👩🏻📢 Stop being fatphobic and date me, bigot 💅🏻

1  2021-05-29 by JanetYellensFuckboy

237 comments

How in the fuck are fat people "marginalized."

Not to mention being fat shows the personality of a person.

  • poor self-control.

  • no concern for their own health.

  • lazy.

These are all choices a person makes. Refusing to date someone for making bad choices is completely acceptable and within the sphere of "preference."

Just like not dating someone that's bad with money is (a choice) just like not dating someone that does drugs or drinks heavily (both choices.)

So not only are fat people not marginalized (how can most of the population be marginalized??) being fat is a choice, full stop.

The confidence in which this woman repeated her fallacious bullshit was infuriating.

choosing to eat vegetables over doritos is actually anti gamer oppression

Like 75% or the Earth's surface is covered in flavorless Mountain Dew

Even stranger, most of it is even saltier than Pizza (the food and the LOLCOW).

Gamers will be the most oppressed minority on Earth until the day Pepsico finally invents Dorito-flavored Mountain Dew. :(

Gamers will be the most oppressed minority on Earth

I'll just pretend you stopped there and that your comment was a prophetic vision insh'allah🙏🏿🙏🏿

if anything fat people are marginalizing us, literally, to the edge of our airplane seats

From each according to his roominess, to each according to his girthiness

How in the fuck are fat people "marginalized."

No matter the angle, fatties will always touch all 4 margins of any picture you take of them.

right, the easiest way to marginalize fat people would be to make them lose weight so they don’t take up so much damn space

Pizza do you only have reasonable takes about women ?

You some kind of idiot savant?

Every take I have is reasonable. You're just biased so the other takes seem unreasonable to you.

“Every take I have is reasonable”.

No 🍕

Which isn't?

Most

Be specific, name 1.

I’m not arguing with you pizza I don’t need paragraphs of trash to not read just so I can respond with cope 🤷‍♀️

When I rekt you about the Boomer bee

Literally delusional. You tried to claim the bee was a real satire website and snopes was somehow fact-checking them because snopes didn't know.

🐝🐝🐝

The one where you thought POJOM was datable and then that it was a good idea to post your picture of your tongue in her mouth.

That wasn't even pojo?

I always get a laugh out of how misinformed you people are, yet so confident in your ignorance at the same time.

Oh sorry, I mistook one ugly skank for another. I'll try to keep them straight next time.

Ok virgin.

Remember when you were one bad day away from joining the alt-right?

Them sleepless nights

One can only imagine the adderall-induced screeds a rīghtoīd 🍕 would have had 😔😔

Not even that, but people who like being active can’t really date an obese person without excluding them from their activities lol. Like you enjoy hiking, biking, rock climbing, or anything really besides powerlifting? If you’re fucking obese you can’t actively participate in those without it being a detriment to the other people (having to constantly stop or go at a slow pace or change the route).

When I was a raging drunk I at least had the wherewithal to realize that it’s not something that people probably find attractive or a desirable trait. So I quit fucking drinking and picked up other hobbies and all of a sudden it was easier to meet girls!

If you want to be fat, that’s fine, I don’t give a fuck. But people aren’t required to fucking find you attractive. If you have to take weird angles and hide your body in all your pictures, maybe you aren’t as happy with your body as you think

So I quit fucking drinking and picked up other hobbies and all of a sudden it was easier to meet girls!

Wait, I trained myself to be a functioning alcoholic in college for net negative hookups? Fuck

net negative hookups

rofl

You guys are doing something wrong. I was in my early 30s when I went to college and if I got blasted at a party I was more likely than not to wake up next to some poor girl with low self-esteem and daddy issues.

get fat once and face the oppression yourself

I saw +100 comments and knew this had to be your handiwork. Nice job.

Tbh its a pretty reasonable take for 🍕

also fat people are a majority in America lmao

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Consent is only a thing for women. If you're a man, you're required to fuck any fatty or train that demands it of you. If you refuse, you're a disgusting Nazi pig.

Be better, chud.

pizza what is with your username, i feel like i've seen a ton of accounts with the same name but different numbers.

I pressed random name generator, that's why you're seeing so many of the same name.

How have you created so many alts that you couldn’t come up with your own names anymore?

Your pulitzer’s in the mail

Fuck I miss longpostbot 😔😔😔

They have the biggest margins around

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How in the fuck are fat people "marginalized."

Yeah fat people can't even fit in the margins

Being fatphobic is just indirect classism that lets wealthy people shit on the poors who can't afford healthy food (and coincidentally are much more likely to be overweight than the wealthy).

Being fat is more expensive than eating healthy.

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Yeah I am. You can literally buy good, healthy food for very cheap if you know what you are doing.

This is about people being stupid, not money.

I had this argument with a 400 pound friend of mine that convinced me he had to eat fast food because other foods were too expensive.

I gave him a list of food to buy that was not only cheaper than what he was eating before, but all healthy.

What are you saying then, poor people are stupid?

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The education system does a very bad job teaching people life skills is what I am saying.

I have seen countless people putting pepsi in a bottle and giving it to a 5 year old.

So yes.

I mean I don't know if they're literally stupid, there's just a gap in education.

It's still classism to shit on people who are more likely to be poor, whether that's fat people or people with a bad education.

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fuck the poors

I grew up about as poor as a person can be in America.

i was poor so I can't be classist

cool

Being poor is no excuse to not understand why giving a 5 year old pepsi is dumb.

I don't know if they're literally stupid, there's just a gap in education

calls them dumb 2 posts later

Calling something dumb and a person dumb = 2 different things.

Wasn’t your family in real estate or construction and you made enough money to never work again

Yes, but it wasn't always this way. Basically my mom left my family and fled to Ohio when I was 2 and thus disconnected from her side of the family.

I grew up on my dads side of the family, only when I was 15 when did my mom leave my dad, and move back to Florida.

My uncle on my moms side owns the business.

Poverty is also choice just like being fat

I take it you never were made do accounting in math class then.

Teaching life skills in high schools doesn't fucking work.

I would use the term uneducated, because they don’t have the same opportunities to learn as normal people but yes

Damn just think about all those fat poor people in rural China that just can't get healthy food.

The correlation you're seeing isn't "poor" correlating to an inability to afford decent food. What you're seeing is the correlation between "poor" and making shitty choices. I spent less on food when I was eating nothing but salads. Of course, I have professional culinary training, it's probably a little harder for people who can't boil water.

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You're oversimplifying a complex situation to the point of no longer adding anything useful to the discussion.

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You get fat from eating too many carbs. Carbs are FAR cheaper than nutritious foods

Edit for dumb fucks that don't get what's being argued: if you eat 4000 calories of sugar everyday you will get fat, 4000 calories of sugar costs about $1. If you can't find 2000 calories of healthy food (to sustain your weight) for less than $1 the statement "being fat is more expensive than eating healthy " is objectively false.

Edit #2 for the ultra fucking dense people that still aren't getting it, you can make ONE comment to counter my argument and that is to show that you can "eat healthy" with 2000 calories for less than $1. That's literally the only comment that could prove me wrong.

You get fat from intaking more calories than your body needs to function.

If you are fat, it's because you have decided to be fat. Even if we were to apply the most generous papers here, eating healthy is about a dollar more per day.

And sure, genes and age don't play any part whatsoever.

EDIT for the slow: They do.

It is impossible to be fat if you eat well and do not intake more calories than you need.

Outside of having some very rare disease (which applies to almost nobody, btw) if you are fat you got that way by choice.

Sure, but for some people, it's a lot harder since even eating relatively little will keep them fat, and then they're starving all the time, which is a little bit like torture.

You can't "little" and stay fat dude.

This is literally calories lmao.

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Carbs are by far the absolute cheapest calories you can buy. When you eat cards it spikes your blood sugar which releases insulin that traps those calories into fat, which rapidly lowers your blood sugar making you hungry again. 😲 Eating nutritionally dense food will keep you feeling full much longer and naturally letting you eat less. Nutritionally dense food is an order of magnitude more expensive than cheap carbs by weight.

I get what you're trying to say, that you can get much healthier food for cheaper than fast food which is true. But you said "being fat is more expensive" which is objectively false. Add up the price of 4000 calories of pasta or hell straight sugar and compare it to the price of 2000 calories of healthy food.

I have looked at it, even under the most generous assumptions towards the fat people eating healthy is a bit over a dollar more per day:

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/12/e004277

Let's not muddy the waters with comparing the price of food in 3rd world countries. Add up 2000 calories of healthy food at average US cost and compare

That wasn't 3rd world countries lol.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/healthy-vs-unhealthy-diet-costs-1-50-more/

To address this question, the HSPH researchers conducted a meta-analysis of 27 existing studies from 10 high-income countries that included price data for individual foods and for healthier vs. less healthy diets. They evaluated the differences in prices per serving and per 200 calories for particular types of foods, and prices per day and per 2,000 calories (the United States Department of Agriculture’s recommended average daily calorie intake for adults) for overall diet patterns. Both prices per serving and per calorie were assessed because prices can vary depending on the unit of comparison.

There's 1,755 calories in 1lb of sugar. You can get 10lbs for less than $5. That's 17,550 calories for less than $5. Try to find $5 "healthy food" that comes anywhere close to that

Are you seriously trying to compare a fucking pound of sugar to calories?

You can't even live off of a pound of sugar dude.

You have to at least make realistic comparisons.

Some dramautists eating nothing but spoonfuls of sugar every day would explain some things

Yes I am because you said "Being fat is more expensive" and I'm showing you, no it is not in anyway more expensive to be fat, whether you chose to eat like that or not, it is absolutely cheaper to get fat than eat healthy

It is though, if you apply nuance to this. The food might be slightly cheaper (this is debatable, with correct choices it's fairly equal and even cheaper to eat healthy.)

But you have:

  • added medical costs.

  • Buying bigger clothes over time.

  • Increased food demands as you get fatter.

If you want to really get into this:

This is similar to the list I gave a friend:

https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/cheap-healthy-15-nutritious-foods-about-2-dollars

I am telling you this diet right here is likely cheaper than what your average fat person is spending on fast food.

Many of these foods are under 1 dollar a serving.

If you want to add all that shit then add the fact that you'll die within a year of eating straight sugar so you save on 50-60 years worth of expenses so again, it's not even close. It's FAR cheaper to be fat

Come on man.

If you said something like "it's more expensive to get fat off fast food" you might have a point but that's not what you said

It's more expensive across the board to be fat dude lol.

Like just the increased medical costs alone make it more expensive.

And like I said - it's not like healthy food is more expensive when you buy it correctly.

What you really mean is people want to intake vastly more than 2k calories a day without spending more money.

Like yeah, I could go buy 30k calories in soda for pretty cheap. But that isn't going to sustain you.

Even if you were to eat shitty food daily, as long as you took in fewer calories than you needed to gain weight, you'd still not be fat.

What's happening here is people are intaking 3500 calories a day.

Then don't eat more than you need lol

Stop lying fatty cico is a thing

17,550 calories for $4.69 at target from sugar. 12,430 calories for $5.99 from crisco

Is this supposed to mean something? I think the fat went to your 🧠 sad

What kind of fat fuck eats pounds of sugar

I'm just arguing facts here, it is objectively cheaper to get fat than eat healthy. You brought up crisco so I'm comparing prices per calories

I said cico retard , Calories in calories out

Of course a fatty would think that I’m saying to actually go and try to eat lard

My mistake. However you're missing the point entirely. Unless you can find 2000 calories in healthy food that costs less than 4000 calories of pure sugar the statement "being fat is more expensive" is absolutely not true

You do not understand cico it does not matter what you eat just the caloric content is what makes you fat
just don’t eat more calories than your body burns and you will loose weigh for sure

I understand that perfectly well but that's not what is being argued here, if you can't keep up then run along

If you buy less food you spend less money

If your calories are cheaper you spend less money what's your point? Keep up or stfu

My point is eating less costs less it’s not that hard

Not eating at all doesn't cost anything. That has fuck all to do with what is being argued. Is it possible to get fat for $1 a day? Yes. Is it possible to eat healthy for less than $1 a day? No. Which makes the statement false. That is the only thing being argued here.

Let me spell this out for you because you seem exceptionally slow: The only relevant thing you could add to the argument is showing me how you can eat 2000 calories worth of healthy foods for less than $1

who the fuck is eating bags of sugar?

Doesn't matter, is it possible to get fat for $1 day? Yes. Is it possible to eat healthy for less than $1 a day? No. Which makes the statement false. Bottom line.

2000 calories of sugar is healthier than 4000 calories of sugar and less money. Looks like healthier is cheaper. Bottom line.

"Healthier" was not in the statement that's being argued. "Being fat is more expensive than eating healthy." 2000 calories of sugar is not "eating healthy" try again.

Use context clues, dumbass. What's being argued is that being fat is more expensive than being skinny.

Oh you're going to tell me what I've been arguing about since before you even got here? Fuck off, I'm arguing his statement is wrong and unless you can show me that you can "eat healthy" and get 2000 calories for less than $1 it stands that it is wrong. Quit trying to move the goalposts.

lmao. that's the whole point. whatever you've been arguing since before I even got here is some idiotic point with no connection to the real world. yeah, a bag of sugar, which no one is eating, costs less than something healthier. great, now back to a topic with some relevance

yeah, a bag of sugar costs less than something healthier.

Thanks for finally admitting I'm right

You are probably the dumbest lolcow I have seen on this sub. Who tf brings up the price of raw sugar when arguing about if heathy or unhealthy foods are more expensive. I can eat the dirt on my lawn for free (so $0 a calorie) which will be healthier than subsiding on raw sugar. You fat people don’t deserve the right to vote

Because the statement was

being fat is more expensive than eating healthy

You can be fat for $1 a day, you cannot "eat healthy" for less than $1 a day. I've made clear my argument multiple times and yet here you are, the densest mother fucker yet, still not getting it.

You won’t get fat for $1 of sugar per day, you will literally die. This is a stupid argument. I did research and built models in college about optimal food pricing and it concluded healthy, homemade foods are generally far more cheaper per essential nutrients and assuming a 2,000 calorie constraint. And this is before including additional healthcare costs from eating unhealthy. You have no idea what you are talking about

I've already shown you can get 17,550 calories for $4.69 which equals roughly $1 for 4000 calories. Will you die eventually? Yep. Will you get fat first? Yep.

So again "being fat is more expensive than eating healthy" is flat out wrong

You literally cannot eat sugar as a meal and it literally is not a food item, just a molecule that tastes good (kind of like how the Romans used lead as a sweetener, are you going to say that is also a food). By your logic I can get unlimited calories for free by eating dirt. Your belief that healthy foods is more expensive has no basis in reality (I would know since I literally did research and wrote a paper on it and there are plenty of other studies) and your argument of sugar is deranged.

Dirt doesn't have calories you single digit iq dumb fuck. Sugar does. 4000 calories per day will get you fat. 4000 calories of sugar costs ~$1 you cannot "eat healthy" for less than that. You dumb fuck as I've already said, multiple times, if you can't show that the the statement "being fat is more expensive than eating healthy" is flat out wrong stfu. So please show me how you can "eat healthy" for less than $1 a day or shut the fuck up

Rice and beans dipshit. A 10lbs bag is dirt cheap and will feed you for a month for less than $1 a day. Even those $1 ramen packs won’t get you fat

"rice and beans" is not healthy, try again

Not super healthy, but it is. How about a homemade veggie sandwich. A dollar’s worth of ingredients is a full meal for me

Let's see the math

You cannot survive on less than 2000 calories. I want to see how you're getting 2000 calories from "veggie sandwiches" add up the price too

Just eat less of what you're already eating and you'll lose weight 😂

Did you ever consider perhaps eating less of the cheap, high-calorie food, or does someone force you to shovel food down your potato trap until you can't cram any more in?

Did you even read my comment? I know it's possible to eat less, hell you could starve your self which costs literally nothing but that not what was fucking said. It IS possible to get fat for $1 per day. It is NOT possible to eat healthy for less than $1 per day. Therefore the statement "being fat is more expensive than eating healthy" is objectively wrong.

I clearly spelled out what was being argued and you're still too fucking dense that you bring up irrelevant arguments that other people have already made. Fucking hell man..

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How much do you weigh, and are you vegan?

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A burger and chips costs more than a salad

Ableism is based and good

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  • poor self-control.

  • no concern for their own health.

  • lazy.

These are all choices a person makes.

Literally none of that is a choice. Literally nobody ever woke up and decided that they are going to have poor self control, or be lazy, or be unconcerned about their health. These are personality traits and people don't choose their personality traits. These personality traits lead to bad choices and it's fair not to date people who consistently make bad choices, but let's be fair, the point is that you're not dating fatties because they are consistently shitty people, not for some bad spur of the moment choices they made.

Literally all of that is a choice. You have absolute control over your actions, the type of person you are, and how you respond to your environment.

Anyone telling you otherwise is making excuses.

Why would anyone choose to have poor self control?

Mental fucking training. I crawled my way out of the depths. I'm well aware of how possible this is.

People who are out of shape will do everything besides changing the habits that made them that way. It’s fucking draining trying to tell people “well if you want to lose weight you can try substituting some of the bad parts of your diet with good ones! Cut down on your drinking, switch to diet soda, avoid high calorie coffee drinks, go on a few walks a day and you’ll be surprised at how much you’ll lose!” And they’ll just say “no my metabolism sucks and I have a thyroid problem and it’s not the fact I’m 5’ tall and eat a pizza for dinner with a glass of wine and cake for desert without any actual meaningful excercise.” I’ve basically given up trying to help people lose weight. My advice to people now is to find a hobby they enjoy (lifting, biking, or whatever) and if they find that they’ll lose weight since it helps them succeed in the hobby. Trying to convince someone they have bad habits is fucking impossible

Or the most common response... “I’ve tried that before, it doesn’t work”... that’s because you didn’t fucking do it fatty

If a fatty has to drink soda, diet is better than the rancid corn syrup in a can/bottle, but I lost about eight pounds when I gave up soda completely. If you eat the right stuff you can absolutely gorge yourself and still lose weight.

You seem to have misread the question, try again.

I actually read it completely fine. If you have a problem (poor self control) and actions exist in which you can correct said problem and you decide not do it, you are making a choice to stay the way you are, and have poor self control.

What if I decide to correct my poor self control but can't take the necessary actions because I have poor self control?

Any problem can be overcome if a sufficient will is applied.

Any problem can be overcome if a sufficient will is applied.

Even the problem of having insufficient will?

Pizza, you unwittingly walked into a problem that has bothered the finest libertarian (not the kiddie diddler kind. Well, not all of them hopefully) minds for centuries, and I'm telling you, so far the only known acceptable solution is that yes, you can and should punish (as a state) or personally avoid (as a person) people based on who they are, while admitting that ultimately it wasn't their choice to become who they are.

I am very much of the Viktor Frankl style of thought.

If people in holocaust camps can have control over their minds, so can you.

* some people.

Dude, you're literally employing badly camouflaged circular logic and refuse to admit it, for no good reason too since I've explained to you what is the proper philosophical approach that leads to the same conclusions.

Again, you just can't say that the people who couldn't fix their willpower problem due to not enough willpower are to blame because of their "choice" to not do it because there is no possible world in which they have that severe willpower problem but successfully choose to fix it (and no, introducing randomness doesn't help with assigning blame on them either). You misuse the word "choice" like the USSR called elections with a single candidate "elections".

Being lazy/having poor self-control is a choice.

No matter what, you are what you choose to be.

Look, sometimes it is. There's a lot of heroin addicts, probably even the majority, who are, like, I just really like heroin, OK? (this, too, presents philosophical problems: was it their choice to really like heroin? No, one can't choose that, or choose to choose that, or choose to choose to choose that no matter how you spin it)

But your attempt to dismiss the heroin addicts who want to kick the habit but can't because they don't have sufficient willpower, because they don't have sufficient willpower to cultivate sufficient willpower, because they don't have sufficient willpower to ... is just really bad logic.

We just have different worldviews.

I grew up poor, in the ghetto, half of my family has died to opioids.

I self-educated myself due to educational neglect and made it into college, a good college at that.

I came from a terrible environment, with not many choices offered to me.

I watched my father OD on drugs 4+ times by the age of 14. I 2 of my cousins die to ODs as well.

I had no self-control, no willpower to change my being until I decided one day enough was enough and crawled my way out.

You can do anything you want to do if you want to do it.

You can do anything you want to do if you want to do it.

What about the people who can't want to do it with the required intensity?

Look, have you tried not scratching your nose when it starts itching? And that covers just the first, surface level of the freedom of will problem, deeper levels have inconvenient questions like "OK, you managed five seconds without scratching that itch, is that because you trained yourself to do that?", then "why did you train yourself to do that purposeless thing?", then "why did you train yourself to train yourself to ... ?", then "why don't you train yourself to become a train woman since women have it better than men in today's world?"

I understand the argument you're making. The free will problem is complex and been a serious point of conflict for a long time.

I am simply of the view that you can do anything you want if you try hard enough.

People with poor self control have poor self-control due to environmental factors most often.

Do you agree that it's OK to avoid people with poor self-control because of who they are (people making bad choices), not because of the choices as such (because it's the tendency, not the particular events that predicts the future)?

Let's try this another way.

Have people lost self-control since the 1960s?

Do people in Canada have more self-control than people in America?

Do people in France have more self-control than people in America?

Likely not, correct? So that alone should tell you this is a cultural/environmental issue as opposed to some kind of innate free-will problem.

But sure, I think avoiding people due to poor self-control is completely ok, if they aren't willing to make efforts to fix it.

Wait, you're fucking up your own point scoring a major self-goal, it's really weird to assume that the people in the US suddenly got exceptionally bad self-control issues compared to Canada and France and themselves in 1960s, and way more reasonable to assume that subsidies for the HFCS and the general idea that eating fat makes people fat while eating sugar makes people active and thin promoted by the FDA resulted in that. Or maybe American-specific plastics, idk!

Like, in what world do you think that comparing the fatness issue between the most American Dream "you can achieve anything if you really work for it" nation in the world that the trope is named after and some other nations that don't even bother about the issue at all doesn't point at exogeneous sources of the problem?

I think you're missing my point. It's fully possible to eat healthy still for cheap.

The issue is they aren't smart enough to do so and also aren't smart enough to search out a way to do so.

Every country has subsidies like this, every country has a lot of junk food.

Across the board it's them simply not caring enough to change themselves, not that they lack the ability to change themselves, is what I was trying to say.

So it all comes back around to fat = a choice. Because if they cared enough about being fat, they'd go over to google.com and find the answers they need.

you are partially correct, it is not a choice to have poor self control, but it is a choice to not fix that poor self control when it has negative consequences like being a fatass.

Read the rest of the thread, please.

They don't have some sort of quality called "poor self control" that dictates their choices. That's just what we call it when shitty people make shitty choices over and over again.

Because its easy and lazy?

Literally nobody ever woke up and decided that they are going to have poor self control, or be lazy, or be unconcerned about their health.

This can't be true. I am purposely lazy and unconcerned about my health. People keep saying, "if you don't take better care of yourself it will take years off your life." To which I respond "yeah, but it's the years at the end of your life where you shit yourself, lose your mind and memory, and are an immense pain in everyone's ass." Who the fuck wants more of those years?

A preference is liking people who kayak

That woman cannot fit into a kayak.

Michael did nothing wrong

NTA

My immediate thought when she said that.

Also, what rslurred example is that?

Imagine if you approached some fronthole, and she said "oh sorry teehee, I only date guys who kayak"

I wouldnt call that a preference, I'd call that rslurred and insane standards. And then thank her for reminding me why I dont voluntarily associate with f0ids.

The day of the staircase approaches inshallah

May all fat white womyn get their comeuppance through staircases Inshallah

May Allah break the backs of these disease-ridden walruses

The elevator and its consequences have been a disaster for human fitness standards.

fat tax NOW

Already exists. It's called medical bills 🇺🇸

if they are on medicare then you're paying for that

2% times your BMI if you're overweight.

This is the type of f**d to request only 6'2+

Sorry sweetie, Chad only.

She looks batshit insane.

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And the batshit insanity.

Seriously, she might land a chubby chaser if it weren’t for her personality.

She could still get it, but you have to make it absolutely clear the next day that you are no longer interested and that she is to not make eye contact with you in public.

Also....are fat people an oppressed class?

Yes, and that's a good thing.

Marginalized? More like margarinalized 🤢

The most deranged part is the person claiming that "bestie" is a word only PoC can use. Lmao wtf?

https://twitter.com/StorytellerBB/status/1398481384629424130?s=20

California f*ids on suicide watch

isn't "bestie" yt people shit?

It's because of a song about a best friend made by a female rapper who is ironically appropriating the word from white women

And I'm absolutely not joking

"Bestie" is the most 🐕💄🧠 thing ever lmao

👩🏻📢

🐷📢*

When whte fids use the term problematic I instantly know they're batshit

"Problematic" is something stupid people say to sound smart not realizing that people who are actually intelligent know that all they're saying is that they don't like whatever it is they're referring to as problematic but they can't articulate why they don't like it.

someone who likes kayaking

This bitch definitely does not kayak. Maybe that should just be the euphemism.

She sure looked excited right after that when she mentioned pizza though.

Kayaking around whales would scare the shit out of me.

They live super long. What if they remember that time 30 years ago when a Japanese whaling boat tried to kill them?

Maybe decide that today is the day to get revenge?

white w*men were a mistake.

I don't know who needs to hear this, but getting up early is not a personality trait.

A lot of people need to hear that, actually

all this talk about sexual preferences being bigoted is so bizarre

you aren't gonna talk this dick into getting hard lady

Maybe she's trying to attract men with a guilt fetish?

Have sex femcel

Seems like she's trying to🤭

Why the f are these sjw tiktoks always condescending as fuck

The wingcuck is incapable of understanding differences in opinion, so the only reason you could possibly disagree would be that you're either a being of pure hatred and all things bad or you're a literal child who just hasn't seen the golden light yet.

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The funny thing is, there are plenty of people who prefer fat women like her, their preference is "bbw, big beautiful women", a euphemism for fat women. She's just upset because she doesn't like those same men, who are probably fat too. She's oppressed because ripped 6'2" Chad doesn't want to fuck her. Oppression is when Chad won't fuck u

I love how she talks about preferences for somebody to date and goes with "If they like Pizza" Bitch that ain't a preference you fucking muppet 😂

It's the fat getting into their brain causing them to think that food choices are a dating preference.

Loving the replies. Apparently "bestie" is part of AAVE slang now

So if my preference is someone who hits the gym, I'm no longer problematic?

She should do what every white land whale does date a black guy

"Catch a bubble in your mouth"

What the fuck did she mean by this

it's a way white people use to make kids shut up instead of just hitting them like regular people

Well I've never heard it before and if I ever hear it again I'm gonna fucking end myself.

Something tells me she teaches preschool.

She talks like she thinks she is a Disney princess. 🤢

Who is that?

This has to be a troll.
Nobody can be so unaware.

That would imply whte wmen understand what jokes are

It's not about jokes, but about attention.
And TikTok is full with plenty of ragebaiters that do/say purposely retarded shit to rile people up and get views that way.

And she just pushes those buttons way to good to be completely oblivious about it.

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Legalize buffalo huntin'