Extinction cope. This is just a first step. In 10 to 15 years baristas will have higher job security than code monkeys.
I work for a company that designs and builds autonomous harvesters. I always laugh when farmers show up when we test prototypes. Always the same comments like "I will be long dead before these will replace me". Dude, the only way you die before these will make you unemployed is if you overdose on fent. Otherwise your kids will be still in school when you lose your job.
Can't wait for the farmer movement that burns down cell towers to secure their jobs, because most autonomous harvesters rely on an internet connection.
Move to Canada. We are already half way there to implement UBI and if you have dark hair or can get a tan in summer, you can easily identify as First Nation member.
That's all good until Cyber-Trudeau II decides to build their wall, in order to keep UBI leeches out of the Greater Leaf Economic Zone
In a world with few jobs, decent UBI would be a scarce and coveted resource; with every new UBI recipient representing a decrease in payments to those already receiving it
Creating web controls in Facebook's zoomer language is nothing to be worried about and code gen has been around for decades cause programmers are lazy. This will just stop vaporware companies from outsourcing UI jobs to Indians and Pakistanis.
Farmers are already obsolete. That's why the government has to give them money to continue their little LARPs. That also means that your years of hard work will be for naught when the government raises farm subsidies by $3 billion.
80% of most farmers' jobs at this point is hooking up an irrigation rig to a tractor and driving back and forth twice a day. They'd be total retards to not realize how soon their day is coming. Then they plant shit and harvest with tractors (or Mexicans) too.
They make scion "landlords" and "daytraders" look overworked.
At least we get to make fun of them for living lives glued to their parents geographically by work obligation.
This. A programmer costs a lot to employ. You get minimal gains from replacing someone at $7 an hour compared to someone who costs hundred thousand per year.
The C's like C++, C# for steady jobs that may or may not be shit. If you want job security in government but also hate yourself and never move forward...Fortran and C/F.
Python for testing engineers, and that's the only 'baby programming language' I'd recommend. People that like Ruby n shit are obnoxious n have too much shit stickers on their laptop instead of having a personality.
What’s going on behind the scenes is actually rather shocking in scope.
In the end, coding is the most trivial part of development, and tools based on this tech seem like they keep taking bigger and bigger dents out of boilerplate.
It doesnt even generate actual javascript code, its just some basic program that detects pre-determined keywords and turns it into HTML and basic CSS. So when you write "circle" it searches to see if the keyword is in the code and what it's supposed to do. In this case it will just create a square with equal width and height and add a 50% border radious to create a circle.
Its literally faster and you also type fewer letters by just write the code yourself than to search what you want in that search bar lmao. You also still need to know CSS to actually place it where you want the circle to be and add various properties and also take into account many other things like resolution scaling. Tbh it's literally useless and normies wont even know how to use html and css to begin with let alone what to do with the Jsx code it generates.
This is pretty scary, ngl. My fear a country like China will surpass us in AI tech , meanwhile US starts doing stupid stuff concentrating on topics such as "hey is AI problematic?"
Isn't that what advertising technology is doing already? Where is that Snappy quote about porn recommendations?
Despite what humans like to think, they are not unique snowflakes. In fact, their lives follow a number of easily recognizable patterns. Teach a robot those patterns and you're all set.
Like how a person acts when they deny they are in pain but really are? To tell the difference between a person laughing nervously and one making a joke? It’s easier to program a code monkey than a nurse.
Like how a person acts when they deny they are in pain but really are? To tell the difference between a person laughing nervously and one making a joke?
That’s interesting. But computers and robots don’t care who is interacting with them. Humans do. It’s possible talents and jobs not much currently valued in society may be the last things seen as something only people can do. Not saying something only women can do.
Having humans there can be both positive and negative, depending on the situation.
For example being embarassed to tell something to your doctor can be a barrier to getting the healthcare you need. Such a barrier doesn't exist with robots.
Sure, people's relationship with technology is interesting. There is probably no question that people can attribute human like qualities to robots such that they can see the robot comprehending their information but not judging them. I also think it depends on the sex of the human. It would be interesting to have a combination of factors, such as a robot like tool where patients check in and respond to assessments helping a human do their job.
A human-robot relationship could be powerful. This was a primitive coding project that had the coders talking to it like their psychiatrist! The lead guy shut it down because of his fear, his ludditism, but it's an interesting way the field could go.
One thing I found when I worked with people is that they just want what is in their minds out in the world. Be it a person, a computer, or an animal. I had a teen age boy tell me why he tried to kill himself. I had an ear infection, and he was crying and talking low and I couldn't understand a single word he said. I only gave infrequent brief answers because, after all, what would be appropriate to say. The next time I came back to work I found out he had told all the other patients that if they need someone to talk to, to talk to Protista, because a person can tell her anything. People are fascinating and the addition of technology just makes it even more interesting and opens new ways of looking at and doing things.
You'd have to vote in another two idiots to get in such a state. The real issue for American relevance is if Oceania is going to form a new power bloc in response to the inaction of the western world.
That'll probably happen regardless so I wouldn't worry about it too much. So the real question is do we get another great Maverick appearing and cause any real shit.
As for jobs with mass unemployment from AI automation imminent the security sector is going to be booming, gotta suppress those filthy poors somehow.
Remember how people used to be so gungho about automation because they thought only icky poor people would be consigned to the scrapheap? It was fun watching the penny drop. Turns out you need advanced and expensive robots to do even the most menial blue collar jobs, but white collar jobs can be done by software alone lol
Changing a lightbulb would be trivial if the lightbulbs and light fixtures were designed with robotic maintenance in mind. It's the human-oriented lightbulbs that are the issue.
Retrofitting existing infrastructure probably isn't going to happen (much), but new stuff can gradually add more and more automation-friendly features.
Your car doesn't have to perfectly drive around road construction based on visual input alone, when the construction company can just set up a beacon that will give passing cars the information they need with 100% accuracy.
But today's oppressive systems set robots up to fail. With a bit of effort, the whole world could look like an Amazon warehouse some day.
Tfw all you did was invent a new layout description language. Show it working in an actual project, not a toy demo - then I may be impressed.
Even today, all everyone does for web UI is pick a template and fill in the blanks. Most products in a category are basically the same - someone already did it for you, you just slap your logo on a prefabricated website.
Just look at all those shitty Wix ads that YouTube was being spammed with some time ago. Any monkey could already do this stuff decades ago. How do you think people on fiverr can crank out 20 designs for $10 in under an hour?
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83 GhostOfAFart 2020-07-14
Making a web interface isn't real coding. 😎
[Impressive automation though, ngl.]
49 mqL49J 2020-07-14
Feel sorry for all the girls that are gonna be redundant now, though.
21 NumerousEvent 2020-07-14
Hardislife on suicide watch.
10 jewdanksdad 2020-07-14
Literally who?
5 Thereal14words 2020-07-14
i miss her
2 Lysis10 2020-07-14
I liked that bitch too.
0 Thereal14words 2020-07-14
yeah we didnt deserve her
30 ThinkingOnce 2020-07-14
Extinction cope. This is just a first step. In 10 to 15 years baristas will have higher job security than code monkeys.
I work for a company that designs and builds autonomous harvesters. I always laugh when farmers show up when we test prototypes. Always the same comments like "I will be long dead before these will replace me". Dude, the only way you die before these will make you unemployed is if you overdose on fent. Otherwise your kids will be still in school when you lose your job.
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25 ThinkingOnce 2020-07-14
Can't wait for the farmer movement that burns down cell towers to secure their jobs, because most autonomous harvesters rely on an internet connection.
3 Bummunism 2020-07-14
Satellite out of the question?
13 ThinkingOnce 2020-07-14
No, we can do that. But satellite bandwidth is expensive. Might change with space daddy's starlink network.
18 GhostOfAFart 2020-07-14
Based and correct.
I am already planning to go full transracial to get that sweet delicious free government awarded tender money.
Anyway I agreed like 1 min before you posted: "Being a CIA spook is the only job with any security left."
8 ThinkingOnce 2020-07-14
Move to Canada. We are already half way there to implement UBI and if you have dark hair or can get a tan in summer, you can easily identify as First Nation member.
9 GhostOfAFart 2020-07-14
Unironically, Canada is already on the list of possible places to flee to eventually.
1 Tardigrade_Sex_Party 2020-07-14
That's all good until Cyber-Trudeau II decides to build their wall, in order to keep UBI leeches out of the Greater Leaf Economic Zone
In a world with few jobs, decent UBI would be a scarce and coveted resource; with every new UBI recipient representing a decrease in payments to those already receiving it
5 istural 2020-07-14
Imagine not getting a cushy intelligence agency job to protect yourself from the codecels automating you out of existence.
13 SlimjobDopamine 2020-07-14
Creating web controls in Facebook's zoomer language is nothing to be worried about and code gen has been around for decades cause programmers are lazy. This will just stop vaporware companies from outsourcing UI jobs to Indians and Pakistanis.
13 mqL49J 2020-07-14
Won't be laughing when your defective autoharvesters get jailbroken by opensource Chads, proprietary-cel.
6 UpvoteIfYouDare 2020-07-14
Programmers have had frameworks to pump out shit like this for a decade.
2 Drab_baggage 2020-07-14
not to mention "just type what you want" is literally the entire point of programming
5 fat_cox 2020-07-14
Farmers are already obsolete. That's why the government has to give them money to continue their little LARPs. That also means that your years of hard work will be for naught when the government raises farm subsidies by $3 billion.
2 jewdanksdad 2020-07-14
In 10 to 15 years, we will have automatic coffee service
4 2cimarafa 2020-07-14
a coffee machine? now thats just unrealistic.
3 jewdanksdad 2020-07-14
Nah robots gonna beep boop all over the place
2 cute-and-funny 2020-07-14
80% of most farmers' jobs at this point is hooking up an irrigation rig to a tractor and driving back and forth twice a day. They'd be total retards to not realize how soon their day is coming. Then they plant shit and harvest with tractors (or Mexicans) too.
They make scion "landlords" and "daytraders" look overworked.
At least we get to make fun of them for living lives glued to their parents geographically by work obligation.
2 EndTimesRadio 2020-07-14
This. A programmer costs a lot to employ. You get minimal gains from replacing someone at $7 an hour compared to someone who costs hundred thousand per year.
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8 bkad29 2020-07-14
They’re literally drawing pictures with words... how do these 16 year olds get paid at all for this.
3 Pepe_von_Habsburg 2020-07-14
Yeah it’s pretty cool, could save a lot of time with GUIs
3 Spysix 2020-07-14
Anyone that knows a programming language worth a damn isn't going to be worried about this. (like me.)
1 anotherincel 2020-07-14
Any examples?
2 Spysix 2020-07-14
The C's like C++, C# for steady jobs that may or may not be shit. If you want job security in government but also hate yourself and never move forward...Fortran and C/F. Python for testing engineers, and that's the only 'baby programming language' I'd recommend. People that like Ruby n shit are obnoxious n have too much shit stickers on their laptop instead of having a personality.
1 kermit_was_wrong 2020-07-14
What’s going on behind the scenes is actually rather shocking in scope.
In the end, coding is the most trivial part of development, and tools based on this tech seem like they keep taking bigger and bigger dents out of boilerplate.
54 2cimarafa 2020-07-14
Learn to code? More like learn to write 2000 word articles on how you realized you were poly only after your wife told you she was cheating.
8 Drab_baggage 2020-07-14
everyone knows web dev is just a gateway to becoming a blogger on Medium
49 GeminiRocket 2020-07-14
They weren't programmers in the first place tbh
22 Lysis10 2020-07-14
Everyone knows web devs already got shipped to india for $10/hour. Dime a dozen.
2 PUBLIQclopAccountant 2020-07-14
Only web browsers can tolerate code of that quality.
7 ironicshitpostr 2020-07-14
webshits btfo
7 Erotism 2020-07-14
It doesnt even generate actual javascript code, its just some basic program that detects pre-determined keywords and turns it into HTML and basic CSS. So when you write "circle" it searches to see if the keyword is in the code and what it's supposed to do. In this case it will just create a square with equal width and height and add a 50% border radious to create a circle.
Its literally faster and you also type fewer letters by just write the code yourself than to search what you want in that search bar lmao. You also still need to know CSS to actually place it where you want the circle to be and add various properties and also take into account many other things like resolution scaling. Tbh it's literally useless and normies wont even know how to use html and css to begin with let alone what to do with the Jsx code it generates.
tl:dr words words words and words.
4 Bummunism 2020-07-14
He 👏 started 👏 a 👏 conversation 👏
2 tHeSiD 2020-07-14
Typescript master race
37 tereria85 2020-07-14
This is pretty scary, ngl. My fear a country like China will surpass us in AI tech , meanwhile US starts doing stupid stuff concentrating on topics such as "hey is AI problematic?"
Anyway, what jobs are safe, do you think.
43 GhostOfAFart 2020-07-14
Being a CIA spook is the only job with any security left.
2 tHeSiD 2020-07-14
Literally can be outsourced to ai spying on all emails and sending gists/daily reports every day
1 GhostOfAFart 2020-07-14
Yeah, but someone needs to read those AI generated reports.
2 DeadlyRNG 2020-07-14
Automated all the way up baby, then trump just gets a letter saying /u/ GhostOfAFart jacks off to sonic porn.
2 GhostOfAFart 2020-07-14
Daddy jacks off to Chris Chan videos, so he would probably just promote me.
2 DeadlyRNG 2020-07-14
Based
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23 BoomersForYang2024 2020-07-14
The unemployment business is booming lately 😈
17 Protista_of_Peace 2020-07-14
The type of jobs foids do where you have to be able to analyze humans.
10 Bummunism 2020-07-14
It will be 2037 when a Man sounds the call to throw down his oppressors.
10 EnvironmentalCrow5 2020-07-14
Isn't that what advertising technology is doing already? Where is that Snappy quote about porn recommendations?
Despite what humans like to think, they are not unique snowflakes. In fact, their lives follow a number of easily recognizable patterns. Teach a robot those patterns and you're all set.
2 Protista_of_Peace 2020-07-14
Like how a person acts when they deny they are in pain but really are? To tell the difference between a person laughing nervously and one making a joke? It’s easier to program a code monkey than a nurse.
3 EnvironmentalCrow5 2020-07-14
Are you cyberbullying me?
Anyway, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion_recognition#Automatic
1 Protista_of_Peace 2020-07-14
That’s interesting. But computers and robots don’t care who is interacting with them. Humans do. It’s possible talents and jobs not much currently valued in society may be the last things seen as something only people can do. Not saying something only women can do.
1 EnvironmentalCrow5 2020-07-14
Having humans there can be both positive and negative, depending on the situation.
For example being embarassed to tell something to your doctor can be a barrier to getting the healthcare you need. Such a barrier doesn't exist with robots.
2 Protista_of_Peace 2020-07-14
Sure, people's relationship with technology is interesting. There is probably no question that people can attribute human like qualities to robots such that they can see the robot comprehending their information but not judging them. I also think it depends on the sex of the human. It would be interesting to have a combination of factors, such as a robot like tool where patients check in and respond to assessments helping a human do their job.
2 Bummunism 2020-07-14
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
A human-robot relationship could be powerful. This was a primitive coding project that had the coders talking to it like their psychiatrist! The lead guy shut it down because of his fear, his ludditism, but it's an interesting way the field could go.
2 Protista_of_Peace 2020-07-14
One thing I found when I worked with people is that they just want what is in their minds out in the world. Be it a person, a computer, or an animal. I had a teen age boy tell me why he tried to kill himself. I had an ear infection, and he was crying and talking low and I couldn't understand a single word he said. I only gave infrequent brief answers because, after all, what would be appropriate to say. The next time I came back to work I found out he had told all the other patients that if they need someone to talk to, to talk to Protista, because a person can tell her anything. People are fascinating and the addition of technology just makes it even more interesting and opens new ways of looking at and doing things.
1 Bummunism 2020-07-14
Sometimes saying nothing will them confront their demons head-on.
2 Protista_of_Peace 2020-07-14
That’s a cool way to look at it I’d never thought of.
2 Bummunism 2020-07-14
You did.
13 Osterion 2020-07-14
U have to go into politics
10 Maedchenklostecher 2020-07-14
Actual programming
8 Lord_Sticky 2020-07-14
There’ll always be need for Internet janitors
3 tereria85 2020-07-14
How much does it pay?
13 Lord_Sticky 2020-07-14
Pay?
4 godsrmay 2020-07-14
AI is a meme
3 Statshelp_TA 2020-07-14
I trust the CIA is ignoring that ethical debate
2 OceanGeese 2020-07-14
You'd have to vote in another two idiots to get in such a state. The real issue for American relevance is if Oceania is going to form a new power bloc in response to the inaction of the western world.
That'll probably happen regardless so I wouldn't worry about it too much. So the real question is do we get another great Maverick appearing and cause any real shit.
As for jobs with mass unemployment from AI automation imminent the security sector is going to be booming, gotta suppress those filthy poors somehow.
1 Homofascism 2020-07-14
Research and devellopment.
If that get automated we are living in an utopia anyway.
32 bumford11 2020-07-14
Remember how people used to be so gungho about automation because they thought only icky poor people would be consigned to the scrapheap? It was fun watching the penny drop. Turns out you need advanced and expensive robots to do even the most menial blue collar jobs, but white collar jobs can be done by software alone lol
12 -SaltineAmerican- 2020-07-14
It’s true. Complicated tasks like a chess game are easy to automate whereas changing a lightbulb seems almost insurmountable.
7 EnvironmentalCrow5 2020-07-14
Changing a lightbulb would be trivial if the lightbulbs and light fixtures were designed with robotic maintenance in mind. It's the human-oriented lightbulbs that are the issue.
Retrofitting existing infrastructure probably isn't going to happen (much), but new stuff can gradually add more and more automation-friendly features.
Your car doesn't have to perfectly drive around road construction based on visual input alone, when the construction company can just set up a beacon that will give passing cars the information they need with 100% accuracy.
But today's oppressive systems set robots up to fail. With a bit of effort, the whole world could look like an Amazon warehouse some day.
23 EnvironmentalCrow5 2020-07-14
Tfw all you did was invent a new layout description language. Show it working in an actual project, not a toy demo - then I may be impressed.
Even today, all everyone does for web UI is pick a template and fill in the blanks. Most products in a category are basically the same - someone already did it for you, you just slap your logo on a prefabricated website.
Just look at all those shitty Wix ads that YouTube was being spammed with some time ago. Any monkey could already do this stuff decades ago. How do you think people on fiverr can crank out 20 designs for $10 in under an hour?
https://tiffzhang.com/startup/
7 Lysis10 2020-07-14
Look at me type words and then the words show up with the blink and bold tag. AUTOMATION
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15 newcomer_ts 2020-07-14
These are programmers in the same sense as Twitercells are journalists.
4 NormanImmanuel 2020-07-14
The only type left?
13 runmeupmate 2020-07-14
The only jobs in the future will be toilet scrubber and reddit j@nnie
4 Ultrashitposter 2020-07-14
soon
3 Lysis10 2020-07-14
eh if anyone has seen the code created by any of the site generators out there, they know they have nothing to worry about.
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3 D_Legare 2020-07-14
One requires an art degree, the other requires autism.
2 Bummunism 2020-07-14
Vernor Vinge already did it
2 MikeStoklasa-cel 2020-07-14
This is why you join the CIA as a glow-in-the-dark
2 Homofascism 2020-07-14
By allah, you will taste my shoe.
1 Blizzxx 2020-07-14
Sounds like programmers need to #LearnToWrite
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1 Maedchenklostecher 2020-07-14
Most webshit has already been made obsolete by squarespace, and that’s a good thing.
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1 TheColdTurtle 2020-07-14
Well guess I dont have to learn to code anymore
1 Darkageoflaw 2020-07-14
Yang I'm going to need that money now.
1 philoponeria 2020-07-14
This is like a 25 year old skill.
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