I assume he is talking about states making it easier to vote by mail. To his credit he is correct, any laws that make it easier to vote fucks over rightoids in the log run because systemic voter suppression has been the main way republicans have been able to stay in power both federally and state/locally for decades since there are more democrats/democrat leaning independents than there are republicans/republican leaning independents.
They unironically can't for the same reason that gerrymandering is more effective for them, which is absolutely hilarious. Besides, it requires heavy media backing quickly shutting down any questions, which they don't have and never will.
This is a cop out answer, voter suppression methods are subtle and not necessarily illegal. If they really believe that the demonrats are stuffing ballot boxes or using other tactics to fraudulently vote, why aren't they doing the same.
If they really believe that the demonrats are stuffing ballot boxes or using other tactics to fraudulently vote
They don't. Even the people in this thread professing to believe that don't. That's why they get really cagey when pressed for details about what they mean by cheating. They'll just point to that Time article, be extra vague, or deflect by posting the "Source" copypasta. It's all cope.
If you don't know that a huge portion of the American population whole heartedly believes that, and will continue to, then you've buried your head awfully deep in the sand.
DC isn't going to be occupied by 30k national guard troops through fall because people believe government is legitimate.
I can personally assure you that they believe it because I talk to them all the time, making sure they keep believing it.
Of course some voters believe it, they were told to believe it by their guy. I was talking about the republicans actually in positions to "Steal" elections like the demonrats did.
Lmao some of them believe in Q and Jewish space lasers. Also, all the ones with experience know that varying levels of fraud happen in every election.
The pragmatists like McConnell just know that it's best for the status quo if republican voters don't believe they were cheated, because he wants them to vote instead of killing people. Killing people doesn't fill his pockets.
I don't even know if he's right. Before Trump the GOP was pushing mail-in voting because their older base was more likely to vote by mail.
They decided to do a 180 and become anti-mail in voting based on the incoherent ramblings of Donald Trump and suppressed their own voters.
It remains to be seen if the newfound Republican resistance to mail-in voting will last or they'll revert back to supporting mail-in voting.
In fact, as far as I can tell, quite literally the only reason Republicans stopped voting by mail is because Trump claimed it was bad for them even though the data conflicted with that perception.
That's because in those states absentee voting was generally reserved to the ancient and the disabled (because of the crossover between the two groups).
The pushes to expand absentee to the able bodied didn't come from the right, and right wing opposition to it didn't start with Trump.
Further, if this sub appears even close to right wing in your eyes, you're a hopeless leftoid.
The ones that changed how mail in ballots work in several important swing states. Pennsylvania being the most controversial because the legislature didn't actually make the laws.
Republicans literally created some alternate reality and kept claiming they didn't, but they did.
Either way, the idea the legislature has to directly approve voting changes was legally incoherent in the first place.
State legislatures have the ability to delegate power and responsibility to various departments of the state government.
The departments making the changes draw their power to do so directly from the legislature. This has always been the case, accepted by both Republicans and democrats, and completely uncontroversial.
That is, right up until Republicans needed to manufacture some reason to claim the election was somehow not fair because the leader of their cult lost.
Literally just google the words you silly bitch, you can pick a source that you like. Part of it is still being reviewed by the Supreme Court, though I doubt it will go anywhere.
I was being nice and trying to let you back out of your ignorance bud.
There were no "court added additions" to the law. There were some rulings by the court on how the law should be read, but that only impacted a fringe minority of overall ballots.
The no excuse mail-in voting? Approved fully by the government.
The 50 day early voting period? Again, approved fully by the government.
Indeed, the changes to the law that impacted some 99.9% of ballots were fully approved by the state government.
The talking point you're shilling here is in fact about the law as passed by the government:
If you forget already, they're the things you mentioned as only affecting a fringe minority if overall ballots.
That said, your posts are an excellent argument for a life of illiteracy. Teaching you to read obviously accomplished nothing, and teaching you to write has just inflicted you on the rest of us unfortunate enough to know the written word.
They didn't make any additions to the law, the law was read as written by the courts after Republicans tried to warp the law and themselves change what the law said after Trump started throwing a tantrum.
Either way, I'm still waiting for you to show me these court additions to the law.
I didn't read the article because lmao why would I ever, but I gotta say, I honestly can't think of a more perfect state of realpolitik contentment than, "It'll do."
The ones engaging in real politik with this stuff are doing it to please their base. It remains to be seen if it's good enough. So far they seem to have far more control over whether or not protests happen than I'd have expected. I knew BLM wouldn't be back until 2024, but I'm impressed that they could stop all counter protesting. The real test will be after Chauvin is acquitted
For the people on the ground, who are happily accepting their own corporate slavery in order to get endorphins from following what the good guys on tv tell them, seems like a really weak pay off.
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22 Leylinus 2021-02-14
They can't even stop to be happy that, given the new election laws, there will never be another Republican president.
Because admitting that to themselves would be too close to admitting the bad guys are right, even though it's not actually admitting that.
33 Galatians_416 2021-02-14
what new election laws ?
25 Zero5urvivers 2021-02-14
I assume he is talking about states making it easier to vote by mail. To his credit he is correct, any laws that make it easier to vote fucks over rightoids in the log run because systemic voter suppression has been the main way republicans have been able to stay in power both federally and state/locally for decades since there are more democrats/democrat leaning independents than there are republicans/republican leaning independents.
12 Leylinus 2021-02-14
Yeah basically. The right would say that it also makes it easier to cheat and/or that people that can't vote normally probably shouldn't, but yeah.
I would say that it's a little bit of columns A, B, and C. With a dash of "the GOP isn't going to bother to vote now because they believe it's rigged"
I'm just hoping they keep the outrage up.
8 AugustinesBitchBoy 2021-02-14
If Republicans are so worried about this, why don't they just cheat too.
9 Leylinus 2021-02-14
They unironically can't for the same reason that gerrymandering is more effective for them, which is absolutely hilarious. Besides, it requires heavy media backing quickly shutting down any questions, which they don't have and never will.
But that's for the best. Stability is slavery.
-4 questionablyrotten 2021-02-14
They do, voter suppression is just easier to counter now
9 AugustinesBitchBoy 2021-02-14
This is a cop out answer, voter suppression methods are subtle and not necessarily illegal. If they really believe that the demonrats are stuffing ballot boxes or using other tactics to fraudulently vote, why aren't they doing the same.
3 DuckSosu 2021-02-14
They don't. Even the people in this thread professing to believe that don't. That's why they get really cagey when pressed for details about what they mean by cheating. They'll just point to that Time article, be extra vague, or deflect by posting the "Source" copypasta. It's all cope.
2 Leylinus 2021-02-14
If you don't know that a huge portion of the American population whole heartedly believes that, and will continue to, then you've buried your head awfully deep in the sand.
DC isn't going to be occupied by 30k national guard troops through fall because people believe government is legitimate.
I can personally assure you that they believe it because I talk to them all the time, making sure they keep believing it.
3 DuckSosu 2021-02-14
Of course some voters believe it, they were told to believe it by their guy. I was talking about the republicans actually in positions to "Steal" elections like the demonrats did.
2 Leylinus 2021-02-14
Lmao some of them believe in Q and Jewish space lasers. Also, all the ones with experience know that varying levels of fraud happen in every election.
The pragmatists like McConnell just know that it's best for the status quo if republican voters don't believe they were cheated, because he wants them to vote instead of killing people. Killing people doesn't fill his pockets.
-5 Whaddaulookinat 2021-02-14
They likely do. See Ruby red states turn purple as soon as there are paper trails to voting quick
1 freet0 2021-02-14
If only we could suppress all the rightoid and leftoid voters and leave only the people who actually think before voting.
1 GooseMan1515 2021-02-14
The republicans might have to propose policies that people actually want now. Shocking, I know.
1 onafriday 2021-02-14
more gibs
1 911roofer 2021-02-14
That's not going to be good for the Democrats.
-6 adminsare55IQ 2021-02-14
I don't even know if he's right. Before Trump the GOP was pushing mail-in voting because their older base was more likely to vote by mail.
They decided to do a 180 and become anti-mail in voting based on the incoherent ramblings of Donald Trump and suppressed their own voters.
It remains to be seen if the newfound Republican resistance to mail-in voting will last or they'll revert back to supporting mail-in voting.
In fact, as far as I can tell, quite literally the only reason Republicans stopped voting by mail is because Trump claimed it was bad for them even though the data conflicted with that perception.
17 Leylinus 2021-02-14
How are you always so wrong when you talk about this all day? This post has no basis in reality.
1 Sudokublackbelt 2021-02-14
This sub is becoming a rightoid safespace.
https://www.dailycitizen.news/news/local_news/in-southern-states-data-show-republicans-have-a-historically-higher-use-of-mail-in-ballots/article_60e1e53a-ed4d-5088-b89c-7f7f7a7fef42.html
1 Leylinus 2021-02-14
That's because in those states absentee voting was generally reserved to the ancient and the disabled (because of the crossover between the two groups).
The pushes to expand absentee to the able bodied didn't come from the right, and right wing opposition to it didn't start with Trump.
Further, if this sub appears even close to right wing in your eyes, you're a hopeless leftoid.
9 Leylinus 2021-02-14
The ones that changed how mail in ballots work in several important swing states. Pennsylvania being the most controversial because the legislature didn't actually make the laws.
-3 adminsare55IQ 2021-02-14
Lmao the PA legislature literally did approve the changes there:
Republicans literally created some alternate reality and kept claiming they didn't, but they did.
Either way, the idea the legislature has to directly approve voting changes was legally incoherent in the first place.
State legislatures have the ability to delegate power and responsibility to various departments of the state government.
The departments making the changes draw their power to do so directly from the legislature. This has always been the case, accepted by both Republicans and democrats, and completely uncontroversial.
That is, right up until Republicans needed to manufacture some reason to claim the election was somehow not fair because the leader of their cult lost.
19 Leylinus 2021-02-14
Actually the controversy I was referring to was the court-made additions, you silly leftoid sperg.
Once again, no idea what's going on. How have you not at least learned things through osmosis?
-5 adminsare55IQ 2021-02-14
List these court added additions bud.
By court added additions, do you mean the court - the legal body in charge of this very thing reading and interpreting the law as written?
9 Leylinus 2021-02-14
Literally just google the words you silly bitch, you can pick a source that you like. Part of it is still being reviewed by the Supreme Court, though I doubt it will go anywhere.
3 adminsare55IQ 2021-02-14
I was being nice and trying to let you back out of your ignorance bud.
There were no "court added additions" to the law. There were some rulings by the court on how the law should be read, but that only impacted a fringe minority of overall ballots.
The no excuse mail-in voting? Approved fully by the government.
The 50 day early voting period? Again, approved fully by the government.
Indeed, the changes to the law that impacted some 99.9% of ballots were fully approved by the state government.
The talking point you're shilling here is in fact about the law as passed by the government:
8 Leylinus 2021-02-14
Cool so you googled and found the court made additions to the law that caused controversy. Glad you're caught up.
4 Whaddaulookinat 2021-02-14
I fucking hate you for having me upvote pizza.
1 Leylinus 2021-02-14
You can hate me for showing you who you are, but don't forget to hate yourself too!
4 Whaddaulookinat 2021-02-14
Already ahead of you... Just told you I upvoted pizza
3 adminsare55IQ 2021-02-14
Are you by chance illiterate?
8 Leylinus 2021-02-14
If you forget already, they're the things you mentioned as only affecting a fringe minority if overall ballots.
That said, your posts are an excellent argument for a life of illiteracy. Teaching you to read obviously accomplished nothing, and teaching you to write has just inflicted you on the rest of us unfortunate enough to know the written word.
0 adminsare55IQ 2021-02-14
They didn't make any additions to the law, the law was read as written by the courts after Republicans tried to warp the law and themselves change what the law said after Trump started throwing a tantrum.
Either way, I'm still waiting for you to show me these court additions to the law.
9 Leylinus 2021-02-14
I wish I didn't know you were a serious poster. Its genuinely depressing.
3 adminsare55IQ 2021-02-14
Responses to points made: 0.
2 WeWuzKANG5 2021-02-14
You'll do fine around here, it's almost like a reincarnation of someone...
4 Funkyduffy 2021-02-14
We the dramautistic people demand a complete and total denunciation of the pizza shill before constructive dialogue can begin
8 BroboxylicAcid 2021-02-14
I didn't read the article because lmao why would I ever, but I gotta say, I honestly can't think of a more perfect state of realpolitik contentment than, "It'll do."
1 Leylinus 2021-02-14
The ones engaging in real politik with this stuff are doing it to please their base. It remains to be seen if it's good enough. So far they seem to have far more control over whether or not protests happen than I'd have expected. I knew BLM wouldn't be back until 2024, but I'm impressed that they could stop all counter protesting. The real test will be after Chauvin is acquitted
For the people on the ground, who are happily accepting their own corporate slavery in order to get endorphins from following what the good guys on tv tell them, seems like a really weak pay off.