This is from a mass arrest of mafia bosses, who were all gathered in the same place to discuss the mafia. No one believed that these guys were actual criminals.
heres a newspaper article about the 1957 mass arrest
— eigenrobot (@eigenrobot) March 1, 2023
it spends its entire length ridiculing the notion that a mafia exists immediately after the heads of the mafia have been arrested en masse at a gathering and while they are all locked in the same jail pic.twitter.com/HZaeELqMWB
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Journ*lists didn't just turn to shit in the last couple of years. They have always been contemptible.
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t. Kiekergaard
Being woke to the journo menace is not new either.
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Yes but at least they didn't write like theater kids back then. The phrasing in this article is hilariously old timey.
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I bet if you read that in the 50s you'd want to punch his effeminate butt for talking like that.
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Having lived among the apes, the Eye-talyans will tell you that there are five primary mafia groups, in the same way !burgers who have seen some shit will describe gangs and get banned from Reddit for imblyign that minorities do crimes. !chuds
La Cosa Nostra -- The island of Sicily
La Stidda -- Also Sicily, maybe the southern half
'Ndrangheta -- Calabria (the toe of the boot of Italy, sort of)
Sacra Corona Unita -- (the high heel of the boot of Italy?)
Società Foggiana or maybe La Camorra -- the shin of the boot?
I hate Italians.
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!chuds HE SAID THE BIPOC WORD
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Today South Italians are still lazy BIPOCs
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ay, this jabroni's spreading discrimatory stereotypes about Italian-Americans!
!the_family cap this peepeesucker...uh, I mean teach 'im not to mess around with this foolish racism, capiche??
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mica pisci quando parlo?
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¿que?
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well well
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Who wrote this random article? People write articles about anything. It does not serve as proof of a consensus that a national mafia was considered a myth.
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SOURCE SOURCE DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE
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Do you have a source on that?
Source?
A source. I need a source.
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
Nope, still haven't.
I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.
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I'm saying your "source" is shit.
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Wait, 1957?! After the high time of the Mafia was already in the 20s?
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Of course not, this was years after Al Capone had been imprisoned and died. It was all a very public. No one was really denying the existence of Italian gangs. I really hate it when Twitter midwits read some random old texts out of context and think that makes them historians.
Anyway, the denial was mainly about their scale and whether they were working together on a national level. J. Edgar Hoover (the director of FBI) was publicly downplaying Mafia.
We know he was knowingly lying, the feds were pretty good at tracking those people. Notably, the US intelligence worked with Lucky Luciano during WW2, using him to protect US ports from sabotage, and also to contact Mafia in Italy to help organize resistance to Mussolini. As a reward he was released from prison and deported to Italy.
Speaking of Lucky Luciano, when the DEA (back then it was called FBN) learned about the Havana Conference and Luciano being in Cuba, they threatened to sanction the country if they won't kick him out.
Clearly, the other US government agencies were well aware of the Mafia operations and treated it seriously. And it was a big topic in the media. Random example: the 1957 assassination of Albert Anastasia, a Mafia hitman, was a front-page news in New York Times. The "old mafia myth" article quoted by the OP is from 1959.
So why was Hoover/FBI downplaying it? We don't really know. There are several hypotheses 1) He was being blackmailed for being gay 2) He was corrupt 3) He was dumb 4) He was doing this for PR. There isn't much evidence, so it's all speculation.
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This is a really long way of saying you don't frick.
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Just like how Venezeulan street gangs aren't taking over Libtard cities
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Who does not know that the first law of historical writing is the truth.
-- Cicero
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Typical yellow journ*lism trying to stoke anti-italianism
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The Mafia isn't real, chuds, just a bunch of underprivileged immigrants trying to make their way in an oppressive society!
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it's because the CIA worked with them during world war 2 to help us out in italy so I guess people were still covering for them.
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I don't know who that guy was so he was probably just a crank, but I enjoyed reading those old articles anyway. I could hear the writer's accent and smell the cigar smoke in his dingy room. Makes me want to play LA Noire again.
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