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Thoughts on Margaret Atwood? :marseyhandmaid: :marseygilead::marseyflagcanada:

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Those who read her books, what are your honest thoughts on them? I know her works are famous for being foidshit :marseywomenrentfree:, still that doesn't mean they aren't well written.

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Wouldn't :marseyyikes:

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Thoughts on Margaret Atwood?

I don't think :marseymindblown: !r-slurs

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Atwood is the prototype of the vaguely leftist, mainstream-feminist Commonwealth novelist for whom the Booker [prize] is reserved.

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I always get her and Kingsolver mixed up because they both write trash fantasy for middle class women. I respect romance novels more. At least they don't have pretentions.

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Poisonwood Bible was interesting. Even if one the sisters she writes as a hero was kind of a dipshit, and the one we're supposed to dislike that moves to South Africa is actually pretty cool.

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Top 2 prime minister for sure. Didnt know she wrote books.

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Imagine being a celebrated foid writer, but all you write are variations of r*pe fantasies.

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>R*pe in post-apocalyptic world

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I just finished Waking the Moon by Elizabeth Hand and it's some of the most sexually fixated sci-fi/fantasy I've ever read. Even Heinlein didn't spend so much time describing women's bodies and the sexual acts they engage in.

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Her academic work on Canadian literature is really interesting. Handmaids Tale was garbage by someone who didn't have the balls to write about the Islamists she was actually inspired by.

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someone who didn't have the balls to write about the Islamists she was actually inspired by

The book and show give me some “what if Iran, but instead of Iranians it's the white North American women who are opressed” vibes

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Which actually would be an interesting premise if the author had done any research into the theological form a weird American fundamentalism might actually take instead of putting a bow on a Berkeley fever dream and calling it a day.

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Gilead's theology, government and society are nonsensical and without any historical basis. She said she was inspired by the 17th century New England Puritans, however the Puritans for all their faults did teach their women to read and write, the Bible was present in their daily lives. In Atwood's Republic of Gilead, the evil cartoonish misogynist government bans women from reading to the point of banning all written word from public sight, every single street name and traffic sign, shop name and grocery labels is removed and replaced with pictograms. I can understand some plot about “young girls are not being taught to read and write anymore” but the whole sign banning was just so ludicrous and done solely to make their one-dimensional villains even more wicked.

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I wouldn't go to the mat for that book, but it's an allegory, it's not hard scifi.

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so it's Christian Islam

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Thoughts on cracker mayo "people" nonsense?

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Despite memeing about the Handmaid's Tale, I haven't actually read it. I've read some of her short fiction, and Oryx and Crake.

As mentioned in @tur_keyed's comment, everyone in Oryx and Crake is repulsive and contemptible (a good chunk of the text is about the two protagonists watching child porn as teenagers). It's an interesting take on dystopia mainly because it shows how a society that's bad enough can make it impossible to be a decent person, rendering personal choice basically irrelevant. Lame dystopias usually have at least a few characters who are mysteriously untouched by their social context so you have someone to relate to. O+C is actively unpleasant as a reading experience, but with some literary value. The weird sicko "genius" Crake designing the successors of humanity based on his eclectic barely-human values calls to mind people like Sam Altman, Elon Musk, etc. and other god complex neurodivergents, though O+C imagines a future built on genetic engineering rather than computer technology.

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Tbh the two male main characters that grow up maladjusted because of unrestricted internet access in a decaying neoliberal society is interesting. The one grows up into a useless neet while the other becomes a weird tech cultist as you say

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No it's a book about child porn and it just sucks.

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I only read Orxy and Crake along with the sequel The Looming Tower and found them both to be quite good as well as being somewhat precient.

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Jimmy and Crake spend much of their leisure time playing online games, smoking "skunkweed", and watching underground videos such as live executions, graphic surgery, Noodie News, frog squashing, and child pornography.[3][4][5] During one of their child pornography viewings, Jimmy is very much lovestruck and horrified by the gazing eyes of a young girl seen in the porn known as Hott Tott.

At the Rejoov compound, Jimmy notices a human in the Craker habitat and thinks he recognizes her as the girl from the pornographic video. Seemingly unaware of Jimmy's obsession with her, Crake explains that her name is Oryx and that he has hired her as a teacher for the Crakers. Oryx notices Jimmy's feelings for her and makes herself sexually available to him, despite also being Crake's romantic partner.

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Yeah, there's several other messed up aspects to the book. I feel like Atwood is like a female Brett Easton Ellis, butt with weaker prose.

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I remember reading it and she used the phrase ‘Soy o boy' for some kind of soy product. This was before those memes were a thing.

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Oryx and crake were weird. Initially had me hooked but got worse and worse and ended anti climatically. Also the portrayal of porn use was pretty divorced from actually teen boys usage

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Agreed, particularly with the ending which lead me to read rhe sequel, that and because I was required to read it in college.

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She is a member of the Holy Trinity :marseyilluminati: of Read :marseyreading: another Book, along with Rowling :marseyrowling: and Orwell :marsey1984:.

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Based. Handmaid's Tale is foidshit, but it's also good creepy speculative fiction. I guess I'm biased in favor of foidshit anyway.

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I read Oryx and Crake a while back, very depressing scifi book about a fricked up love triangle

It was a good book

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