. But I'm bringing trap music and PAWGs
Peyote and bloodsports for days... who's coming with?
Such a shame, a chance to make fun of the average redditors absolutely borked knowledge of history turned into another lefty seethe sub
If I could ping ByzantineBasileus though I'd call him an alright guy, he actually makes fun of bad history and doesn't just post "OMG A RIGHTOID POSTED A WRONG!!!"
If I could ping ByzantineBasileus though I'd call him an alright guy, he actually makes fun of bad history and doesn't just post "OMG A RIGHTOID POSTED A WRONG!!!"
I'd ping this fellow and tell him he's too good for that shithole.
If I stumbled upon a bloodthirsty people who conducted ritual human sacrifice on the regular and kept human bones as household items and decoration, I would probably think they needed to be utterly destroyed to. These Spaniards were baste.
I know orthos kiss skulls and what not, but I doubt they are carving out still beating hearts with an obsidian knife on the top of a square shaped pyramids.
Ah, gotcha. Well thanks for the info and religion is wild...history is wild. I wanna know more about mezoamerica.
Also it's wild to think a schizoposter like me could have led an army. Like children's crusade, Joan of arc, etc. Idk if they had legit delusions like me or were just politically savvy.
That was not ritual sacrifice though. It was for actual criminals or crimes. Dubious as the accusation may have sometimes been, there were at least reserved for punishment to evil-doers, and not just because it was another Wednesday or to make sure the sun would rise in the morning.
I’m pretty sure Aztecs used the Tlaxcalans as a source for their human sacrifices which is one reason Tlaxcalans hated them enough to convert to Christianity in order to ally with the Spaniards against them. But I’ll take your word for it as I don’t know or care enough about extinct tribes wandering in and around the Yucatán 500 years ago.
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2 Zero5urvivers 2020-07-13
You know I think its pretty safe to say that what the Spaniards did to the Mayans, the Incas, and most other groups of natives that they subjugated was pretty bad and in many cases downright genocidal.
The Aztecs though? People tend to forget that Cortez and his men weren’t really the guys who brought down the Aztecs, it was the fuck-huge rebellion of almost all of the Aztec’s vassal states that brought them down. No one liked the Aztecs.
1 Tirt_ROY 2020-07-13
Agreed. They were brutal bastards. They'd force the natives to mine silver and most would die in the mines.
Of course all that extra silver ended up tanking the Spanish economy 😂😂
2 sonofbaal_tbc 2020-07-13
so they were basically an average russian serf
poor babies
1 -Sulla-Felix- 2020-07-13
Turns out aggressively raiding all your neighbors and mass executing them in gruesome ritual sacrifice makes everyone hate you, to the point they'll help some weird aliens in shiny suits with boomsticks if it helps knock down your civilization.
0 _NoHype 2020-07-13
The Aztecs would not have seen guns as broomsticks, as they had not invented brooms yet
2 -Sulla-Felix- 2020-07-13
maybe re-read what I wrote there, champ. BOOMsticks
3 _NoHype 2020-07-13
No
4 whenweriiide 2020-07-13
Based
2 4thebadbone 2020-07-13
Shut up
1 Platycel 2020-07-13
No one cares nerd
0 Violent_Yet_Polite 2020-07-13
Imagine believing in grammar instead of ideoglyphys.
You're why society has to fall.
Cave painting/hieroglyphics gang is taking over and NO was the right answer.
1 Violent_Yet_Polite 2020-07-13
The Aztecs were playing 40K and worshipped Khorne.
Mezoamerica was a schizo's paradise and if I build a time machine I'm playing hip ball with my enemies heads in a jaguar skin. But I'm bringing trap music and PAWGs
Peyote and bloodsports for days... who's coming with?
2 AuthDemGang 2020-07-13
You had me at the PAWGs fam, schizoamerica time
1 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2020-07-13
Unironically, most of the other tribes before they got conquered as well were just relieved to have them gone, lol.
2 diggity_md 2020-07-13
Such a shame, a chance to make fun of the average redditors absolutely borked knowledge of history turned into another lefty seethe sub
If I could ping ByzantineBasileus though I'd call him an alright guy, he actually makes fun of bad history and doesn't just post "OMG A RIGHTOID POSTED A WRONG!!!"
1 Tirt_ROY 2020-07-13
I'd ping this fellow and tell him he's too good for that shithole.
1 smishsmash44 2020-07-13
That sub has been utter garbage for at least two years
3 Tirt_ROY 2020-07-13
5 years they banned an actual historian.
3 smishsmash44 2020-07-13
Just when I think this site can't get any more laughable
2 Tirt_ROY 2020-07-13
https://old.reddit.com/r/Oppression/comments/5f6mkh/am_a_history_professor_rbadhistory_mod_banned_me/
And he wasn't LARPING imo given this comment.
1 coolyei1 2020-07-13
whuh? sounds like a r*ghtoid seethe sub to me, you sure you're on your shit?
1 HodorLePortePorte 2020-07-13
May the jaguar 🐆 god remove 🔪 their hearts 💕 for speaking ill of the mighty Aztecs 🛕
2 Outdated_CPU_1 2020-07-13
His name is Tezcatlipoca you uncultured swine.
2 Violent_Yet_Polite 2020-07-13
Ok Eagle Warrior
2 Tzar-Romulo 2020-07-13
I prefer the Flayed Lord.
2 Homofascism 2020-07-13
Give me the birbsnek or give me death
1 muffler_kek 2020-07-13
Cough cough cough
1 newcomer_ts 2020-07-13
Since Neanderthal got gamed by Homo Sapiens.
2 Violent_Yet_Polite 2020-07-13
Homo sapiens is homo and that's okay.
Reject evolution. Embrace homo
1 diggity_md 2020-07-13
Reject homo. Embrace erectus
3 Lehk 2020-07-13
Embrace homo while erectus.
1 Violent_Yet_Polite 2020-07-13
You will be spared when society reverts and I am a Liberian warlord. I can only get so eructused
1 Galbo1337 2020-07-13
Reject erectus, embrace australopithecus.
1 Homofascism 2020-07-13
This
1 Homofascism 2020-07-13
Neanderthal got dabbed on by volcanoes not sapiens.
1 MikeStoklasa-cel 2020-07-13
PCM went downhill with flairs. It gave the MDEfugees a 110th country
1 PappyPutin 2020-07-13
Rent free
2 Tzar-Romulo 2020-07-13
This but unironically
1 Qwagsoir 2020-07-13
I mean yes, you're either one of those or a good muslim centrist, no other options sorry boo
1 MikeStoklasa-cel 2020-07-13
Yes
1 Zero5urvivers 2020-07-13
This but without a single cunt-hair of irony
1 -SaltineAmerican- 2020-07-13
If I stumbled upon a bloodthirsty people who conducted ritual human sacrifice on the regular and kept human bones as household items and decoration, I would probably think they needed to be utterly destroyed to. These Spaniards were baste.
1 Violent_Yet_Polite 2020-07-13
Lmao wait till you find out about Holy Relics. Don't bloodshame folks
1 -SaltineAmerican- 2020-07-13
I know orthos kiss skulls and what not, but I doubt they are carving out still beating hearts with an obsidian knife on the top of a square shaped pyramids.
1 Violent_Yet_Polite 2020-07-13
I mean breaking people on the wheel, burning at the stake and having people drawn and quartered is really different.
Also my deleted comment was what I just typed, just posted it in the wrong spot
2 Tirt_ROY 2020-07-13
Alot of that is Victorian exaggeration. They stereotyped the mediæval era as this bloody dark age filled with torture.
1 Violent_Yet_Polite 2020-07-13
Hey, you're not wrong on the hype but I think my point was that public violence as an instrument of the state was not unique.
I think people would find what the Church used to do savage as hell with but with a different flavor.
I'm okay with being wrong and called out. I just don't quite vibe with the conquistadors being civilized routine.
I am not a good debator, I'm here to shit post but like educate me if I'm wrong fam
1 Tirt_ROY 2020-07-13
They weren't at all. I posted above how they killed natives en masse in the mines.
You're mostly right actually but the Aztecs did go a step too far in some cases hence why the other natives joined against them.
Reminds of the Abyssinians in a way. In Abyssinia enslaving Christians was a no no and especially chattel enslaving them. So what'd they do?
They'd raid neighbouring "infidel" tribes for slaves and made sure to never spread the gospel so that these tribes would remain infidels.
The Church always had caveats although in this case this was Orthodox Church.
1 Violent_Yet_Polite 2020-07-13
Ah, gotcha. Well thanks for the info and religion is wild...history is wild. I wanna know more about mezoamerica.
Also it's wild to think a schizoposter like me could have led an army. Like children's crusade, Joan of arc, etc. Idk if they had legit delusions like me or were just politically savvy.
1 Shitposting_Skeleton 2020-07-13
Joan of Arc was the right schizo in the right time. The cost was getting burnt out of jealousy and becoming stuck in weeaboo gacha games.
0 -SaltineAmerican- 2020-07-13
That was not ritual sacrifice though. It was for actual criminals or crimes. Dubious as the accusation may have sometimes been, there were at least reserved for punishment to evil-doers, and not just because it was another Wednesday or to make sure the sun would rise in the morning.
1 Violent_Yet_Polite 2020-07-13
The Aztecs did it to war captives, ritual or not. Western States did it to people who ideologically were unsavory.
Public execution to exalt the state and maintain order is not unique to anyone as a Catholic we drink the blood of our God who was tortured to death.
We are all sickos and always have been 🤷🏿♂️
4 Shitposting_Skeleton 2020-07-13
They also sacrificed children. Like, lots of them. Because one of their gods demanded only child sacrifices. They also had to cry before dying.
1 Violent_Yet_Polite 2020-07-13
Well, you got me there 🤷🏿♂️
I admit defeat. I just don't think either group was particularly humane.
Came to schizopost, stayed for the facts. Y'all be good now, and remember blood is the original currency 😎
1 lawlzposting 2020-07-13
The Spaniards didn't seem particularly concerned with their Tlaxcalan allies' cannibalism or human sacrifice, though.
3 -SaltineAmerican- 2020-07-13
I’m pretty sure Aztecs used the Tlaxcalans as a source for their human sacrifices which is one reason Tlaxcalans hated them enough to convert to Christianity in order to ally with the Spaniards against them. But I’ll take your word for it as I don’t know or care enough about extinct tribes wandering in and around the Yucatán 500 years ago.
1 bumford11 2020-07-13
The tlaxcala were just hungry
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