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eager_toilet follows/you Director of Consanguinity, Hierarchy, and Exclusion  7d ago (youtube.com) 249 thread views #319487

Judo is an Overrated Martial Art

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXYqqx8DwFY 


								

								

									
									

									
								

							

							

								
									
								
							

							

								
	

							

						

						
						

							

								
							

						

					

					
						

							
							
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Dude critizes judo for stalling compared to BJJ and finds cartwheeling and going belly down unrealistic compared to wrestling.  :marseyconfused:

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Judo neighbors going belly down in order to stall for their lame ruleset is a genuine problem tho. It's unique to Judo and defeats the purpose of learning it as self-defense.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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It's not unique to Judo though, you see tons of it in wrestling.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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That's only really a thing in American folkstyle and regardless wrestlers are taught how to actually stand up from belly down and turtle.
Judo nibbas use belly down and turtle as a stalling position. It makes the idea of using Judo as a self-defense martial art utterly pointless.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Both greco and freestyle stall out in belly down. Freestyle does it for sure.
And wrestlers can't turtle anyway. The way they do it just screams "please rnc/guiliotine me"

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Freestyle does it way less than Judo dawg. I don't know what else to tell you, Freestyle wrestlers frequently escape turtle and belly down because it loses a ton of points compared to Judo where the rules don't penalize showing ur bussy during newaza. Judo schools don't teach quad pod getups, no sit outs, no reversals, no nothing from turtle/belly down. It's a fundamental position that even kids who wrestle know how to escape.
And wrestlers can't turtle anyway. The way they do it just screams "please rnc/guiliotine me"
Minor adjustments really. Wrestlers often learn these techniques really well since front headlock and turtle breakdowns are fundamental techniques they learn. You can't seriously tell me that bjj/judo players know front headlock or leg rides better than wrestlers.
Judo's a great sport but the emphasis on Ippon and dramatic throws kinda fricked its usefulness. As with many things the Fr*nch are to blame.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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It is minor. But every judoka who's stuck around for at least a couple of months of BJJ have similarly learned not to overcommit to their throws like an r-slur.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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I just feel like black belt judoka should be better than an average bjj blue belt of similar size on the ground, but in my experience that's not the case. Overcommiting to throws is just a smaller part of the bigger problem which is the people making the tournament rules in judo have the wrong priorities: differentiating judo from other forms of grappling and maximizing the amount of highlight reel throws. Judokas can't seriously argue that they practice the most useful martial art for self-defense and then don't teach how to escape turtle or grab a single/double leg.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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judo sucks, but its cool.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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