!historychads pic related was taken 15 minutes after the nuke detonated.
It was dropped by the B-29 Bockscar, commanded by USAAF captain Frederick C. Bock
Here's a pic of Fat Man, it was an implosion type weapon and carried plutonium was fissile material.
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unironically reading what the japanese did to the chinese in ww2 made me realize that two bombs wasn't enough
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It really is unreal how evil they were. During the liberation of the Philippines, 10,000 jap Marines basically deserted to hole up in manilla and massacre 100,000 civilians before it was recaptured. They would do things like lock civilians in hospitals and blow them up. It's not even like this was a top down thing, they wanted to tape and murder so badly.
"Violent mutilations, r*pes, and massacres occurred in schools, hospitals and convents"
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@Corinthian I'm sure your wife's family are big fans of the Nips
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My maternal grandpappy was a marine under MacArthur over here in the Philippines and in Okinawa during the war. I shared some pics last year. !Pinoypride
While I still think targeting civilians is an intrinsically evil act, neither my family or the in-laws have ever spoken positively about the Japs.
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Omnicidal anti-human demon worshippers burned away in atomic fire
My grandfather was a Marine during WW2 as well. He never ate rice after that until the day he died of melanoma, and he would celebrate VJ day every year with a tall glass of scotch neat
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When mine returned he continued to love SOS "shit on a shingle" (creamed chip beef in cream on toast) and Vienna sausages for the rest of his life, and got a real kick out of introducing the grandkids to those WW2 MRE staples and seeing us actually enjoy them.
If the bombs had targeted military sites I wouldn't have mixed feelings, but it's tribalism rather than consistent morality to condemn Nazi/Jap atrocities and excuse Allied ones. We didn't even issue the standard warning period like in other firebombing campaigns.
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It was a global total war with ongoing industrial scale genocide. Each day it dragged on was condemning at minimum thousands more to die daily. In that scenario the civilian populace of the perpetrating nations were legitimate and proportionate military targets.
It's my heresy, and you're not going to change my mind on this one
I also find Peter 2:18 objectionable if you want a fun one. New age translations will make it nicer by replacing slave with servant
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I just get depressed discussing this and nobody here is in a position of military/governmental importance for it to matter so I'll give it one response and bow out, but since you're Catholic I'll start by saying that "the ends justify the means" has never and will never be a permissible view within the Church, and the Vatican denounced the bombings immediately and again during V2/in current subsequent editions of the Catechism.
Numerous generals and military officials refute the dominant narrative that the bombings were necessary to end the war, and given the Allied nations' reluctance to intervene whatsoever in the Holocaust it's questionable if they were particularly motivated by protecting Chinese lives, either.
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It's something for me to work through, but there's a lot more personal shit tied into my views on this than simple historical armchair jingoism.
Your Catholic arguments are much stronger, and I'm aware I'm theologically wrong. However, I will debate this shit militarily and politically with you forever. I can almost certainly find quotes from most, if not all, of those figures justifying strategic bombing. There's no theological difference besides their magnitudes between firebombs and nuclear weapons.
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The Battle of Manila should never have happened, to begin with, but Yamashita's r-slurred Nip subordinate disobeyed orders to vacate the city and dug in. Thus, Manila became the second most destroyed city in the war, after Warsaw, and Yamashita got the rope.
Because of that alone, LeMay should have authorized atomic blanketing of the entire Japanese archipelago and allowed the gooks and chinks to rampage after the clouds have dissipated for Total Jap Death
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I'm an unironic weaboo (tho I don't watch anime), I love Japan. But I also know those motherlovers deserved every kiloton and a whole lot more.
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Japan is great post-American subjagation.
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