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This guy leaves out or distorts quite a few things:
There was a tacit agreement negotiated between Israel and Syria brokered by the USA that the Syrians could put SAMs in the Bekaa to prevent any more Israeli adventures breaking the treaty like when they shot down the helicopters over Zahle, but the Syrians had to put them out in the open and not move them around and camouflage them.
Israel and Syria had a lot of these arrangements because they both hated the Palestinians more. The Israelis claimed that they were just going into south Lebanon to drive out the Palestinians like in 1978. When it turned out they were actually doing a full-scale invasion this surprised a lot of people, including the Syrians and the Israeli soldiers on the ground who had been lied to too.
The Israelis want to prove that they're against the "newest and most sophisticated missiles".
The Syrians were using the same stuff they had a decade earlier, the Israelis had the best that America could offer.
He's constantly using his female intuition to guess what Syrian pilots were feeling but apparently hasn't used any Syrian sources.
He says that this "demonstrated" that a "modern air force" didn't need to worry about SAMs anymore. Bullshit. The US had to restrict operations over Baghdad in Desert Storm because it was too well-defended.
Actual not r-slurred take on this:
This is the first time in history that air combat was ever this one-sided. You look at WW2, even guys in fricking biplanes could shoot down the enemy with some luck.
I saw an interview with a Syrian fighter pilot, I believe it was on that documentary about the war in Lebanon. He said the jamming was so bad that his radar display was almost all white. Their only hope was to get close enough to "burn through", where you're close enough to the target that the return from your radar bouncing off the enemy is stronger than the jamming signal.
When they got that close they ran into the AIM-9L Sidewinder. Early versions of the Sidewinder were very primitive, just going after what the hottest thing it saw was. So if you got behind the enemy plane and launched it then hopefully it would see his exhaust and fly right up his engine. But it could easily be led astray by something like the sun. The AIM-9L was vastly improved. It was "all-aspect", you could shoot at the enemy from any direction. So if he's going straight at you can shoot it at him head-on.
In this war the Syrians had the problem that they were fighting with weapons that were 10 years out of date. The Soviets had stopped sending them new weapons as they were pissed that they hadn't been asked for permission before the 1973 war and even more pissed that Syria had been flirting with the US in the mid-1970s, trying to make a deal and throw Egypt under the bus. You see this in things like the US approving of the Syrian intervention in Lebanon. (It turned out that Egypt threw the Syrians under the bus instead.) Meanwhile the Israelis had close cooperation with the US military and contractors.
After this war the Soviets were shocked into reequipping the Syrians with more modern weapons. By this point the American stuff was so much better that the Israelis would have still had a big advantage, but maybe not quite this extreme. And the Israeli Air Force has always been really good. Not so much better than Arabs as they claim (they're especially prone to claiming all their losses are from SAMs not air-to-air) but they've always been quite a bit better.
And before we clench up our legs to the point of injury and blow out our aortas jerking off over this, it's worth remembering who actually won this war in the end.
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