There were also a conspiracy within the Catholic Church from Nazi sympathizers to help Nazis flee from the Nuremberg Trials and give them fake documents and shelter.
Catholics made up a lot of resistance to Nazis and several clergy died in concentration camps:
Israeli historian Pinchas Lapide estimated that Catholic rescue of Jews amounted to somewhere between 700,000 and 860,000 people
One was St. Maximilian Kolbe
a Polish Catholic priest and Conventual Franciscan friar who volunteered to die in place of a man named Franciszek Gajowniczek in the German death camp of Auschwitz, located in German-occupied Poland during World War II.
Kolbe's life was strongly influenced in 1903, when he was 9, by a vision of the Virgin Mary. He later described this incident:
That night I asked the Mother of God what was to become of me. Then she came to me holding two crowns, one white, the other red. She asked me if I was willing to accept either of these crowns. The white one meant that I should persevere in purity and the red that I should become a martyr. I said that I would accept them both.
After the outbreak of World War II, Kolbe was one of the few friars who remained in the monastery, where he organized a temporary hospital.[7] After the town was captured by the Germans, they arrested him on 19 September 1939; he was later released on 8 December.[13][7] He refused to sign the Deutsche Volksliste, which would have given him rights similar to those of German citizens in exchange for recognizing his ethnic German ancestry.[28] Upon his release he continued work at his friary where he and other friars provided shelter to refugees from Greater Poland including 2,000 Jews whom he hid from German persecution in the Niepokalanów friary.
Kolbe received permission to continue publishing religious works, though significantly reduced in scope.[28] The monastery continued to act as a publishing house, issuing a number of publications considered anti-nazi
On 17 February 1941, the monastery was shut down by the German authorities. That day Kolbe and four others were arrested by the Gestapo and imprisoned in the Pawiak prison.[13] On 28 May, he was transferred to Auschwitz as prisoner 16670.
Continuing to act as a priest, Kolbe was subjected to violent harassment, including beatings and lashings. Once, he was smuggled to a prison hospital by friendly inmates.
At the end of July 1941, a prisoner escaped from the camp, prompting the deputy camp commander, SS-Hauptsturmführer Karl Fritzsch, to pick ten men to be starved to death in an underground bunker to deter further escape attempts. When one of the selected men, Franciszek Gajowniczek, cried out, "My wife! My children!" Kolbe volunteered to take his place
According to an eyewitness, who was an assistant janitor at that time, in his prison cell Kolbe led the prisoners in prayer. Each time the guards checked on him, he was standing or kneeling in the middle of the cell and looking calmly at those who entered. After they had been starved and deprived of water for two weeks, only Kolbe and three others remained alive.[31]
The guards wanted the bunker emptied, so they gave the four remaining prisoners lethal injections of carbolic acid. Kolbe is said to have raised his left arm and calmly waited for the deadly injection.[20] He died on 14 August 1941. He was cremated on 15 August, the feast day of the Assumption of Mary.
Kolbe's recognition as a Christian martyr generated some controversy within the Catholic Church.[37] While his self-sacrifice at Auschwitz was considered saintly and heroic, he was not killed out of odium fidei (hatred of the faith), but as the result of his act of Christian charity toward another man. Pope Paul VI recognized this distinction at Kolbe's beatification, naming him a Confessor and giving him the unofficial title "martyr of charity". Pope John Paul II, however, overruled the commission he had established (which agreed with the earlier assessment of heroic charity). John Paul II wanted to make the point that the Nazis' systematic hatred of whole categories of humanity was inherently also a hatred of religious (Christian) faith; he said that Kolbe's death equated to earlier examples of religious martyrdom.
During World War II, Kolbe's monastery at Niepokalanów sheltered Jewish refugees.[43] According to the testimony of a local, "When Jews came to me asking for a piece of bread, I asked Father Maximilian if I could give it to them in good conscience, and he answered me, 'Yes, it is necessary to do this because all men are our brothers.'"
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The film portrays a colorful imaginary world where the Pope was AFRAID of Hitler and didn't know what to do (really the one representative of God on earth, doesn't know what to do? Really the man chosen as representative of God on earth---AFRAID OF Hitler? AFRAID OF DEATH?) This is ridiculous. What we know from history is that Pope Pius kept quiet. He kept quiet not because he feared the Nazis, because there is nothing to fear for a true believer.
He kept quiet because he approved of what the Nazis were doing.
The very ambiguity and lack of clarity of the Church's actions, shows clearly that the Pope and the Nazis were in collaboration. If the Pope believed that the Jews should be defended, he would have shouted it from all the rooftops and let the Nazis crucify him just like Jesus and die a heroes death. What better way for a Pope to die as a martyr than to sacrifice himself for the good cause? It's because the Pope did NOT believe the Jews should be defended that he stayed quiet.
Unfortunately, a lot of Catholic reviewers and apologists for the Pope scour the earth to repaint history in a way that made the Pope seem like a hero who just couldn't do much about the situation. These same apologists try to paint Hitler as an atheist when that is absolutely not true.
Hitler was a life-long practicing member of the Catholic church till the day he died. The Nazis frequently met with the Catholic church and had agreements with them.
You think if the Catholic church was afraid of dying to Nazis, that is insane. The Catholics, if they truly believed they were being persecuted would gladly sacrifice themselves and stand up to those that commit evil (like the Nazis) if they truly believed the Nazis were evil.
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You know I was reading a bunch of history articles right now and I realized, the US invented nukes, the US won ww2, then the US won the space race, then the US helped set up the post ww2 rules based order, then they invented the microchip, then the US helped set up international organizations like the world trade organization, after this they invented the smartphone, after that they invented CRISPR, after that they invented AI, after that they are currently working on humanoid robots.
Basically the US has been stacking wins decade on decade and that is why they are the most powerful country in the world, and every 20 to 30 years one country surpasses them in one single field and everybody thinks the US led world order is ending.
It's kinda crazy how much of the modern world is just the American inventions world.
It's even crazier that in the 20th century multiple major inventions were still being created by non-Americans.
Funnily enough the British invented the internet.
If you look at the 21st century inventions list though, the list is now far heavier with American inventors than the previous century, suggesting that the US has actually advanced a whole lot further up in the tech and creation department in comparison to the previous century, leaving only nation states like South Korea and Japan at best to provide any additional relevant technologies.
I honestly think there will come a point in time where only the US will be inventing major stuff and all the other nation states will just by the research supply chain that flows up towards the US for final product creation.
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the British invented the internet
This is a bad take. A very bad take. Your historical illiteracy makes me shudder. I wouldn't flaunt your ignorance by saying that anyone other than America invented the Internet.
Seriously, the roots of it are in a plan in the early 1960s (back when systems engineering chads were in power) for how America should have a strategy for the whole computer thing. And ideas back then for how to have a resilient network that could survive a nuclear war. There's hundreds of advances in hardware and software that are as important as Tim Berners-Lee and his WWW. He just was at the right place at the right time. That was literally something my dad could have done and he could have done it better. I mean frick, I could do it myself if you gave me a little time. This did not require any great skill or insight. There are many legit geniuses involved in inventing the internet, people who came up with ideas the rest of us never could, but he was not one of them.
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Actually, they did rely a lot on their predecessors' aeronautical research. And they never could have made a plane without the recently-invented internal combustion engine...
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Well if you really aren't trolling me and need me to disprove your point: The internet began with the ARPAnet program begun by the US DoD in 1966. Tim Berners-Lee created the HTTP protocol and dumbed down SGML into HTML about 30 years later. This was the beginning of the WWW.
yes so he created the internet. ARPA net is not the internet. It's like calling a LAN network the internet. ARPAnet is considered the forerunner of the internet.
Correction, expanding west. The UK started colonizing in the 16th century. They peaked in 1922 400-500 years later. At current rates of western expansion since the 1920s, the entire world will be a western union in 400-500 years easily.
The Catholic church flirted with Fascism for years, but Hitler did the 150IQ move of signing a concord with the Catholic Church and then breaking it immediately after.
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There were also a conspiracy within the Catholic Church from Nazi sympathizers to help Nazis flee from the Nuremberg Trials and give them fake documents and shelter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Hudal
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Catholics made up a lot of resistance to Nazis and several clergy died in concentration camps:
One was St. Maximilian Kolbe
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Surprise there hasn't been a movie about this
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1499680/
Factcheck: This claim is currently being debunked.
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I should have been more specific and said hollywood, like some bullshit remix like lincoln vs zombies, now pope vs nazis.
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Who typed this out and why are they still alive?
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This was top of Recommend Videos
What did Youtube mean by this?
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Algorithm knows it'll get a rage watch
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You know I was reading a bunch of history articles right now and I realized, the US invented nukes, the US won ww2, then the US won the space race, then the US helped set up the post ww2 rules based order, then they invented the microchip, then the US helped set up international organizations like the world trade organization, after this they invented the smartphone, after that they invented CRISPR, after that they invented AI, after that they are currently working on humanoid robots.
Basically the US has been stacking wins decade on decade and that is why they are the most powerful country in the world, and every 20 to 30 years one country surpasses them in one single field and everybody thinks the US led world order is ending.
It's kinda crazy how much of the modern world is just the American inventions world.
It's even crazier that in the 20th century multiple major inventions were still being created by non-Americans.
Funnily enough the British invented the internet.
If you look at the 21st century inventions list though, the list is now far heavier with American inventors than the previous century, suggesting that the US has actually advanced a whole lot further up in the tech and creation department in comparison to the previous century, leaving only nation states like South Korea and Japan at best to provide any additional relevant technologies.
I honestly think there will come a point in time where only the US will be inventing major stuff and all the other nation states will just by the research supply chain that flows up towards the US for final product creation.
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This is a bad take. A very bad take. Your historical illiteracy makes me shudder. I wouldn't flaunt your ignorance by saying that anyone other than America invented the Internet.
Seriously, the roots of it are in a plan in the early 1960s (back when systems engineering chads were in power) for how America should have a strategy for the whole computer thing. And ideas back then for how to have a resilient network that could survive a nuclear war. There's hundreds of advances in hardware and software that are as important as Tim Berners-Lee and his WWW. He just was at the right place at the right time. That was literally something my dad could have done and he could have done it better. I mean frick, I could do it myself if you gave me a little time. This did not require any great skill or insight. There are many legit geniuses involved in inventing the internet, people who came up with ideas the rest of us never could, but he was not one of them.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee
Educate yourself sweaty.
So he did invent the internet by being at the right place at the right time.
Nuh uh Einstein didn't discover general relativity, my dad could have done it better.
This is peak Elon Musk doesn't matter because the 1000 engineers make everything.
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Modems getting faster and cheaper in the 1980s-1990s did 1000 times more for the internet than he did.
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Wright brothers did not invent the airplane because other people made them 1,000 times better down the line.
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Actually, they did rely a lot on their predecessors' aeronautical research. And they never could have made a plane without the recently-invented internal combustion engine...
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Everything you said adds additional context without disproving my point.
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The problem is you are making a very obvious point and not giving us a chance to feel smart by arguing with you.
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lmao @Redactor0
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Well if you really aren't trolling me and need me to disprove your point: The internet began with the ARPAnet program begun by the US DoD in 1966. Tim Berners-Lee created the HTTP protocol and dumbed down SGML into HTML about 30 years later. This was the beginning of the WWW.
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yes so he created the internet. ARPA net is not the internet. It's like calling a LAN network the internet. ARPAnet is considered the forerunner of the internet.
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!burgers !americas THE fricking NEW WORLD IN NEW WORLD ORDER IS fricking JUST THE fricking WESTERN HEMISPHERE GOD BLESS
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Correction, expanding west. The UK started colonizing in the 16th century. They peaked in 1922 400-500 years later. At current rates of western expansion since the 1920s, the entire world will be a western union in 400-500 years easily.
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BIPOC what
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Timothy Berners Lee invented the internet. He was British.
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!catholics !christians
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no i wasnt born yet
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Fricking zoomers
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No, I wasnt alive back then
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skill issue
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Aevânio, a capivara gaúcha !macacos
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Pius XII also excommunicated all the communists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_against_Communism
He was an all around based pope...
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What did they mean by this?
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The gommunists are allowed back in the church...
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The Popes post-Vatican II just don't hit the same anymore
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1978 John Paul II elected Pope
1979 John Paul II pilgrimage to Poland
1980 Solidarity is formed
1991 Fall of USSR
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Remember that time u gave me a cute lil updoot?
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ye
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dasha in the new no cap on god
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wait rly, b-word?
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i think so but it might have been another strangely attractive, skinny b-word
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The Catholic church flirted with Fascism for years, but Hitler did the 150IQ move of signing a concord with the Catholic Church and then breaking it immediately after.
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LITERALLY EVERYBODY IN THE fricking 1940s TRIED TO ASSASSINATE HITLER
IT'S NOT THAT BIG A fricking DEAL, JAN
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I had a dream where Ross Perot tried to kill Hitler. It didn't work out
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Who does not know that the first law of historical writing is the truth.
-- Cicero
Snapshots:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_XII_and_the_German_resistance:
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