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Stoicpeace He/Him KWAB  1yr ago (image post) 449 thread views #151053

I think all the sci-fi books nerds obsess over (like Starship troopers, Dune, etc...) are boring. It's much better to just read their plot synopsis on wikipedia and the lore shit on wiki articles:marsey57:

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this is extremely neurodivergent OP. i bet you like the SCP foundation.

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:marseyno:. I think I've liked a handful of those articles at best. Probably because it's made by neurodivergents who are less talented than 4Chan shitposters.

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i mean it's basically a bunch of wiki summaries written by neurodivergents, lol

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Yes, but it should at least be about something interesting. Sci-fi authors at least come up with interesting speculative ideas, can't say the same for these guys. The newer ones have also become a bit too elaborate for their own good and they also require you to read a dozen other shit in order to understand the one you're reading:marseyshrug:. Creepypastas are good if they short and simple.

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:marseyrage: my coworker told me this exact opinion once. he said watching a youtube plot synopsis was the same as reading Dune. i am being gangstalked by rdrama.net :marseyschizotwitch:

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There is a reason those movie in 5 mins channels are so popular. You should go watch Dune in 5mins

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i only watch 2 1/2 hour long youtube videos of neurodivergents dissecting 300 words of obscure lore from auxiliary texts.

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i only watch paw patrol: the movie. :marseysmoothbrain:

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The admins know everyone's personal address and they send each of our personal info to a random dramatard who can do anything with the info.

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Why read a work of art that someone poured his soul into, when you can listen to Alt-Shift-X read a wiki article in an neurodivergent monotone? I got places to be.

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world champion griftmaxxing. if average youtube ad revenue holds true for him then he made ~5k per HotD-episode-recap video :marseydepressed:

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:chudtantrum::!chudtantrum::chudtantrum:

Noooo u cant just ignore the genre that consistently has authors outed as libertarians noooo ur missing out on the deep nuanced takes like government bad and what if computer bad??

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>Noooo u cant just ignore the genre that consistently has authors outed as paedophiles

Isn't that every genre though?

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...yeah

But the SF association or whatever it's called routinely kept known pedos on board so its more fun to dunk on scifi

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Too hot a take for me but Arthur C. Clarke did bugger boy bussy in Burma.

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Rendezvous with Ramming lil boys by Arthur "the c is for chomo" Clarke

The entire sci fi writers association is basically pedos, its incredibly unfortunate

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But muh world building :soycry: muh gazillion different alien species and cultures:chudtantrum:. That's nice sweaty but thankfully your fellow neurodivergents have made wiki articles about each and everyone and I'll just read the summary there:marseyembrace:.

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Wait really?

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The SFWA seems to be pedos all the way down

https://new.onaforums.net/threads/the-science-fiction-fantasy-writers-of-america-sfwa-libertarian-defense-compendium.3104/

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I liked the Foundation books by Asimov :marseynerd2: I haven't read any sci-fi in forever though, I stopped caring about it after high school for some reason.

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I stopped for ages and got back into it after reading Slaughterhouse 5. Lots of the prose is dire but each book has at least one neat idea.

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Very dry prose for the most part. I've never read Vonnegut other than Harrison Bergeron but maybe I should look more into him, I get what OP means about just reading the synopsis since like you said they usually have a neat idea in them but may not be worth reading the full book. Maybe short stories are the better format to suit the autism of the average sci-fi writer.

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Def. Short stories are the best part of the genre.

God Bless You Mr. Rosewater and Slaughterhouse 5 are very good, he's a fantastic writer.

Sheckley is worth reading, but only 1 book. Pick one.

Rendezvous with Rama is probably the best golden age sci fi novel imo.

Asimov's short stories are great.

The sprawl trilogy and Burning Chrome are my favs, tho. Gibson used to be so good

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:ma#rseynotes: thanks for the recs

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I’ve never been big on books that are 90% world building which happens to be most scifi books. I’d prefer the magic or technology to be a way to have the characters react or reflect.

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I’ve never been big on books that are 90% world building which happens to be most scifi books

I think a lot of sci-fi books would be better off if the authors considered world building to be something that's supposed to supplement story and themes instead of taking up bulk of the focus.

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>world building to be something that's supposed to supplement story and themes instead of taking up bulk of the focus.

Lord of the Ring fans BTFO. It would easily be half as many pages.

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You are correct. I want to write a sci-fi book about religion (Jesus has appeared on every alien planet) but I plan to spend exactly 0% of it world building and instead talking about the implications.

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I like weird religious stories, but it's a tricky niche because Christoids rarely want to be challenged, and atheists can't look past the sky daddy representation

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Hope I get a feee copy :marseyjam:

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I love Dune. They get weirder as the series goes on though. (Still love them)

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Starship Troopers is also a good but dumb but also satirical movie.

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最好不给自己挑战，反就范多动症。

:#marseygigaretard:

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I found Dune pretty dull. The author goes out of his way to make all the action happen off-page; giant battles take place with no POV whatsoever, and Paul's entire insurgency against the Harkonnens is covered in a time skip. It's like a Shakespeare play where Hamlet fights pirates and gets his friends killed when you're not looking, except Shakespeare was limited by the actual stage, and was a good writer.

Dune does have interesting lore, though, with stuff like the Butlerian Jihad, hyper advanced mental training, millennia-long plans by the gussy Illuminati, etc.

So in other words, this but unironically.

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The narration was interesting, being able to see what went on in particular character's heads, and so was the time streams idea, it really is more space fantasy than anything

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I liked the use of omniscient narration. Something like the rhetorical dance between Jessica and Yueh is pretty unique and interesting. But I got tired of everyone being some flavor of hyper-disciplined genius schemer. It could have benefited from the POVs of a couple ordinary soldiers, Fremen, etc. who have to live in this world created by 11-dimensional mental chessmasters.

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bro same

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Starship Troopers isn't even that long.

:#marseydeadinside2:

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