"We were informed last Monday that Evolve was only going to pay us $500 out of that $280,000," Morris said during a court hearing last week, her voice wavering. "It's just devastating."
One Yotta customer, Zach Jacobs, logged onto Evolve's website on Nov. 4 to find he was getting back just $128.68 of the $94,468.92 he had deposited — and he decided to act.
Andrew Meloan, a chemical engineer from Chicago, said he had hoped to see the return of $200,000 he'd deposited with Yotta. Early this month, he received an unexpected PayPal remittance from Evolve for $5.
Yotta was a fintech startup with the premise that instead of paying out interest, they would give you "free" lottery tickets that ran once a week. It was heavily advertised among financial youtubers/tiktokers like Graham Stephan who was a partial owner. I don't think anyone actually ever won the grand prize(still less rigged that the lottershe ) but this thread suggests some meager wins. In January they added casino games instead of the lottery which didn't ring alarm bells for anyone.
Yotta had advertised as being FDIC insured, but what they really meant was that they used a intermediary (Synapse) who used a bank that was FDIC insured. Synapse is a middle man who held one bank account (lol) at Evolve Bank and was behind a bunch of different alternate bank fintechs.
Back in March, Synapse said they had $500 million in Evolve bank. Evolve Bank said prove it ( ) and then Synapse went bankrupt. Since the bank didn't fail itself, the FDIC said it's not their problem and that Synapse itself was never FDIC insured (this is somehow not a crime). Other regulator shrugged their shoulders too and said good luck. There is supposedly $96 million in missing money, a lot of being from Yotta.
So I had a couple thousand in Yotta. Not anywhere near what these people did, but enough to where it's been hurting to not have access to it.
For two years, I used them with no problem, just like a bank, being told the money was FDIC insured and everything else.. just like a bank.
The difference was that I was getting higher interest rates than I could at any local banks. It was nice. For the longest time, they would give you a number of tickets based on what you had saved with them - I was "winning" maybe 50c on average per day. Nothing crazy, but it's definitely better than the local banks.
Anyway, it's been half a year now. I'm still hoping to get the money back at some point. I'm one of the unlucky ones who had theirs deposited into an account at Evolve instead of one of the banks that was able to find and return the money. Evolve even recognized that I have 'x' amount in the "synapse ecosystem" (which matches what Yotta says), but they are claiming that they hold 0 of it.
Here is a tik tok about it where a girl talks about her money being frozen and how she got it due to a youtuber she can barely remember.
https://tiktok.com/@abby.ritter8/video/7434291100145290539
r/yotta has a bunch of threads about people getting offered pennies on the dollar
Here's a comment on tik tok which made me chuckle. A little late for that my dear.
close the account. they have 90 days to write and send you a check
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Imagine putting even a single cent near something a youtuber advertises
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Because banks tell you they're FDIC insured or not. They have to. Any bank that isn't and doesn't you dont bank there. If you do expect getting rug pulled
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That's the neat part. Your money was FDIC insured, as the advertising proudly declared - because Synapse stored it at real banks and kept track of who owed what where. Except Synapse lost track, and without a reliable paper trail each individual bank could plausibly claim they weren't the one who owed that XX million (and it sounds like enough of a clusterfrick that those denials might be sincere). So everyone's accounts are frozen while the accounting and legal issues are unravelled.
So while Yotta couldn't say "we are FDIC insured", they could say "your money with us is FDIC insured", and you'd have to do a lot of research into the technical details of bank transfers to identify the difference.
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How hard is it not to put your entire net worth in one place?
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I don't know about this but the amount of sympathy actual r-slurs get online when they invest in an obvious crypto scam is starting to make me support crypto scams more and more.
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Why in the world would you choose to use an online-only bank?
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Reddit told me we are going to live in the cyberverse with spiderman once Kamala is elected. Welp, look where that ended up. Drumpf fricked it all up.
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Not even a real bank lmao.
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I got fricked over by Ally exactly once and immediately withdrew my money from them. Using a bank recommended by a fricking YouTuber is just karma for the r-slurred.
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because you like getting fricked in the butt, financially speaking not with any real sodomy
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but the interest is too good to be true, which is something that the evil lamestream banks can't offer me
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sofi and chime are probably fine, these other weird ones are not.
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The drama here is actually sooo good and I can't believe that little twink got away with it.
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The problem is that it takes forever to get FDIC insured even if you're a regular banker so all these fintech startups have to create these weird partnerships with banks that can go belly up at any moment.
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Wait so where did the actual money go? They said they took the money and were doing things with the interest, but what about the deposits?
Seems like they are going to go to jail and everyone who had a deposit is going to lose their money.
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Nobody really seems to know. Yotta has turned into a pure gambling app, the CEO of Synapse has started a new robotics company, and all the regulators are saying not their problem.
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Seems like a glowop
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Graham Stephan, the guy who promoted FTX?
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Yup. Interestingly enough, Yotta got seed funding from Andreessen Horowitz, a venture capital firm that was behind Bored Apes and a couple of other crypto rugpulls as well.
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It's not rigged dumbo.
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@Turkeyvann tiktok and reddit video embeds are automatically playing on poorcel mode, plz fix
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i cant do anything about it
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i can disable embeds completely on poorcel mode
would this be something u want
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Yes, but an additional option separate from poor mode if possible.
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why
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Nevermind. I have no idea why I wrote that. Adding it to poor mode is just fine, thanks.
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This is such a massive scam even more trusted Fintechs are exploitng. Even CashApp says they are FDIC insured and use it too sell their products as absolutely safe.
Problem is NONE of these apps customers are protected directly by the FDIC because none of the apps are BANKS.
For those that don't know, FDIC insurance protects bank customers from bank failure and covers you're lost deposits (up too a limit in some cases) if the bank loses them or cannot pay out.
When CashApp says it's "FDIC insured" It means CashApp's money is protected in the event Chase Bank collapses. So while it is true that in event Chase goes under it won't have a domino effect and take out CashApp with it subsequently meaning you won't lose you're money as a CashApp customer, it doesn't mean you're money is protected from CashApp going out of business directly. If CashApp collapses then you're FRICKED and the FDIC won't do a thing about it. And this is arguably infinitely more likely too happen than an actual bank falling over.
If @Z were a CashApp or other shitty fintech cashgrab startup customer @Z would definitely be inclined too say "I LOVE SUCKING PEEPEE". However, @Z is not.
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Darn. I don't even trust PNC with more than $2k in an account for miscellaneous expenses (I'm thinking of even dropping that once I can get everything to bill directly through Fidelity). People actually leave money in cash app? Lmao
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But why? What does it achieve?
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Poors are so dumb they need to be encouraged to save via lottery tickets
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I think when it started rates were still close to 0% so you weren't really losing much.
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Snapshots:
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this thread suggests some meager wins:
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r/yotta has a bunch of threads about people getting offered pennies on the dollar:
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These rubes lose so much money and yet none of them will ever take irl action over it. Weird.
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