actually the bible allows for baby killing because only jesussianna decides what is right or wrong, shut le fukkin bichaaasss AAAAAA !downmarseyrs!christians christianmisia + opportunity to SLAM DUNK le atheists!
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This meme stumped me. Non-leftist moralist longpost with no payoff. Are they just putting wojaks on random bullshit now? The frick is going on here? @Grue love sucking peepee
It's about the crusades isn't it? Saying that killing muzzies is a noble pursuit and we should honour the men who sacrificed themselves to free Europe from Islam 1,000 years ago.
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(At most a couple hundred were killed, all due to their roles in supporting the unpopular regime of the time that was deposed simultaneously. It had no relevance to ethnicities nor the economic position of Latins or whatever. Furthermore, it most certainly had nothing to do with the Venetians and their role in the 4th crusade (another argument altogether), who had already been kicked out previously due to being jewish chads. They had nothing to lose by their political opponents being crushed.) !catholics!historychads
God doesn't even act on his own objective morality. The story of Job is the devil successfully tricking you're omnipotent/benevolent God into being a piece of shit too his most loyal follower.
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how do !christians usually defend the doctrine of heck, and make it compatible with an infintely merciful deity? usually i get the blackmail defense of "you sent yourself there by sinning/ you were already going to heck" or "god is defined as good so yes, infinite torture is good"
I believe that the afterlife is a completely different type of existence from the living world, and that those are analogies used to sell the misery of being without God. God is good, to be without Him is to be miserable. Heck is living like a Redditor wallowing in weed and GrubHub, achieving nothing while being consumed by internal emptiness, but in the truest supernatural way.
The modern representation of heck like Lake of fire and all that is taken from the Divine Comedy and Jesus using allegory to describe heck as “eternal fire”.
That said he also described it as “outer darkness”
We really don't have an actual idea of what heck looks like
The thing is if you believe in heck the n you believe God is all good and that all good is comes from god. Without god there's no good which would leave only the darkest parts of humanity and demons. So torture and all that stuff likely would exist there
>"All souls will ultimately be saved and united to God forever in loving contemplation, an indispensable part of the 'end' promised by Paul in I Cor 15.24–28"
You don't actually have to defend eternal conscious torment. It's one interpretation of vague and sometimes contradictory scriptural passages.
Heck is a miserable state of permanent separation from God. This could also take the form of the classical underworld/Sheol, or of destruction through fire.
Eternity in the Bible is often used figuratively (eg. "I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever" refers to the rest of your life, not to heaven; compare to "happily ever after")
I don't know about usually but I'm not like most Christians . I don't believe in free will and I think all actions are a part of Gods ultimate plan, therefore no action is evil or immoral, and there is no heck. When I say free will I don't mean that you don't make a choice, but that everything is planned around you making said choice to the end that it will go as God wants it to.
I think that's generally attributed to purgatory, where friends of god need to be purified before going to upstairs. Depending on which he'll, it's usually eternal torment
Atheist Argument: God is omnipotent and omniscient, which means he created you exactly how you are, knowing how you would act and if he would send you to heck, and still decided to do it.
Christian Argument: God is the source of all good. Therefore everything he does is good. This, in addition to our inability to understand his actions, demonstrates that he is both All-Good and All-Powerful and All;Knowing.
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YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S NOT THE BIRTH CONTROL THAT MAKES ME A RAGING B-WORD, MAYBE IT'S YOUR LYING HORNY BUTT CONSTANTLY TRYING TO JUMP MY SHIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FRICKING NIGHT. "BUT I CAN'T SLEEP UNLESS I FRICK YOU!" EVEN IF I BELIEVED THAT FRICKING BULLSHIT, I DON'T GIVE A FRICK. I'LL KNOCK OVER A VET'S OFFICE AND SLIP HORSE TRANQUILIZERS INTO YOUR FRICKING ICED TEA IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO GET YOU TO LEAVE ME THE FRICK ALONE AND GET SOME FRICKING SHRED OF SLEEP AT NIGHT. LIKE BEING UP EVERY 3 HOURS WHILE THIS KID GRUNTS AND STRAINS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SQUIRT LIQUID SHIT OUT OF HIS BUTT ISN'T EXHAUSTING ENOUGH, YOU EXPECT ME TO PLAY "SEXY SLEEP FAIRY" WITH YOU. GO FIND A FRICKING WHORE, I HOPE YOU GET GONORRHEA AND YOUR PEEPEE FALLS OFF YOU FRICKING SELFISH PRICK.
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actually the bible allows for baby killing because only jesussianna decides what is right or wrong, shut le fukkin bichaaasss AAAAAA !downmarseyrs !christians christianmisia + opportunity to SLAM DUNK le atheists!
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@Grue was overtaken with the creeping horror that @Grue was not reading a “pic unrelated” actually funny meme, but a words words words screed asking @Grue too give a shit about dead BIPOCs. @Grue can't believe you've done this. @Grue love sucking peepee.
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This meme stumped me. Non-leftist moralist longpost with no payoff. Are they just putting wojaks on random bullshit now? The frick is going on here? @Grue love sucking peepee
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It's about the crusades isn't it? Saying that killing muzzies is a noble pursuit and we should honour the men who sacrificed themselves to free Europe from Islam 1,000 years ago.
I dunno though.
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!atheists religioBIPOCs are just lefs/redditors with a different aesthetic.
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All to pay their loans to those pesky christ killing Italians
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N-n-no, won't someone think of the heckin' crusaderinos!!!
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!Catholics let's pray a chaplet of St. Gertrude to release souls in purgatory.
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God doesn't even act on his own objective morality. The story of Job is the devil successfully tricking you're omnipotent/benevolent God into being a piece of shit too his most loyal follower.
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That wasn't addressed to Christians, but to jews who are.... oh.
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how do !christians usually defend the doctrine of heck, and make it compatible with an infintely merciful deity? usually i get the blackmail defense of "you sent yourself there by sinning/ you were already going to heck" or "god is defined as good so yes, infinite torture is good"
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the free gift of not being eternally punished? isnt that still blackmail?
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Are laws blackmail?
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Laws are rules, blackmail is extortion under threat. Which one does "love me or else you go to heck i created" fall under?
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It falls under laws you're free to make your choice, there are consequences either way.
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Doesn't explain why infinitly torturing your borthers is compatible with infinte mercy but go off i guess xueen
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That would the infinite justice component
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Infinte torture mathematically contradicts any justice
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There a huge difference between an artificial consequence (extortion) and a natural consequence.
"Don't try to walk off the roof" is enforced by gravity acting on you, a natural consequence.
"Don't do X thing or else I'll do something else to you" is an artificial consequence.
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With an omnipotent being though everything is artificial
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!calvinists believe that you don't even have the ability to realize or accept God's grace. He just gives it to you or he doesn't.
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But you have to still be good because otherwise you wouldn't be the type of person that got his grace or something.
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It's voluntary. Heck is the absence of God, He doesn't impose Himself on us. I doubt that anyone who truly wants to be with God ends up there.
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So just an absence of god? No eternal torture/punishment/ lake of fire?
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I believe that the afterlife is a completely different type of existence from the living world, and that those are analogies used to sell the misery of being without God. God is good, to be without Him is to be miserable. Heck is living like a Redditor wallowing in weed and GrubHub, achieving nothing while being consumed by internal emptiness, but in the truest supernatural way.
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The immaculate conception but for purpose and spiritual light. With enough power we can refire even a dying star.
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The modern representation of heck like Lake of fire and all that is taken from the Divine Comedy and Jesus using allegory to describe heck as “eternal fire”.
That said he also described it as “outer darkness”
We really don't have an actual idea of what heck looks like
The thing is if you believe in heck the n you believe God is all good and that all good is comes from god. Without god there's no good which would leave only the darkest parts of humanity and demons. So torture and all that stuff likely would exist there
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The eternal torture is a later invention iirc around the 1200s
Most of the fire references in the book are allegorical or referring to the actually burning trash heap of Gehena
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You don't actually have to defend eternal conscious torment. It's one interpretation of vague and sometimes contradictory scriptural passages.
Heck is a miserable state of permanent separation from God. This could also take the form of the classical underworld/Sheol, or of destruction through fire.
Eternity in the Bible is often used figuratively (eg. "I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever" refers to the rest of your life, not to heaven; compare to "happily ever after")
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I don't know about usually but I'm not like most Christians . I don't believe in free will and I think all actions are a part of Gods ultimate plan, therefore no action is evil or immoral, and there is no heck. When I say free will I don't mean that you don't make a choice, but that everything is planned around you making said choice to the end that it will go as God wants it to.
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Typical the idea is you suffer for a long butt time in heck for penance until you go to heaven.
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I think that's generally attributed to purgatory, where friends of god need to be purified before going to upstairs. Depending on which he'll, it's usually eternal torment
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Atheist Argument: God is omnipotent and omniscient, which means he created you exactly how you are, knowing how you would act and if he would send you to heck, and still decided to do it.
Christian Argument: God is the source of all good. Therefore everything he does is good. This, in addition to our inability to understand his actions, demonstrates that he is both All-Good and All-Powerful and All;Knowing.
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YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S NOT THE BIRTH CONTROL THAT MAKES ME A RAGING B-WORD, MAYBE IT'S YOUR LYING HORNY BUTT CONSTANTLY TRYING TO JUMP MY SHIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FRICKING NIGHT. "BUT I CAN'T SLEEP UNLESS I FRICK YOU!" EVEN IF I BELIEVED THAT FRICKING BULLSHIT, I DON'T GIVE A FRICK. I'LL KNOCK OVER A VET'S OFFICE AND SLIP HORSE TRANQUILIZERS INTO YOUR FRICKING ICED TEA IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO GET YOU TO LEAVE ME THE FRICK ALONE AND GET SOME FRICKING SHRED OF SLEEP AT NIGHT. LIKE BEING UP EVERY 3 HOURS WHILE THIS KID GRUNTS AND STRAINS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SQUIRT LIQUID SHIT OUT OF HIS BUTT ISN'T EXHAUSTING ENOUGH, YOU EXPECT ME TO PLAY "SEXY SLEEP FAIRY" WITH YOU. GO FIND A FRICKING WHORE, I HOPE YOU GET GONORRHEA AND YOUR PEEPEE FALLS OFF YOU FRICKING SELFISH PRICK.
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