!leafs what the frick are these people even striking for? They get paid obscene amounts, do almost no work and work in stores so over sized they the isles are double spaced.
I mean, wouldn't all the private rural stores with LCBO licenses still work; they aren't unionized employees.
Yup. And thanks to Ford (PBUH) general private sales are coming soon!
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don't you know it's the canadian way to do anything to keep monopolies.
It's not about a monopoly it's about preserving well paid jobs, which are becoming increasingly hard to find
!leafs FRICK THIS NEIGHBOR. Those "well paying jobs" come at the expense of the tax payer and everyman. Canadian wine costs more in the LCBO than it does in Japan! It's a grift and I don't give a single shit about the worthless cute twinks that work there.
And 2.5 billion in profit to fund our social services saving us $$$. Instead, people want to throw it away to corporations.
YUp. Frick our social services, if they need money they can trim some fricking fat. !chuds I pray I live to see the day where the government renigs on all the variouos pensions it loves to hand
Yep. Just more privitization
Which is good for the consumer as it means more choice and better pricing
This logic never makes any sense to me. Preserving jobs for some at an expense to everyone else often makes society worse, not better.
The way to see this is just invert it -- why not add a "paint dry watcher" job where people just get paid $70/hr to stand around to watch paint dry. That job will be well paid... but by adding no social value it's just a tax on everyone else, and will be a net drain on society by diverting potentially productive workers to do something useless.
Any job that needs to be artifically protected might not be as "purely useless" as watching paint dry, but there will still be a partial uselessness that would have been eliminated by a free market. Fighting to preserve these fractions of uselessness is fighting to make people worse off on the whole.
That's a very good point, now lets see how redditors make it about ACAB
We have that already for cops guarding holes in the road whenever pipes need to be replaced. Except it's over $100/hr.
God forbid someone steal the hole and put it in their driveway.
More like "God forbid some shitskin who bought his G hit it, lose control and crash."
This is what brought private stores to Alberta decades ago. Doug doesn't have to negotiate, he can just let grocers sell booze.
Of course, that won't actually make it any cheaper. What makes booze so fricking expensive here isn't the LCBO nor its union, it's government-mandated mandatory minimum prices and assblastingly expensive sin taxes. Anywhere from 40-70% of the price of alcohol is tax in this province. Until and unless that, and the insanely-high mandatory minimums, are addressed, letting Loblaws sell No Name Vodka won't lead to that vodka costing less than $28.95.
Oh don't worry day 1 stores will be reporting "thefts" and then just selling the booze 50% out the back. Injuns do it all the time but with stuff their children liberated from the lcbo
Frick off with your "dry summer" bullshit. We have options and you know it. Tons and tons of distilleries, wineries and craft brewers around, and that's not even mentioning the Beer Store
I know what I'll be doing. In fact I'm doing a cleaning run right now!
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I guarantee whatever profits made by the LCBO go only to funding LGBT canoe building clubs anyways it ain't being used for practical stuff like healthcare that's for sure.
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My brother in christ, what social services?
Welfare? Gibs for refugees? Parliamentary pensions?
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Canada does have a lot of welfare. One of my brothers exes makes 30,000 a year off welfare bucks for her kids, all of which she has dumped off with various family members years ago
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Fun fact, Pennsylvania also has a wine and spirits almost-monopoly. On paper, it's even illegal to bring alcohol you purchased from other states!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Liquor_Control_Board
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Woah does this mean booze might stop being r-slurredly expensive up there? stg last time I visited it was like 3x the cost as here in the US for the same mass-produced products.
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if its anything like 'private' weed shops then no
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why are leafs so boozephobic
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Booze tax, carbon tax, tax tax, our current government loves taxes.
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Our corporate tax/capital gains rate was the only thing that we had over America and Trudeau of course announced thats next
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God I hope this accelerates the demise of LCBO
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I never heard of this LCBO why is it relevant to my life
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Are you not a leaf?
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Are you TRYING to upset me? God was more merciful than that.
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Well first you can look at the reporting in those mainstream media articles. As the art of war dictates, "know thy enemy", once your finding actual studies, then trace back the studies that they reference. Look at the bios of the authors, see if the scientific community has upheld their research with peer reviewed studies from people that stand to gain nothing from the outcome of the peer reviews.
Now that you're looking at actual scientific studies, do your best to understand what is the question and answer each study is trying to solve. Confirm that by reviewing the other peer reviewed studies to see if everything matches up.
During these long and tedious tasks, you will probably want to stop, cause your brain with hurt and you'll be bogged down by information overload. This is natural, take a break and consolidate your thoughts, are what these authors claiming accurate? Are they making assumptions without supporting evidence? And supporting evidence needs to be confirming on its own. As in you can't make assumptions every confirming step.
Once you feel like you have the mental acuity to continue, press on. It's gonna be more of a slog, because let's face it, science papers are written for scientists and not us lay-men. But press on. You are not a sheep and thus you need to be able to confirm your own thoughts about the topic to not be lead astray. You'll probably feel extremely bored because none of this information generates emotion.
Once you've done all that, do the same thing for the other side. Find all the personal held beliefs you have about any topic. Watch the YouTube videos, read the other studies done. This part will be far easier, you'll probably notice that you are more engaged, your emotions will be higher, and you'll be nodding along to all of this stuff.
As a fun side test, try and film yourself watching these videos. For review later. If you're an avg person you'll see that you have all the signs of someone being sold something, obviously you'll need to step away before you watch the video of yourself, coming at it with a clear mind right?
Anywho, that's the beginning. And frankly I doubt you'll take this step because it is difficult. The hardest thing we can ever do is examine our deeply held beliefs. And to do it without the influence of others.
To be clear, I'm not doubting your ability to grow or examine yourself as a free and critical thinker, rather I doubt you will put in the effort. I refused to do it for about 15 years. Only when I unplugged from the influences that I thought were legitimate that I started to realize that both sides are feeding you trash. It is our responsibility to sort through it and make sense of this world.
If you have made it this far, Bravo, I hope you try some of this for yourself. In your own way. So that you won't think I'm trying to influence you any more than to make you question your deepest held beliefs.
I'll leave you with my favorite Aristotle quote:
"It is the mark of an educated mind, to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"
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