Inquiry into the Titan disaster reveals new footage and documents, including sub's wreckage. Scott Manley gives his thoughts on why it failed.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CxBtZmyPzVA

The US Coast Guard has just begun its public inquiry into the Titan Submersible accident, and in the process has released a number of documents, including, critical footage from a remotely operated vehicle showing the wreckages on the ocean floor. The spaceman looks at the available material and gives his own thoughts on why the sub failed.


Key takeaways from the video:

  • ROV footage was released showing the wreck. Apparently it's only the pressurized section that caved in as the footage shows the unpressurized tail-end containing electronics to be mostly in one piece

  • Full communications transcript has been released. It does not indicate that either crew was in any way aware of the vessel failing

  • Despite what many people (including on here) said, carbon fiber and titanium have apparently been successfully used for submersible design by US navy, the significant difference being that it was for an ROV

  • The footage shows the pressure hull having imploded unequally, instead a lot of material was being pushed into the tail-end. Judging off this, it is likely that the structure failed at head-end, potentially on the interface of the titanium end-ring and the carbon fiber, which lead to buckling further down the line and collapsed the whole structure

  • Previously the most circulated idea was that point of failure occurred in the center of the vessel, where it is exposed to peak stress

  • There is also footage from OceanGate promotional videos showing the installation of said end-ring, where they glue it in place (which coincidentally is what the US navy did for their ROV as well)

  • The failure at that section might have been caused by mismatched moduli of compression of the two materials, causing extra stress between carbon fiber and titanium as they were compressed under pressure. That is however a wild guess by the author of the video with nothing to back it up, and he himself admits that it could've been a variety of other factors involved in cutting costs, like using low-quality carbon fiber

  • The prototype for the atmosphere scrubber on board was a sealed plastic box with the absorbent... and a single PC fan blowing over it :marseyyikes:

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the pressure inside the hull is basically negligible compared to the immense pressure of water surrounding it

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Fine, but how does it worsen the effect of collapse as compared to something that isn't pressured at all?

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Because if it's not pressurized then it works how you imagined, equal pressures counteracting each other. There is no pressure differential and the material sees stresses more equally.

I looked up the carbon ROV

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17268312834813359.webp

It looks like the pressure vessel is made of an alloy and spherical, which is ideal, the rest is carbon just like the tail piece of the titan, which survived

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Oh so it's not pressurized in respect to the pressure at the bottom of the sea, I thought it just meant that it sits at 1 atmosphere while the pressurized part is a bit higher.

God I'm stupid, this makes much more sense :marseygigaretard:

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You're not stupid the fricking video is fricking just made by a fricking guy with a fricking funny accent. :marseyembrace:

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Nah the guy is alright, I just fundamentally misunderstood what "pressurized" means in this context, which is pretty embarrassing because I have a degree in physics

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I had to take kindergarten twice because they didn't think I was fricking mature enough and my birthday falls around the fricking cutoff for age. :marseycrayoneater: !followers

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i had to take reorientation in 2nd grade lower-school because i had trouble writing and reading and was back of the pack

i hated and hated learning to read

then my mother took us to the public library which was magnificent for our backwards shithole - it had loads of Tintin and Axterix comics

the teachers disdained comics and always tried us to get into reading via novelletes, but those walls of words r*ped my mind

in tintin and asterix, i could follow the pictures - and i would reread these comics over and over and over

And in doing so i got curious, because i was lazy and intimidated by the giant speech bubbles. Initially i would only read the bubble with 1-2 lines of text, but my curiosity of actually understanding the stories, made me exert more effort for the biggest speech bubbles as well - and oover time i was reading the largest speech bubbles, those with 3-6 lines as well.

eventually by the time i entered my teens, i was rereading these tintin and Asterix comic books back to back, every single word and line and speechbubble, not skipping a bit and understanding everything the characters were saying, and the events occurring inside of the comics.

And in doing so i developed a love for reading which i initially despised, i would move on from comics to novellettes and eventually full books.

!bookworms

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Modern :marseywarhol: education really :marseythinkorino2: discounts the fricking importance of picture books :marseysexylibrarian: for teaching kids to want to read. Thats the only fricking way I learned to love to read (that and being bored :marseyunamused: while grounded for an entire year for doing stupid :marseygigaretard: shit lmao)

!christians !catholics !bookworms

I present :marseycoal: the fricking first :marseywinner: Bible :marseyklennypriest: I ever read:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17268353845412855.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/17268353850899522.webp

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what got me into reading was i realized i could imagine every character as an animesexual :#marseyagreefast: !anime :#twerkingfurry3:

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Do you still remember the Asterix comics?

Any favourites?

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Did you see the fricking Tintin movie, b-word? It was fricking actually really good.

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That's crazy, you were the first Boer to learn how to read

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Do you have dyslexia?

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I liked reading books ever since I was in like 4th grade or so. I went to a rich person school which had a library larger than most public libraries, so it probably helped.

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They translated eurocomics to Afrikaans?

Also I've been reading since I was 3 and I was always multiple grade levels ahead of my peers :marseynails:

Shit at :marseymath: though

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eventually by the time i entered my teens, i was rereading these tintin and Asterix comic books back to back, every single word and line and speechbubble, not skipping a bit and understanding everything the characters were saying, and the events occurring inside of the comics.

:marseyclappi#ngglasses:

Yuor so smaaaart!!!

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that's really cute :marseyheart:

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I don't get it :marseyconfused:

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Deadass?

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Watch "Oceanliners Design". He has tons of content on the Titanic wreck and other 19th and 20th century Ocean Liners.

which is pretty embarrassing because I have a degree in physics

Everyone makes silly mistakes

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Oceanliners Design

I'll bookmark that one

Everyone makes silly mistakes

In my defense I'm mostly working with nano optics/photonics, but this is just coping at this point. This is a good example that simply holding a degree doesn't make you smart

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Physics is a such a broad field, unless you're von Neumann level genius you'll eventually forget about stuff you haven't seen in years even if it is basic stuff, but I bet you could pick it up fast and with ease if you go check a textbook on Fluid Dynamics. College gives you a tool box of knowledge to eventually apply and that's it.

People hear stuff like "oh you studied physics you must be super smart" and while I bet they're there's still a lot of hard work and dedication involved which is more admirable than being a progidy.

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Titanic depth pressure is 6000 PSI so you probably dont want to pressurize your crew capsule to the same :marseysubmarine:

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:#marseyzoomerimplosion:

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