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"The Stranger" by Albert Camus. A dramanaut review ( spoilers inside )

I am doing this review right after finishing reading the text, but without looking online for what the book is about. Everything listed below is my own view:

1. I felt like I was reading something important that I could not grasp. Like I could understand it was important, but I could not figure out why.

2. I think the basic conclusion of the book is that one life lived is like any other. The universe doesn't care specially for any of us. It is only the judgement of man that gives value to our actions. The main character himself has not in any way acted in a way that truly made him evil. He simply went through life, getting along with those who accepted him and not getting along with those who didn't. The people that society valued more were the ones whose opinion of the main character society accepted.

3. It's a very honest and uncomfortable look into human psychology. We are good and bad by the standards of the people of our time.

4. I think the title of the novella " The stranger" refers to how the man was a stranger to his own mother, how by his strange ways he was a stranger to the society around him, and how he was even a stranger to himself, simply living life from moment to moment, without care for right or wrong.

5. Another conclusion of the story is that one is only well placed to accept the life he has. Everything else is imaginative play. As long as you accept the life you are given you can make peace with it. I personally disagree with this conclusion because I can see such a nature easily being taken advantage of by anyone who wanted to exploit people for their benefit. Humanity did not move forward in the evolutionary arms race by simply accepting their place.

6. I believe even Albert Camus admits that this philosophy is not meant to get you ahead in life, as in his very story he does not depict the narrator as a winner in life. Albert Camus's view seems to be more about what he believes the world is rather than whether that is a good or bad thing.

7. This makes the novella a refreshing read, as it has one of those rare characters who is not spending the story defending himself as a good man. Most novels appear to be focused on showing the main characters point of view as being naturally good or misunderstood. Here the character does not appear to fall into such a natural state. For all appearances he would have been condemned to die even if the jury could understand exactly how he felt about things and what he thought of them.

8. I am confused as the why the woman Marie loved the main character. I am assuming its a mix of Camus using Marie as a tool to keep the attention of the reader ( Hot woman inside. Look our guy gets laid ), and as a self insert of how his relationships go where he just goes through life and ends up getting laid a whole lot but there isn't any great technique or thought to it beyond how the main character went about it.

9. Another theme in the story appears to be how the people would condemn a man not for the crimes that he commits but for any appearance of a bad character he might have. Or punish him in one place for something unrelated he did in another place. For a man to condemn you it needn't require for you to be guilty, but only for you to be disliked to their sensibilities.

10. One bit that hit me specially was when the main character was talking to the jailer about how not being able to touch a woman seemed like double punishment and the jailer explained how that was the taking away of liberty, and I am just thinking of how strange it sounded to hear liberty be used synonymously with making love to a woman. It made sense but still felt so strange to hear. Not in a bad way, it just really justaposed how we live life right now in society and how strange we have become and how not free we are even as we speak of being free.

Final thoughts: Life is. There is nothing more or less to it than that. Make of it what you will.

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The whole premise of "dude is sentenced to death for not crying at his mom's funeral" is fricked up when you realize that drunkenly shooting an unarmed Arab at a beach isn't a hecking wholesome

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Does everybody :marseyhomestar: :marseyhomestar: forget the part where :marseydrama: :marseydrama: the arab actually :marseyakshually: :marseyakshually: had a knife :marseybackstabtrans: :marseystabby: on him and only when he took out the knife :marseyevildoll: :marseysrdine2: did he shoot.

Nooooooo how heckin dare you don't let the stabber close :marseynoyouzoom: :marseynoyouzoom: the distance before :marseyskellington: :marseyskellington: you shoot :marseyarabcelebration: :marseyconquistador: him!

And even if his actual crime was killing :marseymegalodon: :marseymegalodon: the Arab, the whole point :marseygoodjob2: :marseynoyouoccupy: of the story :marseyslime: :marseyslime: is that the jury probably would :marseymid: :marseywould: have let him go if that is all they had to go on, it was his not crying :marseyvapecrying: :marseysingletear: at his mothers funeral :marseywidow: :marseywidow: that was the detail that sealed his fate. Something completely unrelated to the primary case which society :marseyunabomber: :marseyunabomber: had determined :marseydetermined: :marseydetermined: matters to determine the nature :marseybutterfly: :marseytree: of a man and his willingness to commit a crime.

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Yeah the premise that the jury would have let him get away with murdering an Arab (that he tracked down and confronted for no reason besides it being too sunny and messing with his head??) just doesn't make sense today. The Arab showed he had a knife because he didn't want no trouble and so the dude just blasts him away and was all like "What I do? What I do? I'm sorry I thought this was America, what I do?"

Like OMG I can't believe they would arrest a white guy for murdering a native that's so fricked that really says a lot about society and mothers and stuff.

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the jury would have let him get away with murdering an Arab (that he tracked down and confronted for no reason besides it being too sunny and messing with his head??

He did not expect the Arab too be there at the beach though he thought it was all finished business and he just wanted too get away from the stress of being in the house.

@gigachad_brony gather you are just speaking of the Jury's perspective.

just doesn't make sense today.

Yes but we must see the novel from the time it was written in and the setting. @gigachad_brony is fairly certain during Camus's time the arab was considered lesser far as @gigachad_brony remember it.

Like OMG I can't believe they would arrest a white guy for murdering a native that's so fricked that really says a lot about society and mothers and stuff.

It does though. They valued somebody acting within expected social norms above people dying.

It's still relevant today whenever one nation invades another and everypony's opinion of who are the good guys is based on what neighbor they have or which vacation spots they have been too before.

@gigachad_brony mean just take the example of Iraq being invaded because they do not like American freedom.

That's not even an old case and is obviously a social buy in over peoples lives issue. That is absolutely still relevant today.

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Read Voltaire if you want a message you can understand

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A lot of books I read now and missed when I was younger (Lord of the Flies, uh, idk I'll look at the list later) are really dull and unimpressive to me. Even when I was 18 I was disappointed by "Brave New World." I think a lot of the stuff has been rehashed so many times in media and whatever that a lot of the ideas aren't new. I get the feeling that a bunch of pretentious fart-sniffers are who drum up these novels. They end up being nothing better than "neat" to me, usually dull.

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bro they used this idea in marvelman infinityverse 6, this book sucks

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Brave new world is supposed to motivate you by showing you the end result of a "man" who refuses to play a part in society. The administrator represents the free market.

It's an excellent moral - if you can't find a way to fit in, you should keep yourself safe

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The Stranger is unique though

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OP is in high school lol

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I read it when I was 20 and I had a similar take as OP

It's an interesting book that catches you off guard, like I didn't know what I was reading cuz I was new to lit

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Read his essay about accepting the day to day

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3 is :marseycope:

If you are bad by the standards of your time you are just bad

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do you think :marseyhyperthonk: a man is demonic :marseykitti: for not crying :marseycry: at his mothers funeral?

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Performing emotions for onlookers is a woman's role

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Yet the man in the story :marseyslime: is considered evil for not behaving like as you ascribe a woman.

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should've read the trial instead

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Kafka?

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yes

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I remember reading :marseyhijab: the first :marseywinner: few pages of it before :marseyskellington: I got bored :marseywait: the one time I tried.

@gigachad_brony expect it has a similar style too the Stranger.

I have read Kafka's "In the Penal Colony", though, and for some reason that story :marseyslime: stuck with me for years even after I had forgotten its name.

Something about the idea of a man full of pride :marseytransflag2: sacrificing himself :marseytedbackstab: as a last salute :marseyarmy: to a cause that was clearly wrong :marseyobamanope: and deplorable left a mark as a child :marseyhermione: reading :marseymoreyouknow: it.

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I would say both books make a similar overall point. I prefer The Trial, it's funnier. Haven't read any other Kafka but prob should

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whats the point?

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Both books serve to highlight the separation of man's intentions from his circumstances, or what lead him to be in that circumstance, whether justified or not. The mutual point would be the futile acceptance/inherent absurdity of the situation.

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Making peace :marseymuslimahitsover: with life no matter what form it takes. Got it.

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I guess? I don't think that's the exact point of either. The "point" is in the subtext of making peace with modern life while dealing with the complex systems that enable it. Hence they're both exaggerated and absurd (The Stranger less so, but still in the same vein).

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i've read the stranger twice and i still dont like it. i may be too r-slurred :marseyautism: to understand though

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@gigachad_brony will be honest with you.

I think :marseynooticeglow: the stranger is a high functioning on the spectrum test, and if you don't get it that means you are normal.

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Yeah this is accurate. I recommended it to you.

He's not really supposed to be sympathetic. The meaning is what you make of it, really. Including that there is no meaning to his life.

Your review of it is pretty accurate.

Camus' next book was The Plague, where it takes place in a small french town that gets struck by ...the plague.

It goes through the various different viewpoints and actions/motivations/ethics of different characters as they deal with what happens.

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Yes. Thanks for the recommendation. Are you mentioning that in general :marseydayan: or do you want a mention of your name next time I make a review?

Cool. Maybe I will check :marseyracistcheck2: out the plague :marseymask: too if its not too long.

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The Postman Always Rings Twice is a short book that inspired The Stranger

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I might check :marseycheckem2: it out.

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So this virgin named Mary was visited by an angel one day and he said she'd give birth to the son of God, which is pretty wild right? But she accepts like it's no big deal. She's engaged to this guy named Joseph at the time. Then they go traveling to Bethlehem while she could pop any day 'cause of some census thing. No room at the inn when it's go time, so she ends up in a barn having this holy baby. Some shepherds see angels and go check out the kid in the manger. Next some magi roll in sometime later with weird gifts for the baby they followed a star to. Then king Herod freaks out trying to kill the child so Mary and Joseph have to skip town and hide out for a bit before coming back to raise Jesus up. And that's how it happened! Angels and stars just popping up announcing this miracle birth like it's any normal day. Crazy stuff man.

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