So... In the Pale Moonlight is probably the best episode of DS9. There may be others which are technically better TV but Moonlight is the best DS9 episode because it encapsulates everything which made DS9 special and different in Star Trek: The moral grayness, the sensation of people in over their heads, the high stakes and Garak.
Garak is the best thing that ever happened in Star Trek and Andy 'he did feel lucky punk' Robinson was remarkable in the role. Bravo that man- Bravo.
In the Pale Moonlight is set during the first year of the Dominion War (or season 6). It took DS9 five years to finally give us the massive space war (the antagonists weren't even introduced until the end of season 2). Part of this is because DS9, unlike Babylon 5, wasn't planned out. Another part tho, is that DS9 earned it's big space war.
The war is going badly for the Federation- heck the very first encounter with the Dominion cost Starfleet the USS Oydessy...
That's a Galaxy Class cruiser getting kamakazied there and the captain and crew did nothing wrong. The implication is that if it had been the Enterprise, things would have gone the same way.
The Federation and Klingons are losing the war and only an Alpha Quadrant Big 3 Alliance will tip the scales. That means bringing the isolationist Romulans aboard.
The Romulans are an militarist offshoot race of the Vulcans who were intended to be the OG Star Trek's main villians because someone figured they could just re-use the Spock ears. Unfortunately, those ears needed to be modelled to the actor's ears before the day of shooting and SAG rules stated that the make-up call counted as a full day's work. Therefore the Klingons were invented because Fu-Manchu mustaches and brown face paint ("Mexican Bandit No. 2") was all it took to make an OG Klingon (this comes from Stephen Whitfield's "The Making of Star Trek").
Sisko realises he can't rely on the neighbourly feelings of the Romans-in-Space so he asks Garak to find evidence that the Dominion are planning an invasion of the Romulan Star Empire.
Garak, however , doubts such evidence exists. Instead he has another suggestion...
Garak knows a guy who can help but the guy just stabbed Quark in his bar, meaning Sisko must continue his descent into darkness...
(That's not really Bashir btw- you may recall this from an earlier installment of Best of Starshit:
https://rdrama.net/h/kino/post/226890/the-best-of-starshit-garak-talks
So that's a changeling who apparently just lets all this shit happen- massive plot hole but... meh)
So the evidence is faked and all that's required is to make sure that Mr. Stabby-Stabby gets paid off...
So now it's time to say hi to the Romulans. The Roms have a history of cool rides but Senator Vreenak's stealth ship takes the cake. This thing is a fricking cool whip...
Obviously we all know what happens next: Vreenak spots the forgery and a meme is born...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-bLtVVfaQd0&list=PLxidGOcLnJh21CFCPcZ-iKDcAuAcuXeg8
Paramount have blocked this video in HK but maybe you'll have more luck.
Vreenak heads back to Romulus to tell all the other Pointy-Ears about the Federation's duplicity (and probably be quietly impressed tbh) but... remember Garak saying he was going to get a closer look at the Romulan ship?
Which just leaves Sisko to wrestle with his conscious...
The general consensus is that Picard would have never have gotten involved in any of this. Picard, however would probably have gone screaming after Q to send the nasty Dominion away. Sisko didn't have that option...
The one time they put Q in DS9 there was a resounding feeling that it was a mistake and that he didn't fit. That or he couldn't cope with an empowered gentleman of color. Fricking Extra-Dimensional-Supremacist.
Check out my other Starshit Effortposts:
https://rdrama.net/h/kino/post/226933/best-of-starshit-there-are-four
https://rdrama.net/h/kino/post/227166/best-of-starshit-the-measure-of
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I like it when the spaceships go fast
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The lasers are the cool part
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So he fabricated evidence to lure billions of people into his war, and murdered that dude and his entourage to cover it up, and he's STILL the good guy of the show!
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Yes, and he's the best captain
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DS9 war arc is peak star kino.
The Section 31 episodes were great. If anything they elevated Bashir's character since I didn't usually find him interesting but liked him when he was investigating Section 31 and talking to their agent.
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Everybody here is fart huffing about Babylol 5. I simple can't stand the x24 over stupid shit. Is DS9 much better in that regard? I recently started to watch Star Trek a bit and actually like it.
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DS9 has people in it who say things which vaguely sound like things real people would say. This makes it better written than Babylon 5.
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Recently? What the frick is wrong with you?
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When I was young I watched on of the weird episode by accident and always thought star trek is for weirdo r-slurs(it is!). A couple years ago I saw the original one with Kirk and was like LMAO, what a space Chad. And now it's funny to see the dynamics of spok and him
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Keyed spirk enjoyer
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He's the ultimate chad, flying around space banging hot chicks and hanging out with his vulcan bro.
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Dunno I never watched that
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Section 31 is juvenile boomer nonsense about "maybe America is actually the bad guys " and totally antithetical to everything Star Trek is about.
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DS9 as a whole seems pretty antithetical to Rodenberry's vision. Personally I like the political worldbuilding even at the expense of Rodenberry's utopia
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MK Ultra was a real thing the US did btw.
Also the federation being a perfect utopia is boring imo. Can't have a story without conflict. Them continuously trying to be a utopia is interesting tho
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The part of it that actually really happened was pretty fricking benign and not controversial. Finding out if the commies could hypnotize people and stuff. Having actually read the documents, it was really focused on finding a way to tell if a Soviet defector was real or lying.
You're confusing Roddenberry's strange rules in season 1-2 of TNG about the crew not having interpersonal conflicts with the basic premise of the Federation being the good guys. TOS had plenty of conflict even though the Federation were the good guys.
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I think only ever having external threats isn't realistic or fun imo. I liked learning about the internal strife and political maneuvering the Federation had too. I also don't think Star Trek HAS to be any one way or be about any one thing. DS9 had a good plot and good acting so it is good trek to me. Just my opinion though
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This was a pretty epic moment. I'd say Garak is one of the best characters ever on tv both writing and acting. Him telling the human to grow up and start being a fricking adult and accept that he wanted this to happen was uplifting.
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How is life in hk
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I have massive constipation. Opposite of everyone else in the tropics.
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Tng was great, but I thought ds9 was the best. Could've used less Vic Fontaine episodes tho
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Well that was self indulgent bullshit and I actually appreciated the Kang Sisko moment when he says "wait a minute, black people in wiseguy casinos had to come in thru the side entrance- frick this guy."
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Yeah Ira Stephen Behr was good but needed to be kept on a short leash.
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Wow that seems pretty dramatic
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