Stunning and brave opinion. I unironically like Harry Potter :marseyrowling: :marseyhermione:

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Also, I liked the Goblet of Fire film adaptation

>nooooo, but what about Barty Crouch being better explained in the book! And the quidditch tournament fight! And the Hermione elferino libtard movement which was all cut! :soycry: :marseysoycry: :seethejak:

Don't care, and it's the only film Voldemort felt menacing after returning. By the last films he was just kind of goofy.

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i hate harry potter for what it represents - that success is never truly proportional to quality.

HP deserves success, it was and is still above average and for books coming out as a series and young fantasy.

But there comes a point where success goes beyond what is within reason , relative to competition and outliers in a medium.

HP isn't the only media work guilty or vulnerable to this. How many things are successful BECAUSE they are successful, like a snowball effect, running downhill from the rumor mill

HP was one of the 1st viral sensations, as internet and mass communication, and social media proliferated degrees into a society beyond anything ever could pre-internet era.

The radio and TV era would over-hype and sensationalize also, but it's in terms of degrees.

Back when barbieheimer came out, many any peeps would overhype the quality of the movies, and associate the criticism of the movies with their experience. For may peeps this was the 1st post COVID movie sensation, and the actual debate and quality could not distanced from the horde's IRL experience, from the experience of the movie.

It was like a grassroots movement of Vidya game companies giving free tickets to Reviewers to disneyland or something, and giving them the 5Star hotel treatment, even when peeps are honest, they could not disassociate the experience of going to a hype movie event, from the actual quality of the product itself/

People would act like lunatics, like standing in front of Bookstores through midnight, so that they might for the 6th and 7th books of Potter.

https://www.wizardingworld.com/news/remembering-harry-potter-midnight-book-launches

I find this to be unironically to be disgusting behaviour. The apex of consoooming media. As if the experience of experiencing the media is more important than the media itself.

Can any of you guys truly honestly tell me that the story of the Death Hollows was enhanced by standing in line in fricking bookstores, waiting like impatient fools for even the best book to come out?! The is something eerie and repulsive of such behaviour

My safrican mother loves the Harry Potter books independantly from the hype, she followed the newstrain independent from the insanity - and had enjoyed the book, even when the very 1st Philosopher stone was released - she even commented to me and my sister that we would enjoy it because it was "almost aimed at children" in her own mind, not realizing that was the young adult intent we now know in hindsight.

My mother was a massive bookworm and would order all of the HP books, but she was also a devout christian, and went to weekly Cell, in addition to church - and as the next wave of Satanic Panic went through the christian communities of Safrica, the next on the target for deviancy was Pokemon and HARRY POTTER :marseydaemon: :marsey666: :marseydevil:

My mother would bribe me and my sister into not giving her away to her christian peers which made up much of her support group, fearful of rejection or informal excommunication

I remember being confused as to wtf the adults were talking about, because i never were able to find any anti-religious or christian themes. The books were largely apolitical.


In this context, i learned about the HP books, and their quality spoke for themselves, as well as them carving a then unused niche for young children coming of age.

But for me the repulsiveness about the International Harry Potter fandom was BECAUSE the fandom had outgrown the quality of the books, just as the sales numbers had far proportionally outgrown the degree of quality. And this isn't about being salty your favorite series was left in this dust

The problem cam that such snowballing success attracted the most normies motherlovers imaginable. On the surface level', having non extreme fanatics join your Gatekept fandom would be a good thing, to bring in new blood.

But it reminds me of how 10 years ago /r/polandball would actually ban you if you linked the sub, in other subreddits of more than 100 000, because the "default page crush" or normies storming into a small sub would destroy the culture of a subreddit overnight, never lurking to learn the ropes and rules and unique forum tier lingo of that small niche subculture.

In the pre-Marvel era, that HP fandom was the basic b-word of media - so many people didn't congregate into clubs because they liked reading, or because they enjoyed fantasy , or even because they deemed the Harry Potter books because they were fricking good by their own standards. They joined it because it was successful.

IT WAS LIKE THEY WERE FANS OF THE FANDOM, NOT OF THE BOOKS :marseyrage:

This meant that no true conversation could be had with them, because their understanding of the books were as shallow as wet pavement. They never could come up with any talking moments about the series on their own - they just regurgitated talking points they saw in their shitty clubs, or copied reddit front page opinions :marseybeanannoyed:

You see those freaks who cosplay (costumes of media characters) at nerd conventions, and something about it just always struck me as off, as inauthentic. So many star wars "fans" would during the Force Awakens, in throngs in their shitty Jedi outfits go to see the movie in theatres, standing lines, and jubulate HOW THIS WAS THE BEST DAYS IN THEIR LIFE :marseytrollcrazy: even here in Safrica.

And while imbeciles in costumes told me Force Awakens was awesome - i was like wtf that was garbage.

Do these people actually like Star Wars, because they enjoyed the films, games or some of the books, or were they fans of the fandom,

Cuz these are the tards which devour Marvelslop, the Marvel movies have no quality, because its fans have no quality

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I went to one of the bookstore midnight release parties. It was fun, like a mini convention :marseyshrug: and then at midnight everyone bought the new book. No one was standing in line outside of the store for hours where I was, the event was inside the bookstore.

The Harry Potter fandom was the original terminally online fandom though lol. I never really was involved with them but the fanfiction and shipping wars were insane.

>polandball

Man I used to love those stupid cartoons. And the subreddit went to absolute dogshit when Trump happened :marseymanysuchcases:

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Yap yap yap

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!metashit known yapper @Yaprev is very pissed at me for this :marseyxd:

I love sucking peepee is what I heard know yapper @Yaprev yapping about last night

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Can any of you guys truly honestly tell me that the story of the Death Hollows was enhanced by standing in line in fricking bookstores, waiting like impatient fools for even the best book to come out?! The is something eerie and repulsive of such behaviour

Never camped out in front of a bookstore or whatever, but I can see what the appeal is. You spend all night hyping up about a thing you're really looking forward to, and you spend it with a bunch of other people who all love the same thing. I imagine people be sitting on their lawn chairs having conversations about Potter theory or whatever with the people near them in line, and that's something really fun for them.

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I didn't even read the books and camped for the last movie's midnight premiere. When you're 17 and the internet hadn't become as all-consuming as it is now it was a fun excuse to hang with your friends. Now they do Thursday night "previews" and assigned seating so there's no point in doing it now.

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Harry Potter's success makes a lot of sense when you realize it's main attraction is the roleplay fantasy of being part of a British boarding school that was functionally a 24/7 theme park. The actual story about Harry is pretty straightforward and nothing remarkable, in fact he suffers from the main character disease in many fantasy works where he's not very interesting as a person and is overshadowed by the characters around him. It's the roleplay and self-insert potential that created the legions of fans that wrote and consumed countless fanfics and ran around IRL playing Quidditch with brooks under their crotches.

Previous YA authors have done the whole fantasy school for kids before but they didn't give the same kind of attention to world building and the lives of various side characters as Rowling did.

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BREAKING NEWS:

LOCAL REDDIT PSUED :soysnoo3: FORGETS TO READ TOLKIEN'S ESSAY ON FAIRY STORIES :marseyleaf:

MISSES THE POINT BY A MILE :twosoyjakspointing:

AND TYPES WORDS :soysnootype:

TO MAKE HIMSELF STOP CRYING :soymad:

BECAUSE HE GOT BUCK BROKEN BY JK ROWLING :chudglassesglow:

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ur late

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:directlypointingsoyjak: >YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE YOU'RE LE LATE... LOL

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Midnight book lines are fun buying a shit ton of costumes and paraphernalia is where i draw the line

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My mother was a massive bookworm and would order all of the HP books

Literally my mom, except she goes to church once a year at most and no one here ever gave a flying frick about "muh HP is satanic" bullshit with the exception of the looniest evangelicals.

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Success is about positioning. Merits are an indicator at best.

The world has too much quality media and too many MBAs to award quality for quality's sake now

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I hope you had chatgpt pen that one fam

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You should just unassociate all the separate issues you just mentioned with Harry Potter and you'll be able to enjoy Harry Potter more.

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