whose existence they were unaware of a few days before
but xhe declined), Ralph Fiennes decides to stay quiet on it
!kino !catholics what are your thoughts on this film?
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I watched Conclave last week 
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I think I've already written my thoughts on the film in one of the weekly threads, a few months back, but I'll write it again. Conclave is a competent film. The setting is good, the characters are caricatures, but still fun.
But the ending is not great. You have all this intrigue over the film and then the bomb happens, the ultra-trad cardinal spergs out, and then the irrelevant Mexican guy makes "the speech". You know, "the speech". The movie cliche, where the main character delivers a monologue about compassion or some other nonsense at the end of a movie, that magically convinces everyone, and makes everyone happy. It's a dumb trope that not doesn't work in the real world it also completely undermines the theme the rest of the movie tried to convey: that the Vatican - despite supposedly being a holy institution - is still fundamentally human, with all the human vices corrupting it. The same corruption that every political institution deals with.
And then the final final twist is just bad. It comes out of nowhere and adds nothing to the plot. I instantly knew a lot of people here and in other chud spaces would sperg out over it being anti-Christian or whatever, but I personally don't care about that. It was just a pointless addition to an already lacklustre ending.
It honestly feels like a film from 2014-16, when this kind of thing would have still been edgy.
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The book came out in 2016; so you're bang on the money there.
The book was also less sledge hammery from what I gather about the film. In the book the elected pope is also an Iraqi who is the Archbishop of Baghdad, and they build up that part of the reason he can gain steam is the desire for a pope from outside the first world to make poor or persecuted Catholic peoples feel represented. Twist is still dumb in the book tho too, be fair.
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That makes a lot of sense. Didn't know it was based on a book.
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