Historically only like 40% of men managed to pass their genes (and that's a good thing! Cleansing the gene pool from low quality males is important!), so this is nothing new really. If anything we should be thankful for gaming and the secular decline in T-levels since it practically guarantees that we aren't going to have a revolution or whatever shenanigans sexless men historically entertained themselves with.
According to this study it's cause men cannot flirt.
After all, finding a romantic partner requires a number of skills. People need to know how to flirt in order to attract prospective partners. They also need the ability to understand signals of interest, and put in sufficient amounts of time effort.
Furthermore, for much of human history, mating practices were regulated, “with parents choosing spouses for their children,” as Apostolou writes. This is no longer the case in most societies. Nonetheless, this transition has been a very recent one in evolutionary terms.
That means there has not yet been enough time for poor flirting skills to have been selected out. That is largely because in the past, lacking this skill would not have impaired one’s chances of finding a partner.
It's because Millennials and Zoomers literally have no social skills, from having spent their entire lives isolated in front of screens.
It's painful to watch anybody under the age of 40 attempt to carry on a casual conversation, as they have no experience doing so. Ask them what's their favourite Pokemon or Marvel Superhero though, and they can blather for days. Nobody wants to have sex with a man-child, though.
Doesn't help that those screens are probably filled from crap from /r9k/ and tumblr about how any girlfriend you get will inevitably leave you for a black man or how dating someone several years older than you as an adult is literally pedophilia.
Is it possible men are playing video games instead of tackling their social anxiety and emotional issues? Why worry about putting yourself out there and possibly getting rejected when you get sit inside with an endless dopamine feedback loop.
It's worse than video games - right in the first few paragraphs it explains:
The size of the decline was on a par with the current young generation’s growing distaste for drinking as an explanation as to why casual sex is becoming less common among people in their 20s, according to the study of 2,000 young men and women aged 20 to 24.
Basically they tried to spin it as the fault of men or there "not being enough" men when in reality what happened is female dating standards just moved well beyond what was available.
You'll notice in these articles they frame women as the primary victims and make it seem as if they simply have "no options" when they do have options - date across or down as opposed to up.
Pizza, have you even played Bloodborne? If they put out a new one every month, I'd tell my wife to pack her fucking bags. Its ALSO video games. Its also fun because what are women going to replace being pursued by men with? Not video games I bet! Ho's gonna be mad 24/7.
For women, the biggest factor explaining the decline in their casual sex lives was drinking, which accounted for a quarter of the drop. According to the researchers, no other factor stood out or was statistically significant.
It has nothing to do with standards. Or rather - standards themselves didn't change. They just have these standards 24/7 right now, since they're permanently sober for some reason.
I've read the article, it's just bullshit. There are numerous papers on this subject pointing to the mismatch between standards and reality.
Whenever something like this comes up the people writing about it go out of their way to give the benefit of the doubt to whichever explanation more aligns with standard perceptions.
They could have easily pointed to the multiple papers showing women are extremely picky these days, but they didn't, because that isn't PC.
I can point you to the 30+ articles written by these outlets talking about how "there are no men left" and the plight of the modern woman.
I think part of the problem is also social media and online dating. Back in the day you marry whoever is around. Now women have way more options while men are way less desirable and this is on display in the Tinder stats. The counterbalance is that women like having men to help raise kids and contribute to a household so some many get desperate enough to pluck a few guys out of the dating pool.
People overestimate the effect of online dating. There are 4 men for every woman on Tinder and the other apps are generally about 3:1. Even having 1.5 times the people in one gender will massively fuck up the dynamics, let alone 3+. That also means, statistically, the vast majority of women are not on dating apps. All they really do is erode the confidence of normal men, give hot boys a way to fuck slampigs by tapping on their phones, and give a small minority of women the opportunity to realize at age 35 that none of the men who meet her now comically inflated standards have actually committed to her. Which is because every man can get better women offline.
I do think it's a trend in society in general, but not nearly as bad as it is on the apps. It also means while the turbospergs are wasting their time on dating apps, you can put on your furry top hat and pick up all the women IRL. I like to do day game outside the abortion clinic and night game at Denny's since they're open 24 hours.
I don't like to say incels are right, but if online dating becomes the only way to find a partner, humanity's doomed. I've had some honest conversations with female coworkers that do online dating, and holy shit they're picky...
Exhibit A: Literal cat lady from work, age 45, one day we browsed men's profiles together. "Look this guy looks fun from his bio" -- "nah, he's bald", "and that guy? He has a PhD like you" -- "nah, he has googly eyes..." The thing is the first time I met her I sincerely thought, from the way she looked, that she was a special needs person (and I talked to her very slowly, as if she was r-slurred).
Exhibit B: Chubby girl, so pale she seems albino, age 23, can't maintain eye contact, stammers, loves breadtube, is probably autis-slurred. One day she spent 10 minutes complaining about the quality of men on Tinder, with crimes such as having graduation photos with "that stupid hat".
Holy shit, at if I couldn't do piano playing gigs I might have ended up an incel with this climate.
There's nothing wrong with having standards. Do you want to force women to date guys who are objectively unattractive or have an incompatible sense of taste?
Womxn all think they're as hot as the hottest guy who has ever nutted on them. Meanwhile, that guy still has nightmares about the experience and significantly cut down on his drinking afterward.
Incels are right about everything, it's just most people know that but don't act like they have just discovered a theory that unifies classical mechanics, classical electromagnetism, classical thermodynamics, quantum mechanics, and relativity.
62 comments
6 BussySundae 2021-03-09
give us the inside scoop on the incels shill
3 adminsare55IQ 2021-03-09
No scoops rly. It's just alarming how often they're right just by assuming the opposite of whatever mainstream society believes is true.
Kind of like the MAGA effect except on a larger scale.
3 DeanofPSU 2021-03-09
Are they really incels? Looks pretty voluntary.
4 adminsare55IQ 2021-03-09
We're approaching 30% sexless rates for men. Once they realize it isn't the video games we're gonna have a real problem on our hands.
1 ArachnoLibrarian 2021-03-09
Historically only like 40% of men managed to pass their genes (and that's a good thing! Cleansing the gene pool from low quality males is important!), so this is nothing new really. If anything we should be thankful for gaming and the secular decline in T-levels since it practically guarantees that we aren't going to have a revolution or whatever shenanigans sexless men historically entertained themselves with.
1 lol_te_gusto 2021-03-09
This frees up resources for my offspring, aides in population control.
Uggos should be happy they're making other people happy by not burdening society
1 PUBLIQclopAccountant 2021-03-09
This but without any irony
1 fameda 2021-03-09
According to this study it's cause men cannot flirt.
1 fernguts 2021-03-09
It's because Millennials and Zoomers literally have no social skills, from having spent their entire lives isolated in front of screens.
It's painful to watch anybody under the age of 40 attempt to carry on a casual conversation, as they have no experience doing so. Ask them what's their favourite Pokemon or Marvel Superhero though, and they can blather for days. Nobody wants to have sex with a man-child, though.
2 Arachnotron69 2021-03-09
Doesn't help that those screens are probably filled from crap from /r9k/ and tumblr about how any girlfriend you get will inevitably leave you for a black man or how dating someone several years older than you as an adult is literally pedophilia.
1 GaysianSupremacist 2021-03-09
B-but as an INTJ, small talking is literally letting my whole family and myself raped by dogs!1!1!!
1 lol_te_gusto 2021-03-09
Just being a good listener is half of it...
1 adminsare55IQ 2021-03-09
Oh fucking please.
1 Arachnotron69 2021-03-09
A sign of autism is an inability to read social cues. Flirting is part of that.
1 AugustinesBitchBoy 2021-03-09
Is it possible men are playing video games instead of tackling their social anxiety and emotional issues? Why worry about putting yourself out there and possibly getting rejected when you get sit inside with an endless dopamine feedback loop.
1 lol_te_gusto 2021-03-09
This is good news actually
1 idio3 2021-03-09
It's worse than video games - right in the first few paragraphs it explains:
What is wrong with zoomers?..
3 VALIS666 2021-03-09
Less fucking, less drinking. Airtight explanation why the internet is the way it is.
1 DeanofPSU 2021-03-09
News flash, video games better than pussy. More at 11.
2 adminsare55IQ 2021-03-09
Hint: it isn't video games. Women have become completely detached from reality and have standards through the roof.
Their standards are so absurdly removed from reality it isn't even funny.
This started becoming a problem years ago, you can track it through the media with articles like this:
Basically they tried to spin it as the fault of men or there "not being enough" men when in reality what happened is female dating standards just moved well beyond what was available.
You'll notice in these articles they frame women as the primary victims and make it seem as if they simply have "no options" when they do have options - date across or down as opposed to up.
4 freckleburger2 2021-03-09
I can see why you've never gotten laid.
3 adminsare55IQ 2021-03-09
I mean you're incorrect. Maybe respond to the points.
1 BroboxylicAcid 2021-03-09
Seriously. Only a man who's been laid and never laid again could be so wanting.
1 Doctor-Pavel 2021-03-09
if pizza is so heckin valid mod him to SRD coward
1 BroboxylicAcid 2021-03-09
I suppose I could arrange for the same offer we gave Masterlawlz.
2 DeanofPSU 2021-03-09
Pizza, have you even played Bloodborne? If they put out a new one every month, I'd tell my wife to pack her fucking bags. Its ALSO video games. Its also fun because what are women going to replace being pursued by men with? Not video games I bet! Ho's gonna be mad 24/7.
2 adminsare55IQ 2021-03-09
Let's be clear here: I played wow at a competitive level for 10 years and have gotten level 100 in POE over 40 times.
I know what video games are, I have played a lot of video games. It isn't the fucking video games.
1 DeanofPSU 2021-03-09
Did you play Sacrifice league? I didn't like it. Glad I didn't even get to 90. I've never had a lvl 100, I'm not a pro like you.
1 adminsare55IQ 2021-03-09
Ritual you mean?
1 DeanofPSU 2021-03-09
Yeah, that. I thought I might have had it wrong, but I'm American so fuck it, I went for it.
What a shitty league mechanic. Its like opening a lockbox with the stream of moster mod. Constantly.
1 adminsare55IQ 2021-03-09
One of the more rewarding mechanics they've put in the game if done correctly.
Either way, the real league was the xpac and the maven system.
1 DeanofPSU 2021-03-09
Ahh, I play incredibly inefficiently. I never do the endgame content. I suck shit at it all too.
1 lol_te_gusto 2021-03-09
Are you fat?
1 ohheckyeah 2021-03-09
Sheesh... thank god I’m attractive and make money. I’ve been dragging my dick through the swamp of female desperation for years
1 lol_te_gusto 2021-03-09
Yeah. Article is just pulling random conjectures as to why videogam3s are easier than relationships
1 Homofascism 2021-03-09
The issues is even deeper than this. Feminism succeeded in making womxn equals to men.
But womxn want people who are better off than them.
Of course they don't talk about it, because the only logical solution is womxn should be paid less.
1 GaysianSupremacist 2021-03-09
I mean if your only interest and passion is vidya than maybe you deserve being a virgin at 40.
1 idio3 2021-03-09
Dude, read your own fucking OP:
It has nothing to do with standards. Or rather - standards themselves didn't change. They just have these standards 24/7 right now, since they're permanently sober for some reason.
1 adminsare55IQ 2021-03-09
I've read the article, it's just bullshit. There are numerous papers on this subject pointing to the mismatch between standards and reality.
Whenever something like this comes up the people writing about it go out of their way to give the benefit of the doubt to whichever explanation more aligns with standard perceptions.
They could have easily pointed to the multiple papers showing women are extremely picky these days, but they didn't, because that isn't PC.
I can point you to the 30+ articles written by these outlets talking about how "there are no men left" and the plight of the modern woman.
2 PUBLIQclopAccountant 2021-03-09
2-D > 3-D
1 mechakingghidorah 2021-03-09
Hmmmm 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔
1 Arachnotron69 2021-03-09
These are the people who spend all their damn time on 4chan.
1 busslordlowkeybussin 2021-03-09
I think part of the problem is also social media and online dating. Back in the day you marry whoever is around. Now women have way more options while men are way less desirable and this is on display in the Tinder stats. The counterbalance is that women like having men to help raise kids and contribute to a household so some many get desperate enough to pluck a few guys out of the dating pool.
1 ason 2021-03-09
People overestimate the effect of online dating. There are 4 men for every woman on Tinder and the other apps are generally about 3:1. Even having 1.5 times the people in one gender will massively fuck up the dynamics, let alone 3+. That also means, statistically, the vast majority of women are not on dating apps. All they really do is erode the confidence of normal men, give hot boys a way to fuck slampigs by tapping on their phones, and give a small minority of women the opportunity to realize at age 35 that none of the men who meet her now comically inflated standards have actually committed to her. Which is because every man can get better women offline.
2 busslordlowkeybussin 2021-03-09
Lmao
Good point it's pretty easy to look at those stats and think they apply to 100% of the population.
1 ason 2021-03-09
I do think it's a trend in society in general, but not nearly as bad as it is on the apps. It also means while the turbospergs are wasting their time on dating apps, you can put on your furry top hat and pick up all the women IRL. I like to do day game outside the abortion clinic and night game at Denny's since they're open 24 hours.
1 trosdetio 2021-03-09
I don't like to say incels are right, but if online dating becomes the only way to find a partner, humanity's doomed. I've had some honest conversations with female coworkers that do online dating, and holy shit they're picky...
Exhibit A: Literal cat lady from work, age 45, one day we browsed men's profiles together. "Look this guy looks fun from his bio" -- "nah, he's bald", "and that guy? He has a PhD like you" -- "nah, he has googly eyes..." The thing is the first time I met her I sincerely thought, from the way she looked, that she was a special needs person (and I talked to her very slowly, as if she was r-slurred).
Exhibit B: Chubby girl, so pale she seems albino, age 23, can't maintain eye contact, stammers, loves breadtube, is probably autis-slurred. One day she spent 10 minutes complaining about the quality of men on Tinder, with crimes such as having graduation photos with "that stupid hat".
Holy shit, at if I couldn't do piano playing gigs I might have ended up an incel with this climate.
1 Tagesausbruch 2021-03-09
There's nothing wrong with having standards. Do you want to force women to date guys who are objectively unattractive or have an incompatible sense of taste?
3 Apprehensive-Quote83 2021-03-09
I want women to stop dating men.
2 trosdetio 2021-03-09
God forbid objectively unattractive kweens date someone not out of their league
1 Homofascism 2021-03-09
The less womxn date men the better tbh.
1 ason 2021-03-09
Womxn all think they're as hot as the hottest guy who has ever nutted on them. Meanwhile, that guy still has nightmares about the experience and significantly cut down on his drinking afterward.
1 idio3 2021-03-09
To be fair, that is pretty cringe, though...
4 trosdetio 2021-03-09
She's so neurodivergent that today I removed the wrapper of a new pen and that simple noise startled her.
1 GaysianSupremacist 2021-03-09
Incels are right about everything, it's just most people know that but don't act like they have just discovered a theory that unifies classical mechanics, classical electromagnetism, classical thermodynamics, quantum mechanics, and relativity.
1 Zozbot 2021-03-09
zoz
1 Zozbot 2021-03-09
zle
1 Zozbot 2021-03-09
zozzle
1 GeauxHouston22 2021-03-09
video games are for children.
1 artemis_m_oswald 2021-03-09
Casual sex is an outlet for emotional energy. So are video games. Video games are just easier to obtain
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1 CaliggyJack 2021-03-09
Good. Overpopulation is a thing and we need to cut back on the breeding.
Breedcels coping