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Before incel was common term, /u/GovernmentsGetGfs argued that the government should provide girlfriends.

https://i.imgur.com/ttSFqSm

								

								

There's tons of good content in the links, I'm not quoting it all.

This first appears in /r/rage and he shows up to defend himself

You left the part about him wanting to frick mommy out of the title?!

Not giving in to my incestual desires is literally the same as murdering me, mom!

It was about desperation because of 10 years of incel. I'm not in love with my mom and would never beg for s*x if I wasn't completely s*x starved and desperate. :marseymoidmoment:

SRD Reacts

Actually, I did not blackmail a woman for s*x. What happened was that she promised s*x to a sensitive, sexually inexperienced guy once just to change her mind because I said it will be weird doing it with condoms (of course I was going to use them, I was extatic about the opportunity to have s*x). After three full hours of me trying to talk into doing it with me and explaining she's making a fuss over nothing she agreed to do it again, just to change her mind when I asked her to say “brb” before taking 15 minute leaves. After that I called her on the phone, cried over the phone because of the humiliation, begged her not to treat me like that, begged her to allow me to have s*x with her just once while she laughed. Than I got really mad, insulted her and she hung up. After that, in a state of dissaray and extreme rage I posted one fricking picture of her face, without her name, not expecting her to contact me ever again. But she called and offered s*x to take it down and I caved in like a little desperate kitty I am, agreeing that she will come for one hour only and that there will be no kissing or oral.

:marseyem#ojirofl:

he does an AMA on /r/drama

I have a question: why do you think your mom turned you down when you asked to get laid due to your condition? Did she not know it was crucial towards your curing?

I don't think she turned me down because of my condition. She is unable to understand incel at all. She just turned me down because she though the idea was sick. And so did I, but I was very frustrated at the time and I don't know where to find a prostitute as they're illegal here.

It wasn't crucial for my curing. Just getting s*x once doesn't mean you suddenly stop being incel. It was just something I wanted because I was very desperate and no longer want.

One thing that would be crucial for my curing was if she helped me with my incel during the age of 14-24 by introducing me to some girl, one of which might have liked me.

:marseyobam#anope:

He's also an atheist and wrote :marseylongpost:

I suggest you read my article here https://governmentsgetgirlfriends.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/quo-vadis-atheism

I am an atheist since I was 11 and find it the only sane attitude on religion. However, I am disgusted by what is called the The Atheist Cult, WHICH MUST NEVER BE EQUATED WITH ATHEISM.

I'll quote myself on what the TAC is:

**problem with atheism today are those atheists who have created what is called The Atheist Cult. When it comes to moderate members of the Cult true description of themselves is “we're atheists, that means we're smart”, their true goal “God doesn't exist so let's suck each others peepees”. These people are losers. Everyone whose life revolves around his atheism is a loser. They're funny and harmless. And, unfortunately, are becoming more and more of a minority.

Sadly, what's becoming a majority of the Atheist Cult are disgusting, utterly wretched people esposuing dangerous and toxic ideas like third wave femifascism, extreme misandry, myths of “patriarchy” and “r*pe culture” (and general obsession with r*pe), cult of therapy, political correctness, hatred of the white race, waging of war Western men while remaining unforgivably silent on the unspeakable oppression of women and girls in Islamic societies and a cult mentality. These people lack any critical thinking and treat each other and their enemies in a way a cult does.

I first encountered these people couple of years ago when I disagreed with them about something on a certain forum. I registered and expected a civil debate. Within moments all of my points were strawmanned and I was showered with insults in a way I would never be on any Christian forum. I was shocked. These people are rational atheists?! They seemed more like crazed 17th century mob attacking what they thought was a witch. I soon realized that in order to debate there I would have to put 90 percent of them on ignore list and debate the few who weren't complete lunatics. The scary thing was that most of them were educated, successful people. How, then, can they make such awful logical fallacies and act like they're from the 11th century? The only way for me to understand this is if I acknowledge that they are religious, but have just chosen different gods and symbols.

But it gets worse than that. There is also a third type of Atheist Cult members. These are the dangerous ones. In a manner of worst religious fundies these fools are ready to harm their perceived opponents in real life by doxxing them, contacting their family members, friends and work place. Why? Simply for not agreeing with what they have to say. I was a target of such people once and now I'm their target again. Both times the goal wasn't to critize me in a rational manner but to dox. I am pretty certain that no Christian would go after me in this way. Of course, once you oppose these violent, insane people and tell them that this, once it becomes real doxxing, will not go unpunished they accuse you of threats, call you a psychopath for refusing to take it like a dirty enemy should and try to make themselves look better with a bunch of lies – for example, that I “stalked” a woman trying to dox me ON MY OWN BLOG SHE CHOOSE TO POST ON, when I didn't even care about her IP nor do I remember it, that I published her real name when I never did or that I declared a war on her when all I said is that war will start if she starts it – if I wanted a war I'd start it by now, having more than enough info on her ! If I remember some more lies I'll add them.

Many people belonging to the third group are now joined in Atheism+, a lunatic fringe movement best defined my Urban Dictionary as A bunch of frauds. Despite having atheist in its name it really isn't atheism at all. Their goal is to subvert atheism with the religion of feminist indoctrination and b-word about non existent misogyny.To these people any legitimate questioning of feminists and female privilege is grounds for calling anyone a misogynist. Atheism Plus is really nothing more then an attempt at co-opting the meaning of atheism.Atheism Plus is nothing more than dogmatic feminists trying to commandeer the atheist movement. This will set back Atheism for decades if these usurpers gain popularity.

Their actions include banning of all who oppose them, doxxing private info, threatening critics employment and using DMCA as a doxxing and censorship tool.

Of course, there are members of the third group who aren't members of Atheism+.

How does all this relate to incel? Not too good, I'm afraid. These people feminists and they see incels, those poor men many of whom are suffering for decades as just entitled whiny brats. Most of them even refuse to acknowledge that incel exists, simply because it's not a medical disorder, even though 1. A twelve-year old would understand that a chronic near-total or total absence in a person's sexuality of intimate relationships or sexual intercourse that is occurring for reasons other than voluntary celibacy, asexuality, antisexualism, or sexual abstinence does exist, and can't be called a “dry spell”, unless you think that being a virgin at 50 is also a dry spell 2. Nobody ever tried to say incel should be a medical condition. 3.There have been studies made on involuntary celibacy.

It's even worse when it comes to love-shyness. Same old arguments about it not being a medical condition are thrown combined with stubbornly calling it nothing more than social anxiety, when everybody who suffered from it or is currently suffering knows that his fear of approaching a woman or making and kind of romantic advances is much worse than any other fear of any other social situation and that love-shyness should be included in the DSM as a specific phobia. Brian G. Gilmartin is attacked because he talked about astrology and reincarnation, past life regression, and Kirlian aura, which is used to say he lacks any credibility, when in fact it would be useful for anybody to read his book in order to understand why love-shyness certainly isn't social phobia, though it often stands in correlation with it.

Their solution to these problems? Therapy, stop being “entitled” (when in fact they never actually explain why are incels entitled), treat women with respect (disregard that many people who are complete trash and don't even treat themselves with respect, let alone others, have partners and get them with ease), more therapy, annoying insistence on “nice guys” when most incels don't even call themselves that (and I find it stupid when some do!), attempts to make you believe that your incel isn't the problem, your reaction to it is (when incel is definitely a problem and everybody but these heartless brainwashed beasts can see it), attempts to make you believe that your reaction is the only problem because, remember, incel “doesn't exist”, false accusations of too high criteria when most incels have very low criteria after decades of deprivation, the desire for incels to learn to live in this unnatural state (which goes against the basic human nature) aaaaaaaaand… more therapy.

The consequences of such horrible approach are visible in incel communities- I have never met an incel who was helped by therapy and the hatred most incels show towards feminism and The Atheist Cult in general is astounding.

So, how would I define these people, these parasites on the name of atheism? They are, simply, bigoted and dangerous fascists, a modern analogs of religious fanatics of the past. Thus you have PZ Myers calling all anti-feminists Marc Lepine and many other disgusting examples.

The problem here is that you can't fix fascism- fascism needs to be taken down !

Does that mean that atheism should also be taken down?

Of course not. Fortunately, there are still sane atheists so it's not like you go crazy the moment you become an atheist. What we sane atheists should do is

Condemn lunatic groups like Atheism+, which give atheism a bad name, and call them out on what they are.

Reject femifascism, extreme misandry, myth of “patriarchy” and “r*pe culture” (and general obsession with r*pe), cult of therapy, political correctness, hatred of the white race, waging of war Western men while remaining unforgivably silent on the unspeakable oppression of women and girls in Islamic societies and a cult mentality. Make a firm and decisive effort to explain people that these ills are not there because of atheism but because the atheist name is being used for other, malicious purposes.

Inform the public about these differences between atheists and The Atheist Cult.

Not get allied with extreme religious and right wing groups while doing so, as this would only harm us.**

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A girlfriend would be nice

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Boyfriend-free girl :marsey#cwc:

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