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The other day someone told me there are books written by scrotes and I was like :surejan: but is it true? Is there moid-made elfrotica?

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RIP Neil whoever that is.

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Wordmoids are stealthing unsuspecting women readers without their consent!

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AngryMummy2020 only wants hecking wholesome ladysmut.

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:marseyshesright: Totally true story of getting her little bro off to her shlicklit...

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This is pretty interesting. So first, it turns out that women tend to prefer their fantasies about 6'5" jacked billionaire vampire rocket surgeons to be written by women. And second, it turns out that much like on the Internet, a lot of the stuff written by "women" is actually written by dudes.

Very interesting indeed.

As an aspiring smut author, this is good to know.

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Its ancient news, if you are writing romance or erotica you always use a female alias

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This wasn't always the case, truly base sexual fantasies were the realm of men. A lot of people didn't believe that The Story of O could be written by a woman. Now the idea that it was written by a woman in her 40's is passe. It was written because her lover told her that erotica is outside the foid wheelhouse. If only he knew what Goneetes has in store for us.

the early 1950s, Aury was worried that his attention might be shifting. Well aware of his liking for erotic literature (he had written a preface to de Sade's 120 Days of Sodom), she said she thought she could do something similar. Paulhan was dismissive: erotica wasn't a thing women were capable of. In the footage, licensed by Rapaport to show in her documentary, she explained: 'I wrote it alone, for him, to interest him, to please him, to occupy him. I wasn't young, nor particularly pretty. I needed something which might interest a man like him.' (Pressed as to why she wrote in pencil, she replied mischievously: 'So as not to stain the sheets.')

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Anaïs Nin was also a big erotica writer too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaïs_Nin

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Married foids in their 30s-40s make the best erotica writers

According to Volume One of her diaries, 1931–1934, published in 1966, Nin first came across erotica when she returned to Paris with her husband, mother and two brothers in her late teens. They rented the apartment of an American man who was away for the summer, and Nin came across a number of French paperbacks: "One by one, I read these books, which were completely new to me. I had never read erotic literature in America... They overwhelmed me. I was innocent before I read them, but by the time I had read them all, there was nothing I did not know about sexual exploits... I had my degree in erotic lore."[

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Iirc she was banging writer Henry Miller on the side back then too

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She had two husbands, I kneel to this Stacy

When you die, The Los Angeles Times obituary will remember you as the wife of Rupert Pole; The New York Times lists your widower as Hugh Guiler.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/31/magazine/31pole.t.html

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queen shit

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smut author

More respectable than journ*list and influencer

Sorry it had to be said

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Not a high bar, sucking peepee for money is more respectable than journotism

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:therefore#:

A fricking journo who sucks peepee for leads is fricking more respectable than the fricking one who doesn't, because they spend less time journ*lisming and more time sucking peepee.

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This but unironically

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Absolutely. And perhaps more likely to make money without first having to suck up to some small circle of woke scenesters in NYC or LA.

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Yeah the female alias' for male authors has been happening for awhile now due to lit being an industry entirely controlled by women.

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If foids don't want men to ruin their smut they should stop invading my sci-fi and fantasy genreshit and ruining it!

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N-n-no you can't just add realistic complex characters to scifi! What about the thrust ratio of the ion engines!?

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add realistic complex characters

:#marseysmirk2:

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>realistic complex characters

>foids

:#marseyxdorbit:

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This is why foids are getting a lot of heat.

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From the ion engine exhaust?

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Stop trying to ruin everything. Nobody asked you to ruin scifi.

Mark my words if a female space marine shows up there will be rampages.

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Excuse you. As an rdrama poster it's my sacred duty to make everything worse, all the time, for everyone.

We took an oath, @pizzashill. That may not mean anything to you but it means something to me.

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>Mark my words if a female space marine shows up there will be rampages.

Duly marked. :emuxd:

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:shutu#pmale:

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There is already a female custodes the frickin 40k is fricked

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>add realistic complex characters

Women tend to do the opposite, Mary Sue was a woman's creation after all.

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Classic authors like Ursula Le Guin, Octavia Butler, etc are great, and new wave sci-fi was a big improvement over neurodivergentpunk golden age stories. But the modern foids who win the Hugo every year or get to write for Disney+ are total hacks, and their hackery has an explicitly gendered component

The best women writing today will never be rewarded for it (same goes for moids)

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Honey, have you've read a fantasy book written by a woman? (If you say harry potter I'm going to bite your clitoris off) I've been burning through a lot of them lately they're quite terrible

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In all honesty I don't read fantasy (or romance, really) because I'm a giant litfic snob. The closest I get to fantasy might be magical realism, I like Isabel Allende.

Does Susanna Clarke count as fantasy??? Emily Mandel?

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>litfic

What trauma caused this?

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The How To Train Your Dragon books were decent, but I don't think I've read one since elementary school.

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This neighbor straight forgetting about Ursula K LeGuin lmoaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Okay, tell me which abortion was your favorite

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They're all my favorite, bestie. :marseyhearts:

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Fair.

How'd you like earthsea?

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But unironically

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Also shut the frick up about video porn if you dont want us adopting your book porn

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There are probably more women writers than men writers.

But the best writers are going to be mostly men. Like most things, men dominate the top and bottom, and women are mid.

Using a female pen name when you write smut is a no brainer. Men don't want to read smut written by men, das gae. Women don't want to read smut written by men, he's probably an average or homebody dude and ugly. Women reading smut written by women, though, is tacit social approval of that smutbook behavior. Female smutty writer beats anonymous male smut writer in every customer demographic.

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I suspect Black Future might have actually been written by a man. :marseyshook:

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This is probably a furry artist kind of situation. You might not be into it, but it makes more money for less effort, so why not?

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Are there romance stories that both men and women like? Or is the genre doomed to be one gender's fantasy while the other goes :marseyeyeroll:

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I think a major issue for writing romance is perspective, who does the prose follow when they aren't together. Some romance stuff for foids have a chapter from the moids perspective but it seems like a tough nut to crack especially given that romance writers are basically given AO3 tags to follow and the genre is very rigid due to publisher demands. I don't think scrotes bring enough cash to the table to bother appealing to them so why try.

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Swapping chapters back and forth between perspectives seems like the best way to do it. I think a lot of books do this.

With regards to your last point, I see Kindle erotic slop that's obviously for men and seems to get lots of sales and reviews. But it does seem like men aren't going to the bookstore to get their romance books.

I feel like most men wouldn't pay for a novel that was just romance. On the other hand, your average moid would definitely prefer his fantasy/sci-fi/thriller/whatever genre book if the female lead was really hot and there was more s*x in it. Romantasy in particular feels like something where you could make a version for men with a large inherent audience, you'd just need to know how to promote it. But of course this doesn't solve the problem of creating something with significant crossover appeal.

I do think there are some mutual/complementary fantasies, but I'm sure hitting that is difficult, and the resulting work might be harder to market

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the only examples I can think of are in anime, specifically ghibli and ghibli-esque movies

Whisper of the Heart and Suzume come to mind first, others like Kiki's Delivery Service and The Wind Rises aren't necessarily romance imo

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Much Ado About Nothing?

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Okay more srsly I don't really think so. If there is, it's because it's a surface level romance. Men and women are too different

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Star Wars

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Great question. I think there can be romance stories that appeal to both genders, they just mostly exist as romantic subplots in bigger stories. Especially if there's enough ambiguity and leeway for the fans to insert their own ideas about the relationships.

Smut tends to be hyper-specialized, so by its very nature it often doesn't appeal to different genders.

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I got into fantasy romance

That's moid equivalent of "I got into furry inflation porn" no cap

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:#marseycumplosion:

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A man writes under a foid pen name and then is tested by the market to see if he passes well enough, it's a true meritocracy.

Everyone knows the best romance author right now is Mo Xiang Tong Xiu(:wolfxianxia:) and she's a woman. Supposedly she got v& by the Chinese government for a bit over smut. Scrotes hate seeing a woman win.

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Women write better books for women, because only women know how much they like to be r*ped

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Behind the screen, this woman is fat

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this

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Is reading non-smut not an option?


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:!#marseystopposting:

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why hasn't /u/FusRoDaahh commented on this yet? she is online 24/7 and always has sane takes about men in literature to share

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Karl Marx was a man (debatable but still) but he is the undisputed greatest chicklit author

@ObamaBinLaden say this as a feminist ally

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:#marseynorm:

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