I hate amateur literary critics so much it's unreal

BTW guys did you know that Starship Troopers was a very subtle and ingenious deconstruction of fascism? I bet you didn't, it's so subtle only a real scholar could pick up on it (you should watch my 12 hour video essay to fully grasp it). The author was actually laughing at the likes of you! :soyjakanimeglasses:

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People believe that because that cute twink Paul Verhoeven made the movie that way as he refused to even read the source material saying it was stupid, then you'll see redditors claiming the film is better :marseybigbrain:. Speaking of which, I doubt Starship Troopers will ever get a faithful adaptation due to hollywood wingcuckery.

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>making a movie based on a book you haven't even read

Uhhh based alert?

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It is really quite a bad book. I asked Ed Neumeier to tell me the story because I just couldn't read the thing. It's a very right-wing book," Verhoeven said. :marseysoylentgrin:

He could have been based had he said he didn't read because it was nerd shit, instead he came up with this :marseysoypoint:

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>Wahhh he made fun of rightoids :soycry: :marseywingcuck: :chudtantrum:

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He didnt even make fun or mock them. Thats the nice part of movie. Its played 100% stright. Either you see society decpited in movie as horible or based.

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It's one of my favorite movies but all the characters were changed to be white and blonde, and the secret service literally dress up like Waffen-SS.

He did not

>play it straight

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all the characters were changed to be white and blonde, and the secret service literally dress up like Waffen-SS.

I thought that'd be an improvement by your !chuds standards.

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Only the men were in nazi uniforms.

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Tell me how he didnt play it straight?

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I just did. :marseyraging:

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I dont get what you mean.

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Agreed! But I'm biased since I love the Starship Troopers movie. I tried but couldn't get into the book.

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Literally :marseyme: reading his analysis. He did a heckin race swap changing the main character who was a proud POC :soycry:

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He thought it was a heckin evil right-wing dog whistle so he changed a bunch of the characters to be more "fascistic"

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Good

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Best you can get is a Daily Wire adaptation that misses the point but by a lesser margin.

And is shit.

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I'm sold.

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I'm sorry, have you, @neoconshill, ever made a movie?

Do YOU know how hard it is to make a movie?

I don't think YOU of all people should be criticizing other people's movies...

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The CGI Cartoon was pretty good. Definitely not a pure adaptation, but way fricking better than Verhoven.

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What I hate is when people go DeAtH oF tHe AuthOR and insist a book means whatever they think it means.

It's one thing to say, “I think this about the book”

It's more arrogant and r-slurred to say, “The book is actually about this. So says I. No I don't care that the actual author disagrees completely and entirely.”

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While death of the author is abused, especially by wingucucks, It is very much real. Author's intentions are secondary to the story he has written.

If J.K. Rowling was claiming that Harry Potter is about killing FtM trains, it wouldn't suddently make it true.

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Or how Atwood went along with "akshually Gilead is Trump's America lmao" and kept real quiet about Iran

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Handmaiden is about Islam :marseyisis: and Atwood retconned her beliefs so that it was about uh... christo fascists

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Get that bag, queen. :taycrown:

Is the Handmaid's Tale sequel any good?

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Do you like fetish novels?

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kinda yea lol

(depends on the fetish ofc)

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Youll like it, its 50 shades of Grey if Mr.Grey had a harem and made then wear funny hats

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Or how The Matrix was totally a trans allegory the whole time.

Though unironically the latest bad Matrix movie works well as a trans allegory, featuring as it does a world where some people would much rather live in a world they know is a lie rather than face the unpleasant reality.

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I mean author intentions go into a story and serve to craft it in the first place, so they aren't separate from the writing.

Authors changing their minds later is a bit different. Like sometimes authors will insist something in retrospect usually as totally inorganic marketing (yeah uh my story was actually always about current thing whodathunkit)

But whatever they had in their heads when they were writing is part of their work same as the prose and permanently above any fan opinion or even the opinions the same author develops later.

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True. They are two different things.

But, speaking of non-retroactive intent, some people are really terrible at getting their point across (like me) and their work can convey a completely different message than intended (or none). I would say my main point is that Author's interpretation does not automatically supersede other people's interpretations.

My example would be a story of a very shitty and selfish person that makes countless terrible decisions leading to his demise, and then the author comes out claiming that it's the story of how life is unfair. Most people would say it's a cautionary tale about the decisions you make, and the author is an r-slur.

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Fair point.

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"Also, Dumbledorton was totally gay"

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>favouring a young boy who he has visit his room alone a number of times

I can see it

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Authorial intent dont matter. See George :marseycantsneed: Lucas. Do we allow retroactive editing of media?

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that's a good example. Sometimes it's better to actively take the author's story away from them.

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Brain :marseysmoothbrain: fart, i meant György Lukács

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I mean author intentions go into a story and serve to craft it in the first place, so they aren't separate from the writing.

Yeah, but I can also ignore them.

:#tayshrug:

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Imo the best defence of DOTA is that a lot of ‘intent' is subconscious.

The idea of a focused, knowing ‘intent' is often silly when it comes to right-brained stuff like poetry, prose, art. (Sure there's a basic plan but there's a lot existing beside that)

There's a reason art/writing gets compared to religious ecstasy. The realest artists frequently zone out during the process and funnel a greater impulse without really understanding. And it's why they often come across like idiots in interviews. It's all intuitive.

Speaking from exp, I'll often write something, and look back at it later and see a bunch of themes/subtext/killer imagery I never recognised.

Sure there's room to bullshit about this, and I don't like a lot of the overt subjectivism associated with DOTA types. DAE craft isn't real and weebslop is better than Shakespeares? (/r/characterrant) but there's a lot of validity to the concept.

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>And it's why they often come across like idiots in interviews. It's all intuitive.

Musicians are the absolute worst at interviews. Just say you're an idiot savant and walk away from the mic. I could not possibly care less about how great it was working with some producer I've never heard of who is probably also sexually harassing you.

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no you moron the best defence of dota is

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Dude is actually good example that guys also hit wall, I was following him on fb and he looked like absolute shit before even hitting 30. All those parties seems to legit age you

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Words :marseyshakespeare: mean whatever :marseyjerkofffrown: the speaker :marseymegaphone: thinks they mean, chud

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T. Modern biblical interpretation

Hmm I don't think I like what this passage says so we can reinterpret it to mean something super nebulous so we can still do what we want

The people who write things (not just the bible) meant something by them, and saying "I am going take my own meaning from this passage" is one thing, but implying that there is no definite meaning meant by the writer is just silly

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DECONSTRUCT IS A VERB AND SHOULD :marseynorm: NOT BE USED AS A NOUN. REEE.

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Yikes! That sounds like prescriptivism! Why are you being a fascist chud?

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I dont tell the blacks when it's appropriate to say any variation of the n word. So you cant say anything :marseycoleporter: with authority :marseyblart: about french :marseynapoleon2: literary theorists telling you that people like you can't use deconstruct as anything :marseycoleporter: but a verb.

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:marseysmug2: readers, of all people, should know that

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:#marseyagreewarpspeed:

R-slur and reader :marseypdf: both start with "re"

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>BTW guys did you know that Starship Troopers was a very subtle and ingenious deconstruction of fascism?

I dunno man, Heinlein was pretty open in his love for fascism

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I dunno how anyone could come away from startship troopers thinking heinlein was critiquing facism and militarism lol

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I remember the books ending being super positive in a weird way, not like "look at the end result of this dystopia)

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Read some of his other books, brainlet. His thing was using Sci-fi to explore a society based entirely around a political concept. He wrote others that are about communism or libertarianism

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I dont understand why some people care so mich what some neighbor in internet cares about book you like.

Just read book and take from it what you take. Then masturbate lewd drawings of said book characters

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Just read book and take from it what you take. Then masturbate lewd drawings of said book characters

This is why Muslims are so angry. :marseymuhammad:

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:#thistbh:

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The next generation of enby queer/r*ped 8th graders needs to know explicitly how racist and bad the past was, which is why Huck Finn needs a rewrite with MORE BIPOC words, not fewer

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The Greatest American Novel:

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I agree, instead of Huckleberrys Finns use of the BIPOC word being a product of the time and him treating Jim with respect (which shows his willingness to not conform to societies standards) he should be a Klansman as only evil people even THINK of thay word

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:#marseyimmaculate:

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This is the kind of amateur literary criticism I can get behind:

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Did you know King Kong is actually an allegory for black people?

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:#marseydisintegrate: :!#marseyflamewar::space::!marseyagree:

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Oh LoOk I rEaD wOrDs On A pApEr AnD nOt On A sCrEeN. I'm So MuCh SmArTeR

Keep yourself safe bookstrags

Reading some random hipster's brainfarts doesn't make you smart

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The aliens did nothing wrong in Battleships.

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That movie is so incredibly stupid but the thunderstruck scene justifies the whole thing

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