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Much obliged. It's not as if it was elaborated in the first sentence or anything.
Wasn't in the post title though so…
What is this shit? I have nothing against audiobooks but it's literally not reading
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What's with people treating ADHD like fricking autism or being actually r-slurred lately? I'm young enough that it was a thing when I was going through school but it was more like, "take this meth and pay attention, dumbass" and not "OMG the whole world needs to accommodate your disability!!!"
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Bold is why they're mad.
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He's a king for causing seethe but also r-slurred, that shit aint reading a book
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People who seethe about reading stolen valour don't read
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Every literature community I've ever seen is incredibly insecure about their intelligence. Still not reading.
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I read hundreds of book by watching the movie while doing chores around the house
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Reading is for 🤓 take the
pill
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Listening and reading are separate activities, otherwise they would be the same word.
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I read every day and listen to audio books while driving and running. It's the exact same thing unless you have no ability to pay attention or are an extremely bad reader.
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Running and driving are the same thing because they both move you to a different place
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I seriously wonder how dumb a person would have to be to think that is an actual metaphor for the situation.
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Like i implied, if you are terrible at reading then i could see them feeling different. Otherwise reading should be about as effortless as listening to someone else read it to you.
I've read every day for the great majority of my life, and i travel for work so i listen to audio books a lot. My guess is you do little of both
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Bro I don't know why you're acting like I can't read when I literally read Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire in 4th grade when it was at a 10th grade reading level, contributing heavily to our class getting a pizza party at the end of the year. I'm just saying that "read" and "listen" are different words for a reason, if you don't get that then you're no more clever than Harry when he had to rely on Moaning Myrtle to help him figure out the dragon egg riddle - typical jock.
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IDK why you're trying to meme about this. You're the one butthurt that reading isn't super speciul and way better than listening to an audiobook.
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Reading
alone 
is easier than listening alone. You can go at your own pace, reread easily, and look up words 
easily.
If someone can listen
to an audiobook (and comprehend it) they probably wouldn't have trouble 
reading 
it.
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You can pause and go back on an audio book, and you can just a easily look up the words.
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Is reading a difficult mental workout for you? Sorry you were born with that condition :-/
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Reddit tier logic
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I can't pay attention to sh*t I hear usually.
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Skill issue.
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Listening is a feminine trait.
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nah gossiping is
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Listening is letting another person infect your brain with their words. Its also gay since its your head being basically penetrated by sounds.
Every real man I have met has been deaf or worn large earmuffs to block out the gay sounds of the world.
I don't even know what that is, but it sounds gay and jewish.
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talking is a feminine trait, listening is moid (simp) trait.
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The issue in this case I suppose is that this dude is doing the same pseudo intellectual grandstanding as readers do, but with even less effort.
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TF else am I supposed to do while driving to work? Gotta have my bookies
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When you convince yourself that your debilitative symptoms are the cure, you know you've hit the
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The science
literally 
says multitasking makes you worse at each task. These fools.
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Affirming delusions is just modern psychiatry, get with it bigot
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He said he would've enjoyed Huckleberry Finn if Jim and Tom weren't in there
He definitely didn't comprehend most of the stuff but at least he can flex that he read over 200 books
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It makes a lot of sense in a way. The book would be better if it was about something else.
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You can always tell who missed the point by how they feel about Tom in that book
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I'd you're not r-slurred
there's no cognitive difference but you have to actually 
dedicate attention 
to listening
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Most people who listen to audiobooks aren't putting in reading-level effort - they listen to audiobooks BECAUSE it's less effort.
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Speak for yourself. Most people who listen to audiobooks are great at multi-tasking. I've listen to over 60 audiobooks this year while working out, driving, cooking, doing exams, masturbating, doing my job (and I work in a warehouse), and even while I'm on call with someone else.
You're telling on yourself by saying reading needs more “effort”. /drops audiomic
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neighbor what
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It's harder to listen than read
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I wish my wife would send me her complaints in a newsletter instead for sure
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Listening to fiction is too passive for me. It's not my voice in my head reading and then imagining. Maybe audiobooks truly are for those people who lack an inner monologue.
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That's just everything now, though. ADHD is just one of the more annoying versions of it because of how it's overdiagnosed, both by doctors and people looking for victim points.
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True. The ADHD one is just particularly weird because it's so nebulous and is usually used to explain why someone can't brush their teeth or do their laundry lmao. It seems like its replaced depression in the mental illness meta on reddit
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The only diagnostic criteria are qualitative, so if it's real at all, it's on a spectrum just like autism
If you want to be productive but you cannot make yourself care in the moment without meth, you're adhd
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I NEED adderall so i can doomscroll without thinking about the world around me
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Yeah, it's useful for buttholes who only care about themselves, because they can blame everything they don't do for other people on their ADHD. OCD and the 'tism seem to be more backgrounded, because their symptoms require you to do things, not useful as an excuse to not do things.
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Most redditors have autism. I don't mean autism as haha funny meme insult, i genuinely believe this. This thread is a good example. When people talk about what books they read, they mean what books they've consumed, not what books they've literally read. That isn't something that needs to be explained to a normal adult
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I don't know, maybe we have different definitions of normal adult but the adults I talk to usually read things when they said they read them. If they listened to an audiobook they'll say, "I listened to the audiobook".
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Do these conversations happen at the VFW memorial cafeteria?
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yes, exclusively
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Maybe you're right. I guess most people would default to saying "I listened to audiobooks" but if someone did say what op said, I don't think most people would consider that an incorrect statement
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I wouldn't take issue with it irl, although if they told me they were listening to it at 1.5x or 2x speed that would give me some pause.
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Thinklets seething over 2x chads.
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Reminds me of the Virgin Superman vs Chad Flash gay-adjacent scene
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If you can tolerate 1x speed you have whatever is the opposite of adhd
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Saying you ‘read' an audiobook is literally r-slurred.
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People who think sitting down and reading words for hours is some kind of achievement amaze me. There's people seething that someone used their ears to get the words an author wrote instead of their eyes.
Newsflash r-slurs: slobbing around reading is an even more passive task than listening. You can listen while you drive, bike, run, work, cook, clean, whatever. It's superior in every single way
Wrong.
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Listening and relistening is fine. But “reading” challenging literature at 1.5x speed while working a job obviously means you're not digesting everything.
Audio is a different medium to novels. You are missing out when you only listen to literature - especially at the volumes he consooms. Harry Potter audiobook whatever, but listening to Ulysses over a night shift and claiming understanding is just lol
You prolly think passively listening to podcasts means something lol. Literal armchair intellectual type beat
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"I dedicate my spare time to consooming other people's fictional ideas in the slowest possible medium I am very intelligent."
Give your family the best gift this Christmas and keep yourself safe.
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Lmao. Project harder
“I flex my (unread) book count. I am very intelligent.”
I bet u think every time u jerk urself off, it's +1 for ur body count. It's a different medium after all.
Put on ur fave podcast and find a rope
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Bookcels keep on coping and seething. No different than Marvel and Disney consoomer soys.
Also forgot to bully you for this:
STFU nerd. "Challenging literature". "Not digesting everything."
Just because you find it "challenging" even when given all the time on the world when reading, doesn't mean everyone is similarly handicapped. Listening at double speed or even skimreading is plenty of time for people with more intelligence than you.
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double speed hang yourself
shocked u found the time to read my post tbh, did u listen to it? play it for when u rope, it won't take too long.
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You are far too stupid and unoriginal to pull off this gimmick you fart-sniffing r-slur.
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Genuinely r-slurred. The gimmick I'm talking about is pretending to be a big-brained reader of "challenging literature" then repeatedly making r-slurred responses that prove otherwise.
Saying "keep yourself safe" isn't a gimmick you low-vocabulary imbecile. No wonder you find listening to words so difficult. Multitasking is hard for smoothbrains.
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Maybe try holding a book and turning pages.
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How does this work anyway?
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Reading is the word for consuming a book, nerds. Get over it.
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Lol it's definitely not as impressive to focus on a book but people get so mad at audiobook chads
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Its the same shit
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I was told today
is Christmas.
"Heh, but did you READ it was Christmas?? Checkmate chud"
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It takes this guy about 1.825 days to read a work of classic literature. Lets say he absorbs about 400 pages in that time. Bjarne Stroustrup's Programming, Principles & Practice is approximately 1200 pages.
Lets consider that textbooks are likely somewhat more information dense than novels but not stunningly so. We will assume an upper bound of 5x information density.
If he ran a text-to-speech over Stroustrup's book, this guy could be an intermediate c++ programmer in a month and leave his shitty chicken deboning job. In the minimal case that a programming book is exactly as information dense as Huck Finn, he could learn to code within a week.
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I mean I like audiobooks because I can't walk and read that easily well no one can.
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If youre not able to sit down and read its because you're a dumbass. If you have adhd you can do active reading
or some shit but if youre at home and you still can't fricking 
read in your own space 
its because you're stupid. You litterally need someone to read to you because you can't focus on the words 
on the page.
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People who think you need to read (and not listen) to books to really read them out themselves as the people for whom reading is hard and think you need to suffer for it to count.
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Audiocels genuinely think reading is suffering
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Read it again I'm saying you only think listening doesn't count if you think reading is hard
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I read and listen to books, it counts but it's way less effort to listen to audiobooks imo. I don't think readers are wrong in saying there's a huge distinction, they're not saying you have to suffer through reading just both are on another level
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Listening to audiobooks at speed is fine.
Find some videos of blind people reading books or using text to speech, they're usually at 2-5x speed of human speech because you train your brain to process that way.
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What's the difference honestly
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Whisper sync is bullshit I will happily pay for.
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Snapshots:
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Having *listened over 200 classics this year
FTFY:
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Because unless specified, if someone is asked how many books they've read, audiobooks are going to be included in that number. And I have done some physical reading as well.:
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Maybe you didn't know this, but it's a pretty common ADHD accommodation to do other things (especially things that are repetitive and don't require a lot of active thought, which it sounds like OP's job fits) while listening to stuff (audiobooks, lectures, trainings, whatever). It helps us focus better. Our minds tend to wander if our bodies or hands aren't otherwise occupied. So it's incorrect and shows a lack of understanding of ADHD to suggest listening to books doesn't count “especially while working and trying to multi-task.” We do not experience that situation the way people who don't have ADHD do.
Incidentally, audiobooks are an accommodation for a lot of different kinds of disabilities, and pretty much every author I've heard talk about it agrees that they absolutely count as reading. To suggest otherwise is frankly ableist.:
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