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:marseyfedoratip: r/atheism discusses Oklahoma Superintendent Ryan Walters: Satanists :marseysatanworship2: not welcome in schools but 'welcome to go to heck' :pepejesus:

https://old.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/1dtk8nf/oklahoma_superintendent_ryan_walters_satanists/

								

								

I actually :marseyakshually: do agree :marseythumbsup6: with them that having the Bible :marseychristchanreading: mandatory in K-12 would :marseywood: be a disaster given the average intelligence :marseysnappyenraged2: and politics :marseykissinger: of our public school :marseyeric: system :marseymars: teachers. Intro to the NT/OT courses did a number on whatever :marseytippinghand: remnants of faith I had from childhood until I realized they're all humanities morons who privilege wild speculation and relativism on every point :marseyyourmom: of contention.

Also funny :marseylaughpoundfist: to see the back and forth :marseylibertyfireworks: constantly going :marseysalmaid: on there :marseycheerup: between :marseyzeldalinkpast: "Satanism isn't real" and "Satanism is a good thing, actually."

All my friends :marseymeangirls: hate Satan. :pepejesus: :marseysatanworship2genocide:

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Intro to the NT/OT courses did a number on whatever :marseyjerkofffrown: remnants of faith I had from childhood

Did you go to a catholic :marseybegoneprot: school?

I always here about catholic :marseyselfflagellation: school :marseyeric: causing people to lose their faith but idk if that's actually :marseyakshually: a widespread thing or just the terminally online :marseyidio3: being dramatic

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Intro to the NT/OT are college level classes, I actually went to a Quaker school elementary-middle (parents let me pick for some reason lol) but then dropped out my freshman year after a suicide attempt.

There was no Catechism published between the Baltimore Catechism and the 1990s CCC we're still working out of today. Between the V2 changes, widespread cultural apostasy and there no longer being the same social benefits to attending on top of a weak Catholic structure to pass down the faith, IDK how much difference it made historically. I'm friends with the theology teacher at the nearest Catholic HS to our house in the USA, he's a Third Order Dominican and definitely knows his stuff. YMMV.

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It's new to me with like the catechism and stuff. When I was a Protestant :marseyluthersoy: you just got any information you needed directly from the Bible :marseychristchanreading: and had a friend/family/pastor help you out when confused

Yeah it appears the church :marseystainedglass: is in a transitional phase or trying to find its footing/place in today's society :marseyunabomber2: from my perspective. Definitely seems like many groups are arguing the best way to move forward on how to view the faith

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A lot has changed in the world in the last few hundred years and the Church is a 2000 year old structure with a hierarchical bureaucracy that makes modernization/rapid response a bit harder. Everyone in charge is always from previous generations and we have seen a shift from cultural dominance to all of the West being mission territory for evangelization.

Catholics and Protestants have lost members at roughly equal rates in the post-60s/sexual revolution landscape... for Catholics I think we lacked the strong social structures that Prots to their benefit have: Bible studies, small groups to form friendships/YA groups to meet spouses. The liturgical structure of the Mass isn't good for that compared to Evangelicals who can just freeform it.

That we held even with them is I think a testament to the claims of Apostalic legitimacy and systematic theologies through which you can join your faith with reason and maintain intellectual consistency, to be honest. I am actually pretty optimistic for the future of the Church. Secular society has left young people reeling and desperate for something to latch onto and believe in, so while the next generation or two will continue the present contraction it'll grow out from there. Pope Benedict XVI wrote a lot about this, I'm about to eat dinner but you can google to find what he wrote about a smaller more faithful Church.

Pope Benedict's Introduction to Christianity is a great read for a new Catholic btw.

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I'll have to read that!

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