I would like to believe that if you bothered to read all this you've learned something that you can apply to the rest of the world. Because the whole world is fricked up in the same ways that Lebanon is. It's just way worse there. A few things I've learned in my time researching the subject:
One of the first things you'll hear in any mayo midwit's account of what's going on in the Middle East is that all the conflicts are due to "ancient hatreds". Everything would be solved if these barbarian savages would just give up their grudges they've been holding on to since medieval times. That would be a very convenient way to explain everything and make us feel good about ourselves because we're too civilized to have ancient hatreds. The problem is, it doesn't hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. How was every faction allied with practically every other faction at some point in those 15 years if they can't let go of their hatred? By the end, even the Lebanese Forces and Palestinians who had started the war in the first place were allies. Walid Joumblatt worked for the guy who killed his father for decades. If anything, the Lebanese are notable for how forgiving they are. When they fight each other it's because that makes sense to them in the immediate situation. People in Lebanon have always had many good reasons in the present to fight each other without needing any ancient hatreds.
Kamal Joumblatt with his sister, Linda al-Atrash. Bashir Gemayel found out which Christian thugs killed her and offered him their names. He was like "nah, forget about it ".
Unfortunately, while most people feel compelled to participate in violence by the situation they're stuck in, some just like the violence. No matter how perfect your society is, you're going to have a certain number of sociopaths who just have no interest in the good of the community. They'll do anything they can to get ahead. That's why it's important for society to figure out how to control them. We have to make sure that killing and stealing isn't worth it. In Lebanon, the government institutions that normally keep evil people in line fell apart. When society is broken up into a bunch of little 500-man militias, it's extremely difficult to hold criminals accountable. There were dozens of cease-fires in the Lebanese Civil War and all but the last one broke down. Usually it was because some low-ranking guy wanted the war to continue so he started shooting.
When you don't keep your people under control, this is what happens.
The breakdown of public order is most obvious in kidnappings and assassinations, the two things Lebanon was most famous for. It began at the start of the war when checkpoints were set up and people were caught on the wrong side of the lines from home. Why not shake them down a little? But without law enforcement it quickly became obvious that you just grab someone and demand a ransom. If they kidnapped one of your people, often the best solution was to kidnap one of theirs to swap. It spirals out of control very fast. Likewise, it didn't take long for the militias to realize that during the many cease-fires that made up most of the 15 years, you could just drive into your enemy's neighborhood and shoot him at his front door. As security got better you needed to [put a bomb on his car](https://, and when they kept all their cars in garages you had to put a huge bomb in the trunk of another car and detonate it as he drove by. Investigating these bombings during a civil war was impossible (and isn't much easier in our time so the only way to respond was to guess which militia was responsible and bomb them. We'll never know how many times a third party assassinated someone to push two rival groups into war.
TWA Flight 847, June 1985. Eventually simple kidnapping isn't enough. If you've got dozens of prisoners held by your enemies, hijack an airplane and grab dozens of hostages to trade for them.
My main conclusion is that nobody has fixed Lebanon yet because it's really really hard to. If there was an easy solution someone would have figured it out by now. Everyone knows that to make any fundamental change the system that pits the sects against each other must be broken. Many people with good intentions have tried. All of them failed. Most of them were killed. We can't expect to see anyone succeed in our generation. But maybe the Lebanese of today can go part of the way, rooting out corruption and building ties across sectarian lines. Their children could be the ones who finally break out of the cycle.
Sep 9, 1982. The US Marines' mission had been a complete success, escorting the Palestinian troops to their evacuation ships. The 15 day assignment had been carried out without bloodshed. They would be back 20 days later on an open-ended mission that was not accomplished.
So what can we do from the outside to help? The Americans came with good intentions but that wasn't enough. The Israelis came with overwhelming force and that wasn't enough. In the end it was the Syrians who finally imposed their ending on the civil war. They had what the other powers lacked: the willingness to get their hands dirty. I don't just mean violence (although that is one part of it), I mean being willing to spend money and energy, to kill whoever is in the way, to send your own people to their deaths. And you have to be willing to do that year after year, however long it takes. The Syrians had that because Lebanon had to function in order for Syria to function. Despite being a small, poor, backward country, Syria managed to outlast all its rivals because Lebanon was that important to them.
Syrian troops enter Beirut, November 1976. They came to help at first. By the end of the war they had fought the Palestinians, Christians, Israelis, and occasionally their supposed allies.
So to answer the question, the first thing we need to do before we try to help is to ask ourselves what kind of commitment we're willing to make. For almost all of us, Lebanon is just a little country far away that doesn't have the slightest impact on our lives. We're just not going to sacrifice as much to impose our will there as Syria or Israel or the main regional powers. We've got to be realistic and only get involved if we've got the patience to keep up that level of involvement for years. Sending in the Marines now might solve a short-term crisis, but it's not going to get to the root of Lebanon's problems because they can't stay there long enough.
The ruins of the US Marine barracks, Oct 23, 1983. An expertly-driven suicide truck bomb leveled the building, kill 241 men. The same day a similar attack against the French killed 58.
At this point, we can probably do the most good by going after money laundering. The corrupt elite have drained enormous amounts of money from Lebanon and stashed it in Europe. If we cut that flow they won't keep getting richer and more powerful. If we find the money they've already laundered and seize it, we cut their balls off and get the cash to fund reconstruction at the same time. When corruption isn't so obscene we can make cautious investments in rebuilding infrastructure, especially targeting projects that force the different sects to cooperate to benefit from it. We can train and equip a Lebanese Army capable of maintaining order and also deterring the aggression of Syria and Israel. Whatever we do, we need to know what our limit is and not get sucked into trying to do more. Maybe with that help, the Lebanese can save themselves.
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Snapshots of the Syrian Civil War series:
1. Syrian perspective
2. Christian militias
3. Shi'a militias
4. Israelis
5. Palestinians (i.e. Fatah vs. Everyone else)
6. Druze
GOOD posts
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Thx fam! I forgot.
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Snapshot of my hairy butthole and peepee + balls:
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!besties how does aevann know I wax my bussy
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I sent him everything on you back in may 2023 when you thought bad of Russia after stubbing your toe, he has seen every single inch of you to such detail that he might as well be an expert.
I know that he didn't like it, but my dedication to spreading truth and peace to the world at large is so big, some airliners have to be shot down, bussyleaks have to be made.
Don't forget that in the end, I will win and they'll be wrong, glory to Russia!
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Even Syria suffered massive blowback from entering Lebanon with sectarian violence as people started to associate the Ba'ath government with sectarianism which totally realigned internal Syrian politics.
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I hadn't heard of this thing in Aleppo before but I see there was one more reason to freak out about Islamists in 1979. This + the Iranian Revolution + the siege in Mecca all in one year.
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The Syrian Islamists were traditionally rather tolerant as far as Islamist go(still not a lot), uniquely affirming belief in democracy and pluralism due to the religious diversity of Syria under Mustapha al Sibai and Issam al-Attar
They also embraced Ibn Taymiyya who has that fatwa calling for total Alawite death.
They got dragged into the sectarian polarization just as everyone else did when Sunni Syrians viewed the Ba'ath government as sectarian butchers and demanded confrontation especially with the economic decline meaning that competition over government resources became more salient.
The Aleppo massacre meant that a lot of Sunni officers were purged for obvious reasons.
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Yeah, it caused all kinds of problems for them. Another one is that they send conscripts into this country that's much richer than Syria and pretty soon they start looting. So it really hurts discipline in the army because the guys are more interested in what they can steal and send home than defeating the enemy.
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ok but looting is based ngl
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I always could use a bigger TV...
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I didn't read it, but upmarseyd for your effort and your legitimate concern and love for the Lebanese people.
I just can say that there's a nice Lebanese restaurant a few blocks from where I live (owner is a Lebanese lady) and that I love Nassim Taleb's twitter rants against panarabcels and dunking on “le religion wars” reductionists. Oh and my mom is friends with a wealthy Syrian lady, a Christian Maronite, she and her husband migrated to Brazil as the Civil War got worse, they lived in Aleppo.
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Yeah that's so annoying. In the first couple years there was one side that was all Christian... and after that it doesn't even make any sense at all anymore.
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If you have a preference on what I write about next, let me know here.
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Ayre fik
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This was a great series good work
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Thank you.
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I haven't read your entire series yet but I went through your profile and saved all your Lebanon posts for later.
Thanks for the writeups you flip. King shit.
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Lebanon remained poor and unimportant
The end
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It was actually doing very well in the 1960s, or at least Beirut was. It was where all the big banks and multinational corporations put their Middle East headquarters. It had a good airport, good telecommunications links, all the restaurants and entertainment that a First World expat would want, and low crime.
Also it was the prime tourist destination for Arabs since it's cool up in the mountains even during summer. You already speak the language and you don't have to go too far. Rich Gulf Arabs would spend their summers there when their own countries were too hot to survive in.
Then the war broke out and they started tossing guys out the windows of those tall buildings.
They're doing way worse now than back then. Maybe in some ways even worse than during the civil war. At least back then there was some economic activity going on.
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It could have been like Singapore
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You should do a write up on modern Lebanon then.
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It's pretty fricking depressing. The economy is totally destroyed. They've had no president for, I dunno 2 or 3 years. The director of the central bank just took a bunch of cash out of it for himself. Government has practically ceased to exist.
But yeah, I should write something to connect the civil war to what's happening now, because they are really tied in. The political parties are just militias that gave up their guns but they've still got the same leaders and the same agenda.
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I wonder what the future may hold. A balkanization? Even with the country only having a few million to begin with? The incorporation of the land into neighboring states?
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They've been talking about that for as long as the country has existed:
One proposal is for the land along the coast between Beirut and Tripoli to be independent. It's a relatively big chunk of land with a large Christian majority all through. The Lebanese Forces talked about this, and they de facto did it for a long time, pretty much running that area as their own little state. Problems include: A lot of Christians are scattered all throughout Lebanon, it would be really awkward having the all Christian east side of Beirut be in a different country from West Beirut across the street, it just wouldn't be big enough to be economically viable,.
Syria annexing parts of it would make some sense, since the border is completely arbitrary. Most colonial borders do at least have some logic to them, but Lebanon was just designed by the French to have as large a Christian population as possible. Again, this is de facto what happened during and after the civil war. Syrian troops occupied the Bekaa Valley, areas up north around Tripoli, some of the mountains. And they pretty much ruled it like it was their own little country. But the international community is extremely unlikely to go for borders changing. Even in situations where it's ridiculous, like making Kosovo independent instead of just letting Albania annex it.
Oh yeah, and the south is pretty much run by Hezbollah.
So I do expect balkanization, but not with anyone formally declaring independence.
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TL;DR: France bad
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Cold War France was super based
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In your studies did you uncover the mysterious reason why Beer Pong is also called Beirut?
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It's called that because it's very similar to militias firing artillery down from the hills and usually missing their targets.
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Thank you, OP, I much enjoyed this series of posts.
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so at the end of the year, this was all just a bigass wind-up for an anti-bitcoin screed? You're for the mark of the beast, just admit it
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Linda? Mama mia, her kitty's atrash
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The tale of history forms a very strong bulwark against the stream of time, and to some extent checks its irresistible flow, and, of all things done in it, as many as history has taken over, it secures and binds together, and does not allow them to slip away into the abyss of oblivion.
-- Anna Comnena
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"ancient hatreds":
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certain number of sociopaths:
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drive into your enemy's neighborhood and shoot him:
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US Marines' mission:
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an open-ended mission:
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They came to help at first.:
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leveled the building, kill 241 men:
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