House of Leaves tells the story of a man who discovers an infinite spooky space within his home, which is depicted in a found footage movie that doesn't exist, which is described in a faux-academic book with incredibly bizarre formatting, which was edited, and compiled by a mentally ill s*x-haver who tells dubiously-connected stories in multi-page footnotes as his mental condition deteriorates.
I think this book was a bit too pleased with itself, and I didn't really find it scary. I did fall off reading a couple times, so I might have got a better experience reading it in one go. But every time I turned the page and saw a giant wall of text from one of Johnny's rambling schizo stories it felt like a natural place to take a break. Maybe I got filtered, but I took much more interest in the Navidson film and the imaginatively typeset criticism around it than in the bloated "aaaarrrrgggghhh I'm going insaaaaaaaaaaaaaane" bits (although the letters from Johnny's mother were interesting).
Despite my underwhelmed reaction, this is the only novel I've ever seen to treat its book as a physical object and work of art, instead of a neutral way to store a novel (which could also be done in a PDF, epub, audio file, oral tradition, etc). So much of this novel's character is in typesetting, rotating pages, the tactile experience of flipping back and forth, largely blank or wildly busy pages, etc etc. This would make reading it on an electronic device a decidedly deficient experience, and making it a linear audiobook actively impossible. We often think about what books are good at vs. what films are good at, etc. but this is the rare non-graphic novel to ask what the book as a physical object is good at. Not only do I like reading, I like books, and this is a fun (if exaggerated) exploration of what they can do.
!bookworms have you read this? What did you think?
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Dylsexia might be real but may as well not exist because a) severe dyslexia is extremely comorbid with other learning disabilities, and if someone with down's sydnrome or whatever isn't able to read it's probably just the down's syndrome, and b) the behavior of people with mild dyslexia and no other learning disabilties is basically the same as people who are just bad at reading, and the standard medical advice for them is just to read more (which is the exact same advice given to people who are just bad at reading).
I know this post didn't reference dyslexia in particular, I just felt like saying this because I hate the disabled
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I know someone who claims she can't read actual books due to a murky combination of ADHD/ligma/zoomer foiditis. Not only is she going for a degree in education, but she's getting good grades. We're doomed.
I had no idea this was a trend until recently, but now I see it everywhere. It feels like an even worse extension of the "hurr I'm just not good at math" crowd. People won't put in work to be good at something, they just assume everyone who is good has some special talent.
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Or benefits from some nebulous privilege
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See also: aphantasia, where so many people were claiming they couldn't visualise stuff, the meta switched to boasting about how you could visualise stuff. Soon people will be humblebragging that yeah, they can sit down and read a book.
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a lot of aphantasia neighbors see the "test" with visualizing an apple and close their eyes REALLY hard and expect to see a 4k screen appear as light patterns sent down their occular nerves and into their brains
"Oh darn im not seeing real image rn, not even a black and white one... i have aphantasia!?? WTF AM I MISSING OUT ON?"
obviously, your imagination conceptualizes images, it's not a vivid hallucination
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One of my friends actually has aphantasia. He can't do things like navigate in his bedroom in the dark or draw a rough diagram of it because he's completely unable to visualize anything
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Imagine being friends with an r-slur
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If you can't visualize a 4k apple I feel bad for you
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I tyepd this comment all on my own!
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Only person I know who claims to have Aphantasia also claims to have read and loved everything Tolkien has ever written. Laziest fake excuse for not reading books.
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My neurodivergent brother says this and im like how are you just not imagining colors? Of course i cant see shit really its all in my head
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Could've just guessed she's r-slurred based on that alone
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For most former mean girls, it's teacher or nursing.
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It's true though? Talent in math definitely does exist and some people just pick it up more easily than others.
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Sure but most people can understand math with enough practice up to algebra they just need more practice not excuses
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I have attention problems but between watching a movie, reading a book and listening to an audiobook, I find reading to be much easier since it's less passive. Listening is particularly hard unless I'm driving and even then, I zone out after a while. In fact, the one activity I do the most is reading.
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Have you ever met a firefighter? Every last one of them has dyslexia.
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New stereotype dropped.
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I have mild dyslexia and basically did the read more thing. Worked pretty well (after a while it just kind of clicked) but I still really struggle telling words like does and dose apart. I can also write backwards, upside-down, write with both hands... Like, if I have a headache, I'll start writing backwards and not realize it.
I hate me too!
We should be friends!
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Ok!
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Wait, so can you read that infamous typoglycemia example:
"Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe."
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Read this as 'prominent', lol... but pretty much, yeah.
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According to Hollywood, this totally should have stumped you. Guess I'll continue to be forever puzzled at how the dyslexic mind works.
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I do read by recognizing the shape of words and could never really understand sounding words out... I'd be lost without spell check.
I'm also not normal
It could totally just be two different things.
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I knew a mechanical engineer in college. who was very bright but had the worst case of dyslexia I've ever seen (I'm not counting the generally r-slurred here.)
He could read but it was usually a bit jumbled. We used to get him drunk and make him read picture books out loud at parties.
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I used to spend a lot of time in the special ed system (sperg who can't write properly) so I knew all the dyslexic kids, and with one or two exceptions they were all just thick
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You liked working with "thick" kids, eh?
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Thick as in r-slurred, although my high school gf was thiccccccc
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I, too, despise the dyslexic.
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this was exactly my experience, I was like shut the FRICK UP Johnny
that said the part where he went back to his old house was kind of neat imo
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I feel like that's intentional by the author and absolutely my reaction, too. You're finally getting somewhere in the Navidson bits and then there's a fricking huge wall of Johnny trying to frick a stripper, but it disjoints and complicates the experience of reading the book. I don't think you'd end up with House of Leaves if you removed the Johnny bits. You'd maybe split it and get a good haunted house story and a good schizo story, but you wouldn't have House of Leaves.
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I liked the navidson accord but jhonny really felt like a giant filter to annoy literally everyone who isnt a junkie
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Leaves of Grass > House of Leaves
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House of cards family guy peter griffin 2021 funny ممتع جدا 😂
!familyman
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Sounds super gay.
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That sounds gayer than having s*x with a man but kinda nice
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d'aww, that's actually really sweet in the stupid young couple sense.
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I wouldn't call it high art but it was fun and I enjoyed it as a teenager and when I re-read it. I agree it's not "scary" but who honestly is scared of books or movies? They aren't real lmao.
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mfw there's a jumpscare in the book im reading
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Books can definitely create a sense of unease, although it's pretty hard to jumpscare someone with a book.
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Danielewski should have made it into a pop-up book with a big minotaur that jumps out at you. His experiments with ergodic literature are interesting, but it's this lack of flourish that separates him from the true greats.
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When I was little (yesterday) I used to have to put my books in the hallway because I'd freak myself out
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Man some of those old Stephen King short stories will keep you awake at night. There is some scary shit in there.
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Luv' House of Leaves
'Ate redditors
Simple as
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Was a photographer but took this picture and then went into a deep depression. Also footnotes and a song by Poe with a whole boring second narrative that was done better in The Third Policeman.
EDIT— jokes aside, this:
Is a really fricking good point.
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wow this brings me back; house of leaves was the pseud tome of the early-mid 00's. I remember young me trying to talk about it with people who "loved it" only to find out that they didn't actually read it. Glad it withstood the test of time I guess
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House of Leaves' formatting was very obviously ripped off from the Talmud. Take a look.
Which makes these idiots' inability to read the darn thing even funnier. A bunch of ancient desert dwellers managed just fine, but the average Redditor is at a complete loss.
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I did read it all in one go, over the course of a week or two. Lots of tub reading. I found myself fed up with the Johnny Truant narrated bits as well,until about 2/3rds of the way through when he started traveling around more and had fully fallen off the deep end. And you realize he's a pretty unreliable narrator. I was purely in it for more info about the House itself and the Navidson record. I did not find it particularly scary, but those explorations were quite unsettling. I can picture 3D spaces and dimensions mentally quite easily so maybe that helped add to my unease with that place.
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Wow, you must be a JP fan.
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I read that book in high school as part of some cringey psuedo intellectual phase I was going through. I'm pretty sure that is the case for most people who talk about that book.
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I found it very enjoyable, though like everyone else, I found the Johnny bits markedly less fun. Anyone else listen to Poe's semi-companion album to the book? Maybe that's what you could use as a House of Leaves audiobook
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House of Leaves is choose your own adventure for college sophomores.
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Oh hey I just read a shitty .pdf text-recognition scan that lost the text colorization and vertical text formatting, proving your point.
Without getting to experience the proper format, my first impression was of a postmodern lampoon of postmodern navel-gazing itself, taking what would become the trappings of stereotypical creepypasta ("I'm going le crazy OR AM I?", chronic refusal of explanation, the weird lurking within the mundane) and complicating it so thoroughly with "analysis" that it seems as if the significance of the described events are reduced rather than elucidated thereby.
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So true! This is just like the Wayside School books when a character was hanging upside down and they printed his dialogue upside down.
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So I take it you haven't tried reading Infinite Jest yet
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I read this book in like the 5th grade I thought it was frickin sweet
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Hi all, I've been searching the internets high and low for an audio recording of House of Leaves- I've wanted to read it forever but as a law student it's hard to find time for reading for enjoyment, but have plenty of time to listen to books on my commute to and from school.:
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Hello, I discovered house of leaves a year or so ago so I went ahead a got the book. I read a couple of pages of it and couldn't really retain any information. I don't know if it's because I have adhd or something else, but it's like that with most everything I read. I went and told my mom to return the book after I read the same page over and over again without understanding what it meant. Recently, I saw night mind's video pop up in my feed again and decided to try to read the book again. This time, I read along with an audio book that I found on yt. The thing is, it stopped after the introduction. I went ahead and read the first 5 pages of the navidson record but didn't really understand what it was saying. Does anyone know if there's any audiobook of this online? I'd be willing to pay for it. Thank you.:
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