Basically in 2004 when the victim originally went to the police the DA thought they didn't have enough evidence to win in court. An agreement was struck for Cosby to testify in a civil suit where his fifth amendment protections would be waived. In turn the DA agreed not to use the four separate depositions (where he repeatedly incriminates himself) in any criminal case.
Cosby lost the civil suit and paid out nearly 3.5 million to the victim. Then a decade later the new DA decides that the old agreement didn't matter and used the depositions in Cosby's criminal case at the height of #MeToo (in the court documents lol). Problem is that the old agreement can't just be ignored because it's in effect made with the State of Pennsylvania not the DA, because they are just a representative.
Nevertheless I look forward to reading bird and reddit takes about how there's no justice in this country. Even though this is actually a pretty good example of the justice system working.
(Cosby also was denied an easy parole last year because he refused to express remorse over the incident, accept that he's a sexual offender and enter treatment. Stay true to the course king)
Nah the rationale is ironclad, clear 5th amendment due process violation, it's just ridiculous that two separate prosecutors would both 1. Make the original deal and 2. Ignore that deal, putting your entire case in jeopardy as has just happened.
I think the original deal makes sense. It was a way to get the victim some sense of justice when the alternative was none at all. They weren't ever going to get enough evidence to convict.
The second DA is an idiot but they probably knew it made no difference. It was during the height of Me Too and no one was going to defend Cosby (especially on procedural grounds) in the public eye. Hell even today you probably won't hear much about this. The AP story on it just alluded to some mercurial deal with the previous DA. If I was callous I would say they probably just expected the, then 81 year old, blind man to die in prison before the appeals made it to any court that mattered.
The real fuck up is this not being handled by the judge during the trial two years ago
Looking back, I think the worst miscarriage of justice here was the way the media got involved. Remember all the magazine covers? The public media pressure pretty much guaranteed miscarriage of justice and that the DA would push hard for conviction.
Guilt is a separate issue from prejudicing a jury and trying a case outside the courts. He also may be guilty of some of the allegations but not others. There are always bandwagoners with ridiculous stories that latch onto big media cases like this, often with fabricated evidence. The media always want to believe them all and seeit as thrir job to “get” the “bad guy” rather than pursue facts.
I'm pretty baffled it got admitted but kind of unsurprised in retrospect. Another crazy part is that the depositions were supposed to be sealed per the original agreement. This was a pretty specific stipulation which was included for the exact purpose of protecting against the financial blowback it would have on his unique brand if made public.
Maybe a legalcel can opine about that. Because it kind of feels like unsealing the depositions and admitting them destroyed Cosby's brand.
It's not that an agreement was struck, per se. Rather the DAs office unilaterally made a binding and unconditional decision that it was never going to prosecute Cosby in any of the potential looming cases. This was done explicitly to deprive him of 5th Amendment protections in a civil case, since you can't incriminate yourself if there's no possibility of a criminal case. So Cosby was forced to testify without any explicit agreement, but deciding to prosecute him anyway is a retroactive violation of his 5th Amendment rights.
In terms of drama, it's the best of both worlds: everyone knows he did it, but legally he's innocent because the evidence the case relies on is inadmissible in court.
I keep getting auto jannied but if you google her it's the most racially ambiguous woman you'll ever see. From this and other photos I would swear she's a black woman. But here she's - I don't really know tbh.
So Billy was just buck breaking some ambiguous mayoid? Sounds like reparations he was entitled to then, so he shouldn't have been jailed in the first place regardless of any legalcel sperg wordswordswords technicalities wtf 😐🤨
He got his butt penetrated a while back and liked it but didn't want to like it so it caused him to break from reality. Now he produces soft-core black gay humiliation porn and skitzo hot takes for his cult following.
It is amusing and drama-filled so this sub tracks it routinely.
I've been around on the internet a long time and I can absolutely tell this dude is trolling. Trolling white women today by saying Cosby is innocent and it's all white women's fault. Trolling hoteps earlier this month into watching gay porn fanfiction.
He produced an hour and a half long documentary about mayos systemically raping African-American slaves and turning them into trains via societal sissy hypno to rape them more. He is by far the greatest drama generator I have ever laid eyes on. Buck Breaking is an absolute masterpiece and you need to go watch it.
he has 50+ accusers and this situation only involved a small number of them, I think he will at least be reprosecuted if any of them are still within the statute of limitations
The other accusers are mostly he said she said stuff, which is more difficult to prosecute. In this specific case, there was basically a confession available on Cosbys part, however that confession had been immunized from use in criminal trials. For whatever reason they were allowed to ignore the immunization until getting to the Supreme Court of PA. Ignoring the criminal immunity agreement, the evidence was much harder, they basically had a confession. The other 50, it is debatable whether there is a single case that has enough evidence left to be valid after this period of time.
I must also say that ignoring the immunity, and relying on what was basically compelled testimony, was bs and a gross violation of the 5th ammendment. The only reason the confession could be compelled in the first place, was the immunity. To ignore that later on violates 5th amendment, you are relying on compelled testimony. However I do absolutely think Cosby is guilty. It's pretty awkward, the PA Supreme Court is right here, but also I think Cosby is almost definitely a rapist. But it's also not clear that any further case can pass muster. Sad.
This scenario FYI is pretty much the nightmare scenario for these type of immunity agreements, and why they're bs in a lot of cases. Chelsea Manning was similarly compelled to testify after an immunity of this sort, she refused and was imprisoned. But it's clear from cases like this that ignoring defendants concerns about incriminating themselves because of a piece of paper from the prosecutors saying "won't prosecute, I promise <3" is a bs practice in general. If the right prosecutor and judge in the future try to tear up the agreement, they can get pretty fucking far before getting slapped down, and you've spent years in prison.
Hopefully since he’s an admitted rapist. Prosecutor can definitely bring one if they want. It wouldn’t count as double jeopardy in the current situation at least.
It got overturned because he accepted a deal earlier, and then a new prosecutor said "nvm lol". He can be charged with the other women, but this one is done pretty much.
Eagerly anticipating the announcement of the creation of the Cosby-OJ podcast where they spend an hour every week talking about how great double jeopardy laws are.
Why do 🐦 people always get amnesia when they want to make some dumb gotcha? They're acting like stoners don't regularly talk about having sex while high
Interesting. Most people would probably think it was serious beeswax for an elderly Blick man to have his constitutional rights violated, so I'll grab some popcorn and watch this one with interest.
Based on the immunity thing it was the prosecutor that fucked up. Cosby never should've been charged based on that and the judge never should've allowed it. Ridiculous all around.
Seems like the State Supreme court was sending a message to participants of the "Me Too" witch hunt that passed as the prosecution on Mr. Cosbys second trial.
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226 AdvancedCause3 2021-06-30
Puddin pops are back on the menu for the 4th
134 -M-o-X- 2021-06-30
Someone book him a standup appearance ASAP, it would be a drama hydrogen bomb.
106 AdvancedCause3 2021-06-30
Opening act: Louis CK
57 soulwrangler 2021-06-30
With guest MC Chris Delia
23 Supreme-Shitposter 2021-06-30
and Women drink free and wont be carded.
217 CosmoSucks 2021-06-30
I actually think it makes sense
Basically in 2004 when the victim originally went to the police the DA thought they didn't have enough evidence to win in court. An agreement was struck for Cosby to testify in a civil suit where his fifth amendment protections would be waived. In turn the DA agreed not to use the four separate depositions (where he repeatedly incriminates himself) in any criminal case.
Cosby lost the civil suit and paid out nearly 3.5 million to the victim. Then a decade later the new DA decides that the old agreement didn't matter and used the depositions in Cosby's criminal case at the height of #MeToo (in the court documents lol). Problem is that the old agreement can't just be ignored because it's in effect made with the State of Pennsylvania not the DA, because they are just a representative.
Nevertheless I look forward to reading bird and reddit takes about how there's no justice in this country. Even though this is actually a pretty good example of the justice system working.
(Cosby also was denied an easy parole last year because he refused to express remorse over the incident, accept that he's a sexual offender and enter treatment. Stay true to the course king)
134 Corgi-Ambitious 2021-06-30
Nah the rationale is ironclad, clear 5th amendment due process violation, it's just ridiculous that two separate prosecutors would both 1. Make the original deal and 2. Ignore that deal, putting your entire case in jeopardy as has just happened.
99 CosmoSucks 2021-06-30
I think the original deal makes sense. It was a way to get the victim some sense of justice when the alternative was none at all. They weren't ever going to get enough evidence to convict.
The second DA is an idiot but they probably knew it made no difference. It was during the height of Me Too and no one was going to defend Cosby (especially on procedural grounds) in the public eye. Hell even today you probably won't hear much about this. The AP story on it just alluded to some mercurial deal with the previous DA. If I was callous I would say they probably just expected the, then 81 year old, blind man to die in prison before the appeals made it to any court that mattered.
The real fuck up is this not being handled by the judge during the trial two years ago
35 ItsMeTK 2021-06-30
Looking back, I think the worst miscarriage of justice here was the way the media got involved. Remember all the magazine covers? The public media pressure pretty much guaranteed miscarriage of justice and that the DA would push hard for conviction.
6 TehAlpacalypse 2021-06-30
I mean he’s guilty lol
13 ItsMeTK 2021-06-30
Guilt is a separate issue from prejudicing a jury and trying a case outside the courts. He also may be guilty of some of the allegations but not others. There are always bandwagoners with ridiculous stories that latch onto big media cases like this, often with fabricated evidence. The media always want to believe them all and seeit as thrir job to “get” the “bad guy” rather than pursue facts.
21 EightLegsTypedThis 2021-06-30
Pretty sure I'd read that the judge had previously run for DA on the position of prosecuting Cosby and lost. I wonder why it wasn't handled 🤔
49 CaliggyJack 2021-06-30
It's like they thought Cosby's defense lawyers were stupid and wouldn't figure that out.
13 RedditIsAJoke69 2021-06-30
cops and lawyers always think that they are too smart and that they can get away with anything
2 Substantial-Offer-42 2021-06-30
When legal systems go woke
61 ffbtaw2 2021-06-30
Caring about due process is white supremacy.
38 CosmoSucks 2021-06-30
I know you're joking but whenever journos or whoever do the x is white supremacy bit they make ethno nationalism sound all the more lovely.
20 ItsMeTK 2021-06-30
And yet just like quaaludes, it got a black man off. (I’m sorry; that was in bad taste. I couldn’t resist.)
27 Jamity4Life 2021-06-30
WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE
17 ffbtaw2 2021-06-30
White supremacy getting a black man off? Take your buck breaking fantasies elsewhere.
1 ohheckyeah 2021-06-30
It is an affront to #metoo and everyone involved should be #cancelled with extreme prejudice
25 -M-o-X- 2021-06-30
Yeah I never dove too deep into that end but that does seem open and shut like testimony that shouldn't have been admitted.
28 CosmoSucks 2021-06-30
I'm pretty baffled it got admitted but kind of unsurprised in retrospect. Another crazy part is that the depositions were supposed to be sealed per the original agreement. This was a pretty specific stipulation which was included for the exact purpose of protecting against the financial blowback it would have on his unique brand if made public.
Maybe a legalcel can opine about that. Because it kind of feels like unsealing the depositions and admitting them destroyed Cosby's brand.
22 911roofer 2021-06-30
Pennsylvania is going to get hung from a hook and drained of money.
13 gurthanix 2021-06-30
It's not that an agreement was struck, per se. Rather the DAs office unilaterally made a binding and unconditional decision that it was never going to prosecute Cosby in any of the potential looming cases. This was done explicitly to deprive him of 5th Amendment protections in a civil case, since you can't incriminate yourself if there's no possibility of a criminal case. So Cosby was forced to testify without any explicit agreement, but deciding to prosecute him anyway is a retroactive violation of his 5th Amendment rights.
In terms of drama, it's the best of both worlds: everyone knows he did it, but legally he's innocent because the evidence the case relies on is inadmissible in court.
2 istira_balegina 2021-06-30
Will be even better when he takes PA to the bank for violating his rights.
1 jennifernav19 2021-06-30
Justice is when a rapist gets sent free
142 ANTI_LUCIFERIAN 2021-06-30
https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1410286929044594695
tariq already going off
96 -M-o-X- 2021-06-30
Weren’t most of his accusers POC
edit: bout a quarter from a photo array
47 ANTI_LUCIFERIAN 2021-06-30
tbh i have no idea, i think the woman who was at the center of the trial was not though, Andrea Constand or whatever
45 CosmoSucks 2021-06-30
I keep getting auto jannied but if you google her it's the most racially ambiguous woman you'll ever see. From this and other photos I would swear she's a black woman. But here she's - I don't really know tbh.
63 wingrath 2021-06-30
Idk what race she is but there’s no way she’s not a train
20 ATissu 2021-06-30
So Billy was just buck breaking some ambiguous mayoid? Sounds like reparations he was entitled to then, so he shouldn't have been jailed in the first place regardless of any legalcel sperg wordswordswords technicalities wtf 😐🤨
55 UnexpectedLizard 2021-06-30
There is a 200% chance that woman is a lesbian.
49 CosmoSucks 2021-06-30
33 UnexpectedLizard 2021-06-30
You expect I actually read that shit?
30 ImHereForTheBussy 2021-06-30
She looks like a racially ambiguous female version of Brian May in the second pic
5 ArachnoLibrarian 2021-06-30
She looks like Sigurney Weaver if she had sex with herself for ten generations trying to breed the most Sigurney Weaver woman ever.
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43 BMBA24 2021-06-30
They were yakubians with blackface
21 BallisticChalice 2021-06-30
Tariq obviously knows that.
4 RedditIsAJoke69 2021-06-30
Tariq was ready for that one: "When does white society care what Black women say?"
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1 ComedicSans 2021-06-30
Cosby also, you know, admitted it...
36 Ohsbar 2021-06-30
Is that man ever wrong?
21 911roofer 2021-06-30
Can't break this buck.
15 languidhorse 2021-06-30
Fucking lol https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/express_yourself/a-tribute-to-bill-cosby-t13757.html
10 Mission-Zebra 2021-06-30
Can someone explain why this sub cares so much about this F-word?
97 kier00 2021-06-30
He got his butt penetrated a while back and liked it but didn't want to like it so it caused him to break from reality. Now he produces soft-core black gay humiliation porn and skitzo hot takes for his cult following.
It is amusing and drama-filled so this sub tracks it routinely.
58 BallisticChalice 2021-06-30
Because he is by far the best troll on twitter and a lot of people don't understand that he's a troll because of race politics in the US right now.
34 Mission-Zebra 2021-06-30
I can no longer discern trolls from real people on twitter.
How are you so sure he's trolling? seems legit to me.
All i see on his account is "Negro good white devil bad"
52 _____kek_____ 2021-06-30
Das rite white boy
39 BallisticChalice 2021-06-30
I've been around on the internet a long time and I can absolutely tell this dude is trolling. Trolling white women today by saying Cosby is innocent and it's all white women's fault. Trolling hoteps earlier this month into watching gay porn fanfiction.
26 EightLegsTypedThis 2021-06-30
He produced an hour and a half long documentary about mayos systemically raping African-American slaves and turning them into trains via societal sissy hypno to rape them more. He is by far the greatest drama generator I have ever laid eyes on. Buck Breaking is an absolute masterpiece and you need to go watch it.
9 qwertyashes 2021-06-30
DJT before his brain turned to mush in the last few months was better.
9 ATissu 2021-06-30
Yes and? That's like been scientifically fact checked
4 TedhaHaiParMeraHai 2021-06-30
No lies detected
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41 DaveBustaine 2021-06-30
He's easily the greatest Twitter account since DDR was booted.
10 MoneyIsHerMotive 2021-06-30
arrdrama is extremely committed to the mayocide bit and tariq is the same
3 Supreme-Shitposter 2021-06-30
He's fucking crazy. Just point and laugh.
3 TedhaHaiParMeraHai 2021-06-30
He generates a lot of drama. The fuck do you mean that we shouldn't care about him?
1 WilliamPierceTwerks 2021-06-30
That dude is such a scamming piece of shit..
I legit laugh when ppl don’t see how he moves
69 Sc00t_Sc00t 2021-06-30
I hope he joins Twitter like the One True Prophet Orenthal James Simpson
7 EpsteinChildSuprstar 2021-06-30
I unironically read his tweets after NFL games for insight.
53 elephantofdoom 2021-06-30
Lol. Now what, a new trial?
114 PodricksPhallus 2021-06-30
He can’t be retried for it. So unless he goes puttin’ puddin’ pops where he ain’t supposed to again, he’s out for good
44 ANTI_LUCIFERIAN 2021-06-30
he has 50+ accusers and this situation only involved a small number of them, I think he will at least be reprosecuted if any of them are still within the statute of limitations
59 realWaterMark 2021-06-30
The other accusers are mostly he said she said stuff, which is more difficult to prosecute. In this specific case, there was basically a confession available on Cosbys part, however that confession had been immunized from use in criminal trials. For whatever reason they were allowed to ignore the immunization until getting to the Supreme Court of PA. Ignoring the criminal immunity agreement, the evidence was much harder, they basically had a confession. The other 50, it is debatable whether there is a single case that has enough evidence left to be valid after this period of time.
26 realWaterMark 2021-06-30
I must also say that ignoring the immunity, and relying on what was basically compelled testimony, was bs and a gross violation of the 5th ammendment. The only reason the confession could be compelled in the first place, was the immunity. To ignore that later on violates 5th amendment, you are relying on compelled testimony. However I do absolutely think Cosby is guilty. It's pretty awkward, the PA Supreme Court is right here, but also I think Cosby is almost definitely a rapist. But it's also not clear that any further case can pass muster. Sad.
This scenario FYI is pretty much the nightmare scenario for these type of immunity agreements, and why they're bs in a lot of cases. Chelsea Manning was similarly compelled to testify after an immunity of this sort, she refused and was imprisoned. But it's clear from cases like this that ignoring defendants concerns about incriminating themselves because of a piece of paper from the prosecutors saying "won't prosecute, I promise <3" is a bs practice in general. If the right prosecutor and judge in the future try to tear up the agreement, they can get pretty fucking far before getting slapped down, and you've spent years in prison.
7 quitsocmedia 2021-06-30
None of the other documented ones are so far. This one only barely made it to trial literally days before the statute ran out.
5 theunits 2021-06-30
This case was filed 9 days before the SoL so doubtful
22 GabrielMartinellli 2021-06-30
Yeah, he’s a free man lmao
-5 Neither-Answer-7431 2021-06-30
It’s not funny when a rapist buys his way out of incarceration.
At least now he’s old and blind, and no woman will ever be alone with him except his disgusting wife or the traitor to truth Phylicia Rashad.
Keshia! Don’t be stupid and hang out alone with tv daddy- and don’t accept food or drink.
34 GabrielMartinellli 2021-06-30
I beg to differ, it’s positively hilarious 😭
3 Neither-Answer-7431 2021-06-30
Not edgy, just morally retarded.
9 Pokanot 2021-06-30
Why are people downvoting the lolcow 😡
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2 BussyShogun 2021-06-30
Depending on the evidence available, he could be retried for it. Double jeopardy doesn't apply to mistrials or convictions overturned on appeal.
11 McFluff_TheCrimeCat 2021-06-30
Hopefully since he’s an admitted rapist. Prosecutor can definitely bring one if they want. It wouldn’t count as double jeopardy in the current situation at least.
44 grippingtale 2021-06-30
It got overturned because he accepted a deal earlier, and then a new prosecutor said "nvm lol". He can be charged with the other women, but this one is done pretty much.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/30/court-overturns-bill-cosbys-sex-assault-conviction-bars-further-prosecution.html
8 ooklynbrooklyn 2021-06-30
lol you r*pecuck
41 grippingtale 2021-06-30
Shameful this deep state character assassination got this far.
41 CopeSeetheDial8 2021-06-30
YEEZY WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG
31 noPENGSinALASKA 2021-06-30
2016 started with Kanye tweeting he’s innocent. Maybe we’ve closed the loop in the alternate universe now and things will get normal.
40 The_Butch_Man 2021-06-30
Eagerly anticipating the announcement of the creation of the Cosby-OJ podcast where they spend an hour every week talking about how great double jeopardy laws are.
36 MagicCrunch 2021-06-30
COSBY-COLADAS FOR EVERYBODY
26 xxxxxxxxxx 2021-06-30
No No No, we said free BRITNEY!
25 rrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeee 2021-06-30
holy shit, this is incredible for drama
19 firenati0n 2021-06-30
CORRECT THE RECORD!!!
18 Copeshit 2021-06-30
Dramacoin
Wins
Again
👏😎
15 shitty_bison 2021-06-30
Why do 🐦 people always get amnesia when they want to make some dumb gotcha? They're acting like stoners don't regularly talk about having sex while high
2 SnappyIsMyWaifu 2021-06-30
But why would anyone combine sex with drugs?
It's simply incomprehensible.
13 PvtMcNuggets 2021-06-30
BILL COSBY INNOCENT !!!!!!!!!!
7 ArvinRul 2021-06-30
Drama's very own lilBussy predicted this
6 ironicshitpostr 2021-06-30
Triumphant return of House of Cosbys when/
6 YourGreatDarshFace 2021-06-30
Interesting. Most people would probably think it was serious beeswax for an elderly Blick man to have his constitutional rights violated, so I'll grab some popcorn and watch this one with interest.
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5 boundarychimps 2021-06-30
No, that not what this is.
This isn't finding that he's innocent, or even that the trial court didn't meet "reasonable doubt" rules.
This is only finding that the DA violated his due process rights (specifically, his right against self-incrimination).
They decided that it doesn't matter that he's guilty; the old DA made a deal not to prosecute and the new DA is not allowed to alter that deal.
18 MayanAnt 2021-06-30
He was innocent until the judge ruled he was not, since the ruling is void he's innocent again.
3 zbeezle 2021-06-30
Legally, yes, but the prosecution was based around his personal admission of guilt in a civil case, so, like, we all know he did it.
5 32624647 2021-06-30
"I’m so shocked. This could potentially be a big setback on sexual assault cases. Especially in PA"
"Vigilante justice might concern anyone who evades consequences like this..."
"about damn time"
"You mad bro?"
5 Iflookinglikingmove 2021-06-30
Based on the immunity thing it was the prosecutor that fucked up. Cosby never should've been charged based on that and the judge never should've allowed it. Ridiculous all around.
5 xXGoobyXx 2021-06-30
Freed from the shackles of white supremacy
5 x11001100x 2021-06-30
F R E E
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WE ARE FREE
1 Spamaster 2021-06-30
Seems like the State Supreme court was sending a message to participants of the "Me Too" witch hunt that passed as the prosecution on Mr. Cosbys second trial.
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