This. It's either boring shit you already agree with because society listened to the guy, r-slurred shit that makes it extremely obvious why no one listened to the guy, god shit which is double r-slurred because god isn't real, or arguing about definitions no one cares about anyway which is triple r-slurred. The most impressive skill of the philosopher is somehow filling a whole book with about 4 pages of actual content.
If you're dumb as shit you should try postmodernists like Foucault and Derrida. You don't have to understand it because there's nothing to understand. Just enjoy their imbecilic babble and non-logic and pretend that it makes you sophisticated
(warning ⚠️ pomos are straight up paedophiles so don't enjoy it too much)
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Trial and Death of Socrates is a good book to read (collection of dialogues around the Apology). For modern stuff Sophie's World is pitched at the rDrama user's mental age.
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Most of the primary texts are probably too dense for a first time read. I got into it in college when I had the luxury of post reading discussions led by PhDs. I'd suggest before embarking on first time reads of primary texts that you read secondary and tertiary texts to understand before diving in. Thus Spake Zarathustra is a good read but it's more a novel than it is a philosophy book. It's easier to understand as a novel but very hard to understand as a philosophy book.
The works of Albert Camus would be much more approachable from a babby's first philosophy perspective. Though he writes a large volume it's easy to read because he's a good novelist and the philosophy itself is very life affirming and beautiful. Understanding it in its entirety would involve reading the greeks though but you can save that for later on down the line.
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Are you looking for analytic philosophy or history? Analytic philosophy deals with math, Boolean logic, rhetorical structure. It's a good foundation before you start jumping into books on -isms. Look into some basic thought experiments and try to come up with counterexamples. If you understand basic logical fallacies, syllogisms, and how to deal with contradictions you'll have gotten the gist of how an argument is structured. I should note in philosophy definitive answers are less important than the strength of your argument.
All the works and commentary are trivial to access, even if still in copyright with things like anna's archive. The main problem IMO is staying motivated and focused. For that, I don't have anything really solid, except having friends to discuss with, or reading about things you care about. My aunt is reading Bertrand Russel's History of Western Philosophy right now so maybe do that?
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It's super easy, you just have to huff your own farts.
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Don't. It's stupid.
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if philosophy is stupid then i am even stupider than stupid
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found the incel
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This. It's either boring shit you already agree with because society listened to the guy, r-slurred shit that makes it extremely obvious why no one listened to the guy, god shit which is double r-slurred because god isn't real, or arguing about definitions no one cares about anyway which is triple r-slurred. The most impressive skill of the philosopher is somehow filling a whole book with about 4 pages of actual content.
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which one is nietzsche
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All of the above.
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??? read a philosophy book. Start with the Greeks, like everyone else. They're the best ones anyway.
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you make it seem as though everyone knows this. please understand I am very dumb in the head.
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If you're dumb as shit you should try postmodernists like Foucault and Derrida. You don't have to understand it because there's nothing to understand. Just enjoy their imbecilic babble and non-logic and pretend that it makes you sophisticated
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Have you tried googling it?
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SEP should be near the top
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Start with the Greeks (Plato's Republic would be good).
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Trial and Death of Socrates is a good book to read (collection of dialogues around the Apology). For modern stuff Sophie's World is pitched at the rDrama user's mental age.
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I think therefore I am
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become philosopher
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Start with The system's neatest trick then move to industrial society and it's future. Or like pick up plato or something.
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For Western philosophy:
Read the Old Testament
Read Plato
Read Aristotle
Read the New Testament
Read St. Augustine
Read St. Thomas Aquinas
Read Rene Descartes
Read Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
Read Arthur Schopenhauer
Read Friedrich Nietzsche
Read Julius Evola
Make sure you do it in order.
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Most of the primary texts are probably too dense for a first time read. I got into it in college when I had the luxury of post reading discussions led by PhDs. I'd suggest before embarking on first time reads of primary texts that you read secondary and tertiary texts to understand before diving in. Thus Spake Zarathustra is a good read but it's more a novel than it is a philosophy book. It's easier to understand as a novel but very hard to understand as a philosophy book.
The works of Albert Camus would be much more approachable from a babby's first philosophy perspective. Though he writes a large volume it's easy to read because he's a good novelist and the philosophy itself is very life affirming and beautiful. Understanding it in its entirety would involve reading the greeks though but you can save that for later on down the line.
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Are you looking for analytic philosophy or history? Analytic philosophy deals with math, Boolean logic, rhetorical structure. It's a good foundation before you start jumping into books on -isms. Look into some basic thought experiments and try to come up with counterexamples. If you understand basic logical fallacies, syllogisms, and how to deal with contradictions you'll have gotten the gist of how an argument is structured. I should note in philosophy definitive answers are less important than the strength of your argument.
Try https://plato.stanford.edu
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Philosophy died at the Marne.
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All the works and commentary are trivial to access, even if still in copyright with things like anna's archive. The main problem IMO is staying motivated and focused. For that, I don't have anything really solid, except having friends to discuss with, or reading about things you care about. My aunt is reading Bertrand Russel's History of Western Philosophy right now so maybe do that?
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Go to museums and shieeetz
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I'm not addicted to gambling, I just want my money back
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