I normally roll my eyes when cops whine about how dangerous their job is, because there's lots of jobs that are more dangerous and none of them get "fallen hero" memorials built in their honor. But this is just wacky, liberals truly have no principles.
Yeah it's one thing when they whine about how they don't get hero worship but these people are literally banning fucking pepper spray? Like I thought leftists wanted cops to use that shit instead
I actually don't disagree with that. Police have various special protections due to the implied danger and they know what they're signing up for.
It doesn't apply here though since without tear gas/other crowd control tools their options are either A) do nothing or B) start disbursing some club therapy. We all know how the second one would go down.
Except a lot of this stuff they really didn't sign up for, like getting lasered in the eyes for 60 nights straight. The rules were completely changed over the last few years.
I never understood this point and I see people make it all the time - do people not know being a cop is a job? Like they know cops aren't signing up to be pelted with shit passively and otherwise just let people bash on them passively right?
I don't think people realize that cops ARE the social workers they advocate for. They really are the thin blue line, because they're responsible for handling the most unfortunate aspects of society. The shit people don't want to know exists.
If someone threatens suicidal, who responds? If someone gets lost in the mountains, who organizes a search party? If someone gets in a catastrophic car accident, who responds? If someone is publicly intoxicated and is a danger to themselves, who responds?
These are all just examples NOT involving use of deadly force like people know cops as.
That's actually why it's banned in warfare; not because of the effects of the CS gas itself but because the attack could trigger an escalation from its targets resulting in the use of actually lethal chemical weapons.
CS isn't banned in warfare, at least not as far as the US is concerned. It's one of the two chemical weapons we still use (the other being phosphorous).
The US is party to the Chemical Weapons Convention, Article I(5) of which prohibits the military use of riot control agents, including CS.
That rule is arguably superceded by the exceptions reserved by the US under the earlier Geneva Gas Protocol. Under those exceptions the US reserved the right to its military using chemical agents (namely, as you mention, CS and phosphorous) in non-combat applications.
I've never personally used it but when I was going through CBRN training I had instructors who had used it in combat to defend the FOBs they were on. They may not have been supposed to but the US does still use it in combat.
I'm so glad I got to see this city in December before it went to total shit. I wonder if Bellevue is just as big of a dumpster fire. Would be cool to go see more WA because it looked beautiful from the air.
Bellevue is fine. They had a day of bad looting but most of those responsible were gang members from South King County, stupid gang members who were caught using video and social media. Also their police chief seems to be really good at his job.
Sucks to rent there because of inventory or prices or just being kind of a crappy city? I was weirdly charmed by it the one time I went, and I'd love to go back, but I don't think I'd ever want to live there.
At least those places have beaches (and in the case of the meth coast, beautiful scenery). Bellevue's sole function is to store aging MSFT employees at night.
haha damn. I've only been to Seattle and really enjoyed it but didn't get to do much. I really want to go back and see more of WA, but won't be going out there any time soon even if they do finally clean this shit up.
The Seattle metro is pretty fun, but it doesn't have much to offer that other places in the PNW don't do better unless you're trying to find a job in tech. I would highly recommend visiting Vancouver and driving around BC, because the scenery is indisputably some of the best in the world, and the city proper is cozy and incredibly easy to get around, albeit boring if you're really into nightlife.
If you want to have unforgettable fun in a good + bad way, I would recommend making a lower-income friend in Portland and going there; the scenery is also really nice in any direction once you get about 45+ mins from the city, though that's true of anywhere in the PNW, and BC is just unmatched in that respect.
The only way to see Seattle before it totally went to shit requires hopping in a time machine. You should aim for somewhere between the release of SWASS and the death of the Sonics for best results.
It depends on where you go really. Ballard/Fremont is still pretty great. SLU is good but that's because Amazon took it over essentially. Capitol Hill and South Seattle is where you want to avoid.
Ballard and Fremont are every bit the shell of their former selves that Capitol Hill is. If Aladdin's on the Ave ever closes I'll never have any reason to go to Seattle ever again.
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115 StephanTheEggCounter 2020-07-25
Good to know liberal redditards are in favor of occupational health and safety measures.
42 AlexJones_GayFrog 2020-07-25
I normally roll my eyes when cops whine about how dangerous their job is, because there's lots of jobs that are more dangerous and none of them get "fallen hero" memorials built in their honor. But this is just wacky, liberals truly have no principles.
41 Rslur 2020-07-25
Like just block the molotovs with your shield???? Fucking pussies lmao
9 Feanorfanclub 2020-07-25
Yeah it's one thing when they whine about how they don't get hero worship but these people are literally banning fucking pepper spray? Like I thought leftists wanted cops to use that shit instead
28 rakrakaon 2020-07-25
I actually don't disagree with that. Police have various special protections due to the implied danger and they know what they're signing up for.
It doesn't apply here though since without tear gas/other crowd control tools their options are either A) do nothing or B) start disbursing some club therapy. We all know how the second one would go down.
14 TrailerParkRide 2020-07-25
Or they could do it old school Haymarket-style
5 ExilesReturn 2020-07-25
Lol, a literal paddy wagon.
5 Redactor0 2020-07-25
Except a lot of this stuff they really didn't sign up for, like getting lasered in the eyes for 60 nights straight. The rules were completely changed over the last few years.
8 shitaim 2020-07-25
I never understood this point and I see people make it all the time - do people not know being a cop is a job? Like they know cops aren't signing up to be pelted with shit passively and otherwise just let people bash on them passively right?
10 FrostyBlowmanSnowman 2020-07-25
I don't think people realize that cops ARE the social workers they advocate for. They really are the thin blue line, because they're responsible for handling the most unfortunate aspects of society. The shit people don't want to know exists.
If someone threatens suicidal, who responds? If someone gets lost in the mountains, who organizes a search party? If someone gets in a catastrophic car accident, who responds? If someone is publicly intoxicated and is a danger to themselves, who responds?
These are all just examples NOT involving use of deadly force like people know cops as.
37 ShitTornadoToOz 2020-07-25
🙄
16 loplopplop 2020-07-25
That's just the Braps from the vegan hogs in that town.
11 antoniorisky 2020-07-25
Strictly speaking, CS is a chemical weapon but calling it that is clearly trying to invoke VX or sarin in people's minds.
6 pandeyji_ka_ladka 2020-07-25
So womyn carry portable chemical weapons in their purses??
1 antoniorisky 2020-07-25
Maybe? I'm not really sure if pepper spray, specifically, counts.
3 goes_bump_inthenight 2020-07-25
That's actually why it's banned in warfare; not because of the effects of the CS gas itself but because the attack could trigger an escalation from its targets resulting in the use of actually lethal chemical weapons.
2 antoniorisky 2020-07-25
CS isn't banned in warfare, at least not as far as the US is concerned. It's one of the two chemical weapons we still use (the other being phosphorous).
1 goes_bump_inthenight 2020-07-25
The truth's somewhere in the middle.
The US is party to the Chemical Weapons Convention, Article I(5) of which prohibits the military use of riot control agents, including CS.
That rule is arguably superceded by the exceptions reserved by the US under the earlier Geneva Gas Protocol. Under those exceptions the US reserved the right to its military using chemical agents (namely, as you mention, CS and phosphorous) in non-combat applications.
1 antoniorisky 2020-07-25
I've never personally used it but when I was going through CBRN training I had instructors who had used it in combat to defend the FOBs they were on. They may not have been supposed to but the US does still use it in combat.
31 Lysis10 2020-07-25
I'm so glad I got to see this city in December before it went to total shit. I wonder if Bellevue is just as big of a dumpster fire. Would be cool to go see more WA because it looked beautiful from the air.
21 Seahawkanon 2020-07-25
Bellevue is fine. They had a day of bad looting but most of those responsible were gang members from South King County, stupid gang members who were caught using video and social media. Also their police chief seems to be really good at his job.
9 Lysis10 2020-07-25
That's good to know. I'd like to go back out there but this shit ruins it.
7 TrailerParkRide 2020-07-25
How is Tacoma these days?
9 Seahawkanon 2020-07-25
Fine. Apparently sucks to rent there. Honestly Seattle isn’t that bad. No sustained madness for a few weeks now. Though that could change today.
8 TrailerParkRide 2020-07-25
Sucks to rent there because of inventory or prices or just being kind of a crappy city? I was weirdly charmed by it the one time I went, and I'd love to go back, but I don't think I'd ever want to live there.
3 Seahawkanon 2020-07-25
https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/tacoma/report-ranks-tacoma-as-one-of-the-worst-cities-to-rent/281-80a5b005-7b97-4849-8c82-d4bbf403766a
4 Manchu_Fist 2020-07-25
All my friends that used to live in Tacoma moved across the narrows to Gig Harbor. They said it turned from a shithole to a overpriced shithole.
14 snallygaster 2020-07-25
Bellevue is one of the most boring and soulless cities on an American coast; the fact that they got any action during the protests blows my mind.
13 TrailerParkRide 2020-07-25
>Redondo Beach
>Newport Beach
>Del Mar
>Malibu
>Oregon's entire meth coast
>Bellevue doesn't even crack the top 5
sorry sweatty, better luck next time 💅
14 snallygaster 2020-07-25
At least those places have beaches (and in the case of the meth coast, beautiful scenery). Bellevue's sole function is to store aging MSFT employees at night.
2 ironicshitpostr 2020-07-25
Yellowstone Caldera super eruption when
3 Lysis10 2020-07-25
haha damn. I've only been to Seattle and really enjoyed it but didn't get to do much. I really want to go back and see more of WA, but won't be going out there any time soon even if they do finally clean this shit up.
2 snallygaster 2020-07-25
The Seattle metro is pretty fun, but it doesn't have much to offer that other places in the PNW don't do better unless you're trying to find a job in tech. I would highly recommend visiting Vancouver and driving around BC, because the scenery is indisputably some of the best in the world, and the city proper is cozy and incredibly easy to get around, albeit boring if you're really into nightlife.
If you want to have unforgettable fun in a good + bad way, I would recommend making a lower-income friend in Portland and going there; the scenery is also really nice in any direction once you get about 45+ mins from the city, though that's true of anywhere in the PNW, and BC is just unmatched in that respect.
9 trapochaphouse 2020-07-25
The only way to see Seattle before it totally went to shit requires hopping in a time machine. You should aim for somewhere between the release of SWASS and the death of the Sonics for best results.
5 Manchu_Fist 2020-07-25
Seattle circa 2008 was the bomb. I'm glad I got to spend time there before it got bad.
2 ash_ketchthesehands 2020-07-25
It depends on where you go really. Ballard/Fremont is still pretty great. SLU is good but that's because Amazon took it over essentially. Capitol Hill and South Seattle is where you want to avoid.
2 trapochaphouse 2020-07-25
Ballard and Fremont are every bit the shell of their former selves that Capitol Hill is. If Aladdin's on the Ave ever closes I'll never have any reason to go to Seattle ever again.
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18 greensunset 2020-07-25
Well, they can use the lethal weapon instead ! Solved 😎
15 CRYSTAL_HYPOTHESIS 2020-07-25
isnt this what they wanted? since private property should be abolished, theres no point having the police protect it
7 universalChamp1on 2020-07-25
This. This is what that crazy Khshma sawant socialist lady wants. That’s what socialism is. The abolishment of private property.
Bitch is crazy
14 randomination 2020-07-25
Always siding with the criminals....
2020 is the year racism ends, as the US has finally embraced black culture.
5 Alicesnakebae 2020-07-25
Weren't they still trying to blind people
14 Augustus-Romulus 2020-07-25
That was Portland so basically the same thing