In the offtopic section on a forum about Kratom (an opioid analgesic plant) that spun off from a similar subreddit after they got banned for 'sourcing', on a saturday in 2019, this utter vomit was posted:

I am trying to figure out what's going on with my daughter in law,,and now son,,she says she's always had this gift of sorts,,in the past year,,she tells me these frightening things,,how times it feels like something is holding her down on the bed,,having scratches, red marks,don't bleed, just show up,,thinks she has demonic attachments,,,now for the past couple of months, my son sometimes goes to bed,,feels like someone sat on the bed,,turns around, no one there,,it doesn't scare him,,just annoying,,and latest is about twice a month,he comes home,,and senses something, when he looks in the mirror, he's got 2 red lines,like a papercut on his forehead,,it's freaking him out,said he never experienced this type of thing till his wife started to experience things,,said whatever follows her is trying to attach to him,,I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK!

They proceed to talk about 'smudging' the ghost

Smudging really works. Every place we move, we always smudge before we move in. It gets rid of bad entities AS WELL AS leftover bad energy, and that could be all this is.

smudging has become very popular, ,I have my crystals, ,but for some reason I'm very attracted to early early, native american practices and artifacts,dreamcatchers everywhere, arrowheads, arrow points,scrapers,,ax heads,so many found near creeks, ,,I have a book about medical healing hebs,practicing, the rituals,,,I try to incorporate both crystals, for the physical self,and energy surrounding us,along with the smudging and rituals to cleanse leftover remnants of past energys, on another note,,my grandson, who is neurodivergent, ,is very calmed down by playing native american flute meditational utube music,,I think it could help calm down activity in the rest of the house,certainly won't hurt,,?

But of course, the skeptics show up

Show me some scientific evidence that proves that spirits or ghosts exist and I'll listen. Or evidence that waving sage smoke around with a feather actually does anything.Your reasoning of "well it doesn't hurt anything" is a version of Pascal's wager.

You're looking for advice? See a primary physician and get those kids referred to a psychiatrist/psychologist. Maybe the mother and grandmother too, if they are planting and reinforcing delusional thoughts into their heads.

The rebuttal:

Science and doctors can't fix this, ,,since you have no knowledge of these things,anything you say in future is invalid, ,your chakras are blocked up, you lack insight

Schizo weighs in :

From all the stuff i had extra time to study, i am convinced we are not alone in universe. Even the moon. When we tried to shit on moon with our trash being send up there, dont matter any country, Russa, USA, China, everyone was warned. Look hard enough, you will see some pics floating on the back side of the moon having bases. Who gets to clean up all the shit we sent up there and goes out of order? not earth humans and they simply got sick of wiping shit (who ever they are). Thats why you still hear no more race to the moon or any type of that thing. I am sure some beings on moon work with some earth people and have even a base for earth people with C02. Now thats just assumption, so go figure. Some say its Reptilians others says its tall whites, maybe there is more then one race on it.

Sperg spergs about some shit idk:

Well this thread has gone from worse to shit. Please continue. Science is a faith! Science hates transgenders! Do transgrdender spirit exist, and do they transition before or after spiriting away? Miyazaki is a homophobe? That's what I read! Is the word homophone homophobic? Standley Kubrick directed 9/11!!

Vaccines (remember this was pre-covid vaccine), autism, and train drama:

Anti vax? Evil? If your child were a victim, you would do your research, :doctor confirmed it, fortunately the % is small,,but research has proved it MMR VACCINE BTW, transphobia is a totally different subject than the movement to Not assigning gender to a newborn, ,You have a baby,if it's a boy do you dress him as a a boy or in dresses too,,I doubt it,,,that's the evil movement

More evidence that anti-vaxers are evil is their disdain for neurodivergent people. They would rather their child get fricking polio or die than have autism. It’s quite disgusting really.

Finally:

You’re a professional victim and you’re going to be one until you die. I didn’t read all that mess, but I skimmed enough to see it’s just a bunch more ignorant busy-body bile and vitriol tossed my way - like usual.

And I’ve seen your not-so-subtle accusations of me being a narcissist littered all over the forum. All I can say is that if you weren’t a victim, you wouldn’t have a personality trait at all. I’m real sick of you. I think you’re a terrible, ignorant, bigoted, vindictive person. And I’ve had about enough of your shit talk and personal attacks. Go kick rocks.

Your passionate and illiterate rambling personal attack against me doesn’t contain a single shred of evidence you know what you are talking about.

Basically CRC is only used when you have trash oil or a trash SOP for extraction. CRC turns your brown/yello/gold extracts into crumbly white bullshit that tastes awful and smokes worse.

Mac Miller award

Hey I have a headache and have been considering nightshade for anti inflammatory

Alright listen up frickers. I'm too high to make any interesting drug posts here tonight but I'm planning on starting soon.

To start this hole off, post and discuss your favorite music to listen to, either per drug class (depressant, stimulant, dissociative, psychedelic) or while on a specific drug

This isn't really a thread for music about drugs, although you can post it if it fits.

As an example, here's some music I really enjoy listening to on dissociative drugs:

And here's some music I enjoy listening to on opioids:

Discuss!

Thought I would make a personal tier list of my favorite legal highs (at least legal in the only country that matters )

This list is NOT extensive or complete, just my personal favs and hates. This is not a list of prescription drugs, just stuff you can order on the clear web or get OTC at stores. I'm also skipping cannabis because it's not legal everywhere yet (and it's for strags )

Let's get started then, shall we?

SHIT TIER

Nicotine

I really don't need to say much about why nicotine sucks in all it's forms. It's just not worth taking.

BORING TIER

Alcohol

Alcohol is one of the weakest, shortest duration, and most overall toxic of the GABAergics that I've taken. It's also just really uninteresting and generally uncomfortable.

L-Theanine

Theanine is really only good with Caffeine. On it's own, it does next to nothing. Taking a large dose almost feels like a small dose of gabapentin.

Racetams and Noopept

Not much to say about them. Minor stimulation and a slight 'glow' at mid-high doses. People swear by their nootropic abilities, and I have noticed a moderate increase in memory recall before.

DECENT TIER

Caffeine

Caffeine, especially in energy drink form, is great for when you want to focus, but still kinda relax - like playing a game, having a conversation with friends, or doing some chores. It's pretty nice being somewhat stimulated but not feeling the need to do things constantly, like with amphetamines.

It's also pretty tasty in most forms, and can actually be quite relaxing, especially when combined with L-Theanine (like in green tea). Best used occasionally (as I know you all have extremely high caffeine tolerance and will say it does nothing for you anymore )

Salvia

Salvia is one of those drugs that's extremely interesting conceptually, but kinda sucks in practice.

Sweating and discomfort followed by becoming an inanimate object for 2000 years, followed by days of depression. It's unique and worth checking out if you're adventurous. It's also probably the strongest drug on this list.

GBL / GHB / 2M2B

Is your alcohol making too much acetaldehyde in your stomach and poisoning you the next day? Yeah, it does that.

Would you prefer that your alcohol hit much harder but last less time? GBL/GHB are a good solution. A literal cleaning solution, at that!

Are you feeling scammed that the shot of vodka you bought didn't last 14 hours? Try 2M2B!

Final thoughts: These are all very interesting GABAergics with differing use cases, but not for me.

DPH

Diphenhydramine is great if you want to see spiders, shadow men, and horrors from another dimension while also constantly forgetting where you are and what's happening. It's a genuinely interesting experience, and it causes dream-like structures to appear in your waking reality as opposed to the geometry of psychedelics, meaning it has the most 'realistic graphics' of any hallucinatory drug.

It's also good at a low dose for fapping. Not sure why.

GREAT TIER

Kratom

Kratom is a south east asian plant which contains the indole alkaloid mitragynine. It's an opioid with relaxing or stimulating effects, depending on the dose. Pretty cool. It can hit very hard the first few times (or if you combine it with 30-60mg of DXM to reset your tolerance ) and can even make you 'nod' like a traditional opioid. It does have a sort of 'built-in abuse mitigation' in that it will make you violently nauseated if you reach a certain dose (which depends on you and your tolerance).

Kratom is a great drug to relax, to prevent pain while doing physical work , or to be social. It's also amazing for essentially eliminating stimulant come-downs.

Nitrous Oxide

Nitrous is a 'turbo button' for psychedelics, dissos, cannabis, and a slew of others. On it's own, it's a bit weak, but combine it with certain drugs and you will be shot to the fricking moon. It's really no joke - but it only lasts about 30 seconds. Still, an amazing substance if you're already high - and, being a dissociative, it actually prevents anxiety during the blast-off (unlike using cannabis to enhance psychedelics).

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GOD TIER

Phenibut

Phenibut is a gabapentinoid that, interestingly, acts on GABA B (and also A). It's basically alcohol, with less mental impairment, that lasts for 12-16 hours, has high levels of euphoria, enhances music, makes every shot of alcohol 4x stronger, and makes you a gigachad socially. It's also legal, cheap (if you can find it these days), and doesn't have a hangover - in fact, you'll feel GREAT the next day because of how well you'll sleep.

The best part about phenibut's social aspect is that it makes you more empathetic, like MDMA.

There's only really one downside - it takes 6 hours to really 'kick in', so prepare ahead of time.

DXM

DXM has a reputation of being a 'teenager drug', but the people who say that haven't taken a 3rd plateau dose.

DXM is a very powerful dissociative opioid with SSRI properties. What does this mean? - It means that DXM acts like an unholy amalgamation of ketamine, codeine, and MDMA. It also happens to reset your tolerance to stimulants and opioids, and is being researched as an antidepressant. It's also by FAR the best drug for music enhancement. This is not debatable.

There are four different 'plateaus' of DXM doses, which all have unique effects. The most interesting are 2nd and 3rd plateau - 2nd plateau is excellent for music listening and fading into the background of reality. It also makes you want to move your body, as every motion feels incredible. You'll be stumbling like an r-slur though.

In contrast, if you move around a lot on 3rd plateau, you'll vomit. Hard. 3rd plateau will suck you deep into a dark, boundless expanse of dream-like structures and voids. It's impossible to explain, but it is extremely profound. DXM also combines incredibly with psychedelics. The best and strongest drug experience I've ever had was on LSD+DXM.

I could go on for hours about all of the incredible things DXM can do, but the unfortunate downside is that it's not for everyone - I would estimate that 1/4 people who try DXM will hate it - there's also a small subsection of the population that lacks the enzyme to break it down, meaning they will likely have an extremely long nightmare trip.

In conclusion, DXM is not just my favorite legal drug, it is my favorite drug.

And that's the end of this loooooooongpost. Hope you learned something. Or not. Idk.

If you have any questions about any of these drugs, feel free to ask - or you can always check out psychonautwiki.org and erowid.org for more information on psychoactive chems. We should definitely keep illegal sourcing out of this hole, but as all of these drugs are legal and OTC, feel free to ask for sources in this thread if you need a good brand.

Please comment with your own favorite and least favorite 'legal highs' (you know, if you want )

Drugcels

I bet he's still using lol

https://old.reddit.com/r/CannabisExtracts/comments/y4stmb/process_for_steam_distilling_small_molecules_from?sort=controversial

Lmfao

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