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I read on the news that 2022 was the first year ever in which most recently married Brazilian foids didn't take their husbands's surnames. They simply don't want to bother with the paperwork anymore, meanwhile my grandma went through all the bureaucratic process to take off my granpa's surname and going back to her maiden surname after their divorce.

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Idk about Brazil :marseysopa: but that's one of those things weak man/strong woman :marseyblobbygirl: pairing thing in the fricking USA. (I honestly think :marseymischevious: it's some weird :marseyshiftyeyes: domination thing idk)

Sometimes hyphenating both last names together :marseyfoxxy: as one last name happens but it's pretty :marseyroan: rare.

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Hyphenating is the Brazilian costume.

!macacos typically have 2 surnames, maternal then paternal (though this is not mandatory, my mom and my aunt only had my grandfather's surname until they got married). Once a foid gets married she'll typically add her husband surname to the end, people are called by their last surname (example, Marcela Tedeschi Araújo Temer, known simply as Marcela Temer or Michelle de Paula Firmo Bolsonaro, known simply as Michelle Bolsonaro), until the 1970s this was mandatory. My grandma said she removed her maiden surname and used solely my granpa's surname while she was married to him, I don't know how that works legally but that's them following kraut naming costumes which are the same as in the US (only one surname and the foid takes her hubby's name after marriage).

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Frick me after a fricking couple :marsey2commies: of generations that'll get really :marseythinkorino2: darn long

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It doesn't, you pass solely your father's name and your foid passes solely her father's name.

Example:

João Rizetti Albuquerque marries Maria Fernandes Sampaio. She then becomes Maria Fernandes Sampaio Albuquerque.

Their son is named Pedro Sampaio Albuquerque (the surnames of both his grandfathers).

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The fricking surname of the fricking woman's father :marseyjohnson: becomes a fricking middle :marseyllama2: name then, b-word?

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>Name + maternal grandfather's + dad's surname

>Name +2nd name + dad's surname

are probably the two most common :marseybrasileiro: naming conventions

it's also common to see names as

>Name + 2nd name + maternal grandfather's + father's surname

especially on old folx :boomer: where the 2nd name is homage to some kind of saint or biblical figure

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My fiancé family :marseylois: doesn't seem to follow :marseycursor: that for whatever :marseyjerkofffrown: reason but idk if that was fricking an immigration :marseyabbott: thing or just how their family :marseyeeriedeathpose: does it.

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Does she have more names or less?

I think it depends a bit on the local settlers, the Portuguese were notorious for giving their kids a billion names

The first :marseymacacosalute: emperor's name was

>Pedro de Alcântara Francisco António João Carlos Xavier de Paula Miguel Rafael Joaquim José Gonzaga Pascoal Cipriano Serafim

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She only has one surname? Because we mentioned that's a thing here too, it's not mandatory to have 2 surnames

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Name + 2nd name + maternal grandfather's + father's surname

Eu com os meus dois nomes e dois sobrenomes. O meu pai é a mesma coisa, só a familia da minha mãe tinha costume de um só sobrenome mas eu percebo que isso é bem comum entre descendentes de alemães ou italianos.

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Is not a middle name, it's a surname and it has legal validity.

A middle name would be Pedro Miguel Sampaio Albuquerque, on this case Miguel is the "middle-name", though we call it "segundo nome" or "second name", I have a friend with a third name, there are plenty like that too. The mom's full name could be Maria Luisa Fernandes Sampaio Albuquerque, that's the name on her ID card, passport and other legal documents. Again, she would go socially as Maria Albuquerque.

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