It's a sad morning. I can't think of anything but the numerous rejections I've faced throughout my life. Women don't find me attractive, they've told me this in uncertain terms, and I don't know why it's taken me almost 30 years to finally get the message. In this post I'll share all the rejection I remember.

2006

My first rejection was a relatively mild one. It occurred when I was in 5th grade and I thought this girl in my class was cute. She was a Black girl and she had dated a friend of mine. I bought her chocolate and she rejected it completely and would not take it from me. After that it was awkward for the rest of year because we were in the same class and she knew I had a crush on her.

2007

In the 6th grade I had a crush on another Black girl in my class. I sat next to her, and she was a somewhat bigger girl. During camp, I admitted to my friends that I had feelings for her and they told her. She made it clear that the feelings weren't reciprocal. More awkwardness ensued as I had to sit next to her for the rest of the year.

2008

In the 7th grade the girls in my class made a "Hot or Not" list. Predictably, I was on the "Not" side. The list was passed around in class so my shame could be publicized. Right here, at age 13, when an entire room of girls could unanimously agree that I'm ugly, this should have been the moment when I accept that no women would ever find me attractive. Unfortunately, I had far too much hope.

2010

In the ninth grade, I dealt with my first major rejection. I had a crush on a girl in my class. She was Indian, and she was a good friend of mine. We'd hang around together a lot and she was nice to me. I wanted to do something nice for her when I asked her out so I learned HTML and I made a website dedicated to her. I brought my PSP to school and I showed her the website which ended with me asking her out. She rejected me and it was so painful it plunged me into depression. I had never felt heartbreak like that ever.

This wouldn't be the only rejection I suffered in 2010. I was part of a cohort that had an academic scholarship, and we were taken on a camp together with students from other schools who were part of the same scholarship. At night, the girls came to our dorm and fetched some of us because they wanted to play spin the bottle. What ensued is an evening of crippling shame. Every time the bottle landed on me, the girls would look upon me with abject disgust when they realised they had to kiss me. It became a running joke that I was the ugly, unwanted creature there giving women the ick. It was made abundantly clear to me that in no way did any of the women present find me remotely attractive and in fact they were positively repulsed by me. I will never forget this night. Brutal humiliation in front of my peers.

2011

I finally got a gf! She was a short, Black girl that seemed affectionately enough. However, she was cheating on me, she ignored me, and she constantly asked me for money. I knew she was cheating on me but I turned a blind eye because I finally had a gf, but it hurt me immensely and I couldn't take it anymore. I broke up with her in 2013.

2013

There was a girl, Black, who approached me and wanted me to help her with Physics since I was good at it and she wasn't. She started coming to my Physics afterschool tutorials with me, and because she was a poorcel, I paid for her lessons. I eventually developed feelings for her and I wrote her a love letter. She turned me down. It was emotionally brutal.

2014

In university, the girls in the cafeteria would make fun of me and call me a 14-year-old because I was short. I eventually stopped going and just ate food in my room in my third year until I moved out into my own place. Even the warden of my residence called me the "short one".

2016

This is the year I tried online dating. Got no matches on any of the apps. I chatted to one girl on Fetlife but when she saw my picture she started bullying me. This was also the year I gave up and started identifying as an asexual. I wove my past into a story of "compulsory heterosexuality" forged from ideas by feminist scholars such as Adrianne Rich. "I never wanted to date girls, I had simply been socialized that way!" The cope helped to alleviate the pain but as you all know, the delusion didn't last forever and I eventually gave up the asexual label and accepted that I was an incel, but that would take years.

One good thing came out of this, which is that I joined AVEN (Asexuality Visibility and Education Network) and met Sarah who would become a close friend of mine.

2023

After years of identifying as asexual, I got back into the game. I had a collossal crush on Sarah, and I couldn't hold it in anymore. I told her about it and I got brutally rejected. I wrote about it in this post.

https://rdrama.net/post/224434/i-told-my-friend-i-have

This rejection affected me immensely, and I fell into dangerous self-harm. I even ended up spending time in the psych ward in part because of the heartbreak. I couldn't handle it.

Conclusion

These are just some of the more notable rejections I have suffered. I've felt hate from teachers, police, and random looks of disgust in public. I've had babies in public comment on how dark I am, and people are shocked I'm old enough to drive. I'm stuck in forever childhood. I am a beast, a cretin, I am Frankenstein's monster. I was born at the bottom of the totem pole in terms of race, and I have been cursed to look up at everybody for my whole life. Do you know how brutal it is to have everybody looking down on you? My life as a five foot one blackcel has been a string of bad memories and rejections, and the truth is that it's fricking awful. Moving through society is hard as a five foot one black male. The strength it takes to go outside... sometimes I don't have it.

When normies are rejected, it's usually for something that they can improve upon. "I don't like shy guys", "we're not into the same things", "I like buff guys". When incels are rejected, they are usually experiencing genuine forms of prejudice and discrimination. We are shunned because of things we cannot change - we're short, or ugly, or dark-skinned, or the wrong race.

If you failed because of those factors in any other endeavor in life, and you expressed pain and trauma, you would be completely heard and sympathized with. e.g. if you lose a job because you're too shy, well that's a geniune reason to not hire someone. If you lose a job because you're ugly, EVERYONE would understand why you're hurt and traumatized by that. Yet, for some reason, people pretend to be oblivious to the source of our pain when we explain that we're being rejected and discriminated against because of ugliness, height, and other factors we cannot change.

If you were black and you couldn't get a job no matter how much you studied, the horror of your life would be obvious to all. If you're short, and you can't get a gf no matter what you achieve in your life, there is seemingly no reason for you to be upset, according to normies.

This is the reason why I will NEVER act on my feelings for women EVER AGAIN. If you've ever been redpilled you must have heard some variation of this advice: "Rejection is nothing bro! I challenge you to get rejected by 100 girls! The more rejection you experience the easier it gets!" It's not true. Rejections beat you down more. They crush what little self-esteem you have left. Nothing good comes from rejection. It is good to avoid rejection, it is an act of self preservation.

I'd like ONE (1) single biological woman here admit that they would date a 5'1 male. Be HONEST. It's OVER and we all know it. If you're about to turn 30 and you've experienced nothing but rejection your whole life, it is highly unlikely that fate will suddenly change on my 30th birthday and I'll suddenly become a Chad. The biggest predictor of the future is past patterns, and women have made it clear that they don't want me. I accept that, I hope to accept it as maturely as possible. I don't hate women, I don't think they're bad, and I don't blame them for not being attracted to me. However, I can't deny that it hurts like heck.

It is about time we gathered to decide what requirements and restrictions we should put on !incels membership (given the new influx of aspiring members)

Here are my thoughts:

• Men only.

• Virgin only, KHHV is too strict imo (I am KV btw, so full transparency).

• No ping group farmers

• Those in the !truecels ping group should be rejected

• No gays allowed

• No anti-incels

thoughts?

!incels

there's a sort of karmic justice to this.

/r/shortguys comments on the situation

https://old.reddit.com/r/shortguys/comments/1bqnuvb/imagine_getting_blackpilled_in_kindergarten/

just trying out bumble in sf 😳 pic.twitter.com/19r8VYTijc

— Jane Manchun Wong (@wongmjane) April 7, 2024

700+ likes for the middest azn foid you have ever seen:

I am once again asking white moids to stop inflating the self worth of mid azn foids with your yellow fever because what the frick is this ?

srs doe calling yourself an incel in highschool is wild

!zoomers why are you like this?

Why don't you step up and be a real man for her?

!fellas, you ever been to an adult store? Ever bought lube? Toys?

No that shit is disgusting. Only the top 5% of coomers do that.

But your average modern foid has most definitely been to an adult store or ordered some paraphernalia in the mail

They buy 5000 horsepower Hitachi giga powered vibration wands that will literally short out a socket

They buy gigantic dildos and various types of lube

The average moid maybe has some lotion on the bedside at most

!women get your shit together

!incels beware the s*x shop temptress

morning coffee makes me extra misogynistic

Men are completely ran through after a single heartbreak

!incels

It never began and that's the long and short of it.

I am 5 foot 1 ugly poorcel with 0 social skills, completely introverted, and there's no amount of going to clubs, joining societies, or trying online dating that's going to change that. It's over. I will die with an unmet need and I have to come to terms with that. I got rejected by my fricking best friend, the one person who saw the best in me. If she finds me undateable then it's pretty much universal. I don't want to deal with rejection over and over again when I know what the outcome is going to be every time.

Frick, it's so sad. I didn't want things to go this way. I wanted the normie life with the wife and children but its NEVER going to happen. This is so depressing but I have to find the will to live regardless. Any others who have come to the realisation that nothing they try will work?

/r/seduction is a new favorite sub. Redditors giving each other advice on seducing women

I got over that breakup pretty easily actually, im flirting with a new girl now and falling in love. Will she like me back?

>inb4 fakecel

Yes I know im a fakecel but you are all fakecels too

!incels

NYT article about hypergamy. They're conclusion? Women caused Donald Trump to happen by doing too well after getting rights and still demanding to marry up.

Some of my favorite bits of this unintentionally based take 🧵 pic.twitter.com/H6S6agza1K

— bone (@boneGPT) November 30, 2024

!chuds !incels turns out putting moids (non brown or red) at a massive disadvantage and transforming everything from education to work in the eternal foids favor caused men to fail out of the system left and right!

And yet women still refuse to date down

In order to succeed as a Zoomer man you have to be born at least a 6/10 and then against all odds succeed in current society enough to out earn most foids. This doesn't apply to 8/10 =< men, they get to be the modern equivalent of a model wife. And even if you "make it" with a 4/10 foid, you better hope she doesn't bare a son if she wants kids at all and there is a 60% chance she will just end up divorce raping you anyway.

Oh well, shut up and pay the tax goy.

A Korean man with the nickname "코하루교배프래스! (KoharuMatingPress!)" has written a "Declaration of War Against Korean Women" 💀
He is the leader of the 20,000+ member Antifeminist Discord Channel Coalition.

Surprisingly, he seems to be serious.

He announced that he will… pic.twitter.com/HCWYiF7fwT

— (cat) 페미니즘=여성인권운동 (@dvu84djp) October 21, 2024

the fate of many a self improvecel

Nah but fr acking it up at 22 is just a waste. You think Redditors will show any genuine empathy to sub 5 men? Nah.

This brainwashing we have to feel we are incomplete without a partner puts so much pressure on people. It's ridiculous!

He's lucky she didn't sneak a shot of his face

Grillcast was telling the truth when he said I was tall, jacked, and good-looking. However, I'm a peepeelet, 2.25" hard. I was a late bloomer because I literally skipped two grades and I've got a bit of the 'tism which is why I couldn't get any dates in high school but I did have a girlfriend for a bit in college. I was really anxious about doing anything sexual with her but I thought she really loved me, when we were just friends I had been really open with her about my other issues and insecurities and figured that would've icked her out too much for anything romantic to happen but even after knowing all that she made the first (official) move and asked me out. For a few days I was on top of my world, I thought I had finally beat my inner demons and could be "human" now. After our first date we went back to her place and cuddled for a bit and then started making out and she was really eager (I didn't mind getting sexual "early" with her since we'd been friends even before college) so I started fingerbanging her (I moved my fingers to the pattern of playing Cirno's theme on guitar) and we both started undressing. I was really anxious but I really trusted her and as mentioned earlier I had been open about other problems of mine with her, including my anxiety around s*x, though I hadn't specifically mentioned my micropeepee. I thought things were going well since she didn't seem too concerned and started giving me a gentle handjob but after a few seconds she said "it's ok if you can't get it up right now" and I was like "I am hard" and the face she made is seared into my memory forever. It was a combination of fear and pity. Throughout our relationship, part of what made me love her was that she never looked down on me. I struggle to see myself as being truly "human" with all the innate value that comes with and she was the first woman who really saw me as an equal. In middle and high school I was bullied a lot because I was small and weird and even the people who were nice to me did so out of pity. I got along well with some of the other spergs and I cherish their kindness but I'm a heterosexual man and I long for a romantic relationship with a woman. So yeah, in this moment I had just been knocked from the highest point I had ever been, mentally, to my absolute lowest. I awkwardly got dressed again and walked the couple miles back to my dorm (she lived off-campus) and cried for a few hours which was awkward because my roommate was there. The next day my ex (probably coping) impulsively got a shitty tattoo of some inspirational phrase (I can't even remember the words) and I told her it sucked and that I didn't want to date her anymore and she took it really poorly and ended up telling all of our friends (we mostly had the same friend group) that I was an abusive peepee(let) and made a point to go after my church friends and tell them I was a man-whore and nearly everyone I knew ended up alienating me. It was like a waking nightmare that continued day after day with no promise of ever waking up. My grades plummeted and I dropped out of college shortly afterwards. So yeah, that's my fakecel story and also the backstory of how I ended up in my piece of shit ambulatory rotting corpse life. I hate women so much it's unreal, but I hate myself more. I'm an unlovable freak, I'm evil, there's no hope for me, and I should've been aborted.

!incels kick me, keep me, I don't care anymore, but this is the story of the only romantic encounter I've ever had.

!incels These people can't just vote, they have significantly more influence than 99% of the population.

Link to the sharticle

They are all narcissistic yet lack the drive or desire to stand out that male narcissists have they take a perverse pride in there soulless conformity.

They keep sneek insulting me and the other foids and simps laugh at me in the background.

I also hate the sound of a females voice it makes me way to commit a murder suicide every time I hear it.

IME the height inflation happens more in the (real) 5'8-5'11 height range, bumping themselves up to 5'10-6'.

Be honest about your height. A lot of us care so much more about dishonesty than we do height.

Source: a very tall woman.

As a woman almost every date I've ever had over the last 2 years has lied about their height. Please don't.

I am convinced that nearly every man who claims to be 6 feet tall is lying.

Those who are 5'10 or 5'11 round up to 6 feet. Guys who are actually 6 feet (to the extent they really exist, I'm not convinced) say that they are 6'1 in order to avoid people thinking they're lying.

Honestly, I've seen guys lie about their height up to 4 inches.

I'm starting to think height inflation also includes guys who have lied to themselves for SO LONG that they forgot it was a lie, and a few relationships, apps, and profiles later add an additional two inches to the original lie. There's absolutely no other plausible explanation for how I, a 5'8” woman, am the same height as nearly every 6'0” guy I go on a date with.

It's hysterical at this point

Now think logical how come those women that saying don't lie about height ended up going on date with all those “6'” guys

I'm 5'6”. I've had men who say they're 6' be my height.

I get that they're trying to get higher numbers by putting the 6' number, but I find it to be so cringy I just can't move forward, it's hilarious so I can't take them seriously.

I block them on my way home lol

Bro women care about personality

After I posted I realized my statement came from a self selecting group. Guys willing to shoot their shot with a super tall lady. The height inflating shorter guys may have just been not on my radar at all because they didn't send me likes. 🤷‍♀️

Yeah guys lying about their height to be with tall woman

Short hole: I need a tall guy because then shildren won't be short

Tall hole (they consider them self tall when they are 5'6+): I am tall I need tall guy

Medium hole: I need tall guy so I can wear high heels

I'm a 5'6 guy and I never lie about my height. Even though I'm considered short now, I figure I'll have to meet someone in real life one day, so there's no reason to lie. Plus, I'm awesome! 😏😎

One day…

Dude is bad learner

So here moral is, if you 6' say you are 6'2 or foid will assume u 5'6

The mode for guys is 2. It's so over

The same study that said women rate men lower also showed women were more likely to date men they rated lower.

This belief that women are super choosy is often pushed by incels and simply not true, even in this particular study they cite, it shows the opposite.

Does that mean anything? Of course most women date men they consider to be not attractive, they rated 80% of men as sub 5s

To be fair, women tend to put a lot more effort into being attractive than men do.

Guys could try a bit harder.

most women are fat in america so i'm not really sure this is true

!incels

"Physical attractiveness is more important for upward social mobility for men than women"

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ssqu.13320

"Unpartnered heterosexual men in the U.S. met an average of 2.4 partners for dating or s*x in the past 12 months. Unpartnered heterosexual women who were actively dating met an average of 5.1 partners in the past 12 months" https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-95540-7_6

"Physical Attractiveness is the Strongest Predictor of Initial Romantic Interest in Both Sexes; No Evidence Personality Plays Any Role, Part 2 (Olderbak, Malter, Wolf, Jones, & Figueredo, 2017)"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5519305/

"Men rated poorly written essays much better when told they were written by an attractive female (F = 12.65, dj = 1/54, p < .001) (Landy et al. 1974)"

https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fh0036018

"In a study from New Zealand, women were more likely to initiate domestic violence. The rate of violence initiation was 37% for women and 21.8% for men. 18.6% of women and only 5.7% of men committed severe physical violence (Magdol et al. 1997)"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9103736/

"Having romantic relationships in mid to late teens linked to better mental health and higher self esteem in adulthood"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6003846/

"Short males suffer from outright discrimination, which, according to research, is no less severe than gender or racial discrimination."

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3166828

"Women not only copy the mate choice of other women, but also their mate rejection. (750 female respondents)"

https://rd.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-020-00239-9

"Men hold more positive attitudes towards their female ex-partners than women do towards their male ex-partners (total N = 876) (Athenstaedt et al. 2019)"

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1948550619876633

"Men highest in psychopathy scored significantly higher genuineness and trust ratings compared to men lowest in psychopathy, and women high in emotionality showed more genuineness and trust of high psychopathy men"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886920305857?via%3Dihub

"Men's attraction was correlated with 12 characteristics including partner's conservatism, all Big Five dimensions except openness, anxiety, and self-esteem. For women, only two partner characteristics showed a correlation: physical attractiveness and sport activity."

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00570.x

"Women want taller men more than men want shorter women, and shorter women greatly prefer taller men (Stulp, G., Buunk, A. P., & Pollet, T. V. (2013). Women want taller men more than men want shorter women. Personality and Individual Differences)"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020?via%3Dihub

"Socioeconomic success doesn't yet mean social or sexual acceptance for Asian American men."

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1536504218812869

"In an online sample of heterosexual women, 33% (n=118) reported purposefully misrepresenting their romantic interest in a male suitor to dine at his expense (Collisson, Howell, & Harig, 2019)"

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1948550619856308

"Women and their parents indicated that ambition and intelligence were more important than physical attractiveness for a long-term mate. However, both daughters (68.7%) and their parents (63.3%) chose the more attractive man as the best long-term partner for mating, regardless of his ascribed traits."

https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Febs0000325

"Participants could not be prevented from judging defendants with untrustworthy facial appearances as guilty more often, no matter how hard scientists tried."

https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/a8w2d

"Men liked 61.9% of women on Tinder and women liked a mere 4.5% of men on Tinder"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104

Mentalcel ropefuel jfl

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1390257

"A husband's depression negatively affected his wife's sexual satisfaction. A wife's depression did not affect her husband's sexual satisfaction"

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2023.2166637

"Pro-female and anti-male biases are more influential than race and a multitude of other factors in Implicit Association Tests"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35587425/

"Damaging genetic variants reduce reproductive success substantially in males but much less so in females. Males carriers of such variants are less likely to find reproductive partners. Sexual selection can account for roughly a quarter of all purifying selection on human genes."

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.26.116111v3

"At an American university, a man's physical attractiveness significantly predicted his romantic popularity. Potential for financial success, friendliness, responsibility, trustworthiness, leadership, academic success, and parental qualities did not."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29506449/

"Beauty is objective and measurable in the brain"

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0001201

"Men face more discrimination overall in society than women"

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0205349

"Women have a greater anti-women bias in scientific peer review than men"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0014292116300368?via%3Dihub

"Good looking people are less likely to be arrested or convicted"

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13218719.2019.1618750

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167291175009

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12147-015-9142-5

"Parents are more attentive and care more for daughters than sons"

https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fbne0000199

"Women partnered to low income men are more prone to infidelity"

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-012-9930-x

"Loneliness and mental health problems are rising for both genders"(lifefuel tbh)

https://friendmatch.com/blog/loneliness-a-rising-epidemic-among-the-young.html

https://time.com/5609124/us-suicide-rate-increase/

https://time.com/5550803/depression-suicide-rates-youth/

https://coachmikeblogs.com/anxiety-depression-chemical-imbalance-or-dietary-disaster/