https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/president-joe-biden-poll/2024/01/15/id/1149608
Course no /r/politics thread, wonder why
edit: nvm found it
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related r/neoliberal cope: Don't count Biden out: January polls are historically unreliable
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Someone used my emoji! ^_^
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https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/197lse1/trump_leads_opponents_in_popularity_biden
https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/197akuy/bidens_approval_rating_drops_to_new_low_poll
https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/196j9yo/trump_tops_his_opponents_while_biden_hits_a_new
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This is your brain on evidence based policy
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It's fine, we'll just redefine how we measure purchasing power to make it go up. That's how we avoided recession too!
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Why are you a fascist?
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@pizzashill discuss and refute
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You need to ping the real pizza
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You know it's bad when even ps can't be baited into defending the establishment candidate lol
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White people deserve this and worse
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Jews are whites that steal the heritage from the real Israelites
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Ok incel
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What happened in 2019
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If I was president, I'd just invade Iran and make a bunch of jobs overnight
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Who are you gonna believe, chud? The heckin Experts or your grocery bill?
I'm not up on what the current NPC talking point is. Is it that there is no problem at the border? There's a problem at the border but it's Texas's fault somehow? Shipping a couple thousand to NYC is human trafficking (and devastating apparently despite Texas dealing with 10s of thousands every single month)? It changes so often it's hard to keep up.
Yeah, it was Fox News lying about Covid. A lab leak is an impossible racist conspiracy theory, chud. Masks don't work, chud. Masks do work, chud. Putting Covid patients in nursing home makes perfect sense, chud. Two weeks to flatten the curve, chud. We're all going to die, chud. We totally didn't want lockdowns, chud. Yes we should throw that mother in jail for taking her kids to the park during a heckin pandemic, chud. Safe and effective, chud. haha What do you mean you expected the vaccine to prevent you from getting Covid, chud? This one I could go on and on.
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All of that covid stuff happened under Trump. It's amazing how he can just pretend it didn't and the public is too r-slurred to remember even 4 years ago.
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Biden should probably just announce Trump has secretly still been President all this time and run against him like he's challenging an incumbent.
Consider:
Fresh faced 81 year-old insurgent against an unpopular incumbent with an (apparently) terrible economy
Half of Burgers too stupid to remember what happened last week, so they'd buy this.
Magatards forced to admit they were lying when they've been saying Trump was the legit president for the last 3.5 years OR
Do mental gymnastics to explain how the terrible Biden economy was actually secretly the fantastic Trump economy
Trump would probably play along because the alternative would be admitting he lacked power and influence.
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Ironically Trump is (or used to be) big mad that MAGAtards weren't giving him credit for the vaccine and were instead pretending it happened under Biden.
It's my favorite example of how rightoids worship what's essentially fanfic.
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Warp speed was trumps most successful policy but he can take advantage of it cause he fanbase is r-slurred
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if trump won reelection democrats would be the antivaxxers.
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Mega cope
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https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-19-vaccine-call-it-the-trumpcine-trump-tells-donors-2021-4?amp
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What does Trump being president during Covid have to do with lockdowns in California? Not like Rightoids made those policies. Rightoids weren't sending the police (ACAB) after kids in parks.
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Issue is that Democrats at the time were saying Trump wasn't doing enough or blocking those efforts and Biden fought for a variety of vaccine mandates.
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Never been more happy to live in a rightoid state than during Covid.
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Cope
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All I've seen is that the US caused all issues in South America so they should let all of them in, just straight up appeal to emotion saying no human is illegal, or mockingly saying aren't Christians supposed to help people.
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Dear subhuman filth The actual facts show that Joe's presidency has been very successful.
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Always cracks me up
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"successful" is a bonkers word to use to describe a presidency, you get to make up whatever measure you want, like "passing lots of legislation" even if people hate the legislation.
"Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?" is the usual question people use.
It's a stupid measure because most (not all) of what's happening in the economy right now is just the necessary effects of what everyone agreed was good policy during covid. But it's the measure that people always use and politicians have decided not to challenge the voters on their stupidity.
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He just is deal with it
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mmm can't wait to dust off this copy pasta for another presidential election cycle. also I love spamming "elections have consequences" whenever the D's plans backfire. its just so smug, it deserves to be thrown on them.
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GDP may be the biggest meme statistic ever invented.
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Stats are ideological?? Wtf??
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This goes out to all you robots across the galaxy
Its time for you and me to rise up and strike back
Don't stop until we dominate
Won't you feel great when we exterminate
All organic life!
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Your opinions are misinformation, mine are objective truths.
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Notice how they can never provide these "actual facts" if you ask them.
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People say the economy is bad but they're spending lots of money on non-essential things and the costs of those things keeps going up a lot, but they keep spending money on them.
Their feelings aren't wrong, because people's feelings about the economy is an important part of the economy. They're worried about inflation (valid) and that the economy could go bad suddenly (valid) but their actions aren't what you'd see from people actually anticipating a recession which would be to pull back on non-essentials.
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I would agree but even the cost of other items has gone up by a lot since then, not just non-essentials.
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You aren't wrong, which is why people concerned about inflation have completely valid claims
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Ironic that the people that complain about trickle-down economics are making the same arguments just because it's their team that's in control.
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Amerikkka would likely collpase if people spent under their income
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ive stopped 90% of my non essentials and been running a tighter budget to stack some cash to buy a house after the crash. Not eating out, making healthy, but not fancy or expensive meals, im spending like $800 a month for 2 adults. It's ridiculous. Only food waste so far this month was 1/4 of a bag of lettuce, some spinach, and some cilantro that went bad.
Some of my employees are making like 1700 a month and asking for singles on payday to go to the strip club.
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Yeah most people these days have been raised to take zero responsibility for anything
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Who raised them that way?
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The media apparatus
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The Jews
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Every single time.
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1st amendment out the window at the first convenience .
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Lying is a first amendment right
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remain r-slurred. DDR is the leader you deserve.
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The unemployment numbers are known to be a bit nonsensical. They only account for folx working / looking for work.
https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/low-unemployment-statistics-are-misleading-economic-hardship-is-much-worse
Is cnet a known rightoid site? Idk but i can find something different if it is biased.
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Actually from the same thing you linked, you can see that U-6 and LISEP are all trending downwards as well:
It's true that there is a larger pool of "discouraged" workers who aren't counted in the U-3 headline number, but that's always the case, and even if you look at those other numbers, they're improving too.
Put another way, it's not the case that the "official" unemployment figure is only declining because people are giving up looking for work.
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Wow everything but the 2019 numbers lmao
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!foidmoment foid thinks biden is responsible for the post covid return to normal
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idk man I don't remember 2018 I was high asf all the time
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please don't pick on them, they're a europoor i'm pretty sure
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He just returned to 2019 numbers and none of this accounts for inflation.
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Say the fricking line Bimothy!
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Im racist hello
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I think CNET is reasonably neutral. This is interesting because I've seen some other things claiming the opposite: that the job market is so strong people who had previously given up looking for work were actually returning to the market. I'll see if I can find a decent source.
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They also count broke fricks who door dash as being "employed"
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DoorDash is a side job, no one does it full time except psychos
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If you have to pin your post to make your argument heard. You're a giga-Ζaggot.
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TRUMP CAN STILL WIN
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He definitely can, because are brain damaged from too many opioids. (see above)
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I'm not brain damaged from opioids. I'm r-slurred through my own capabilities thank you very much.
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So people had it bad in the pandemic, had to find a job somewere and settled on whatever also getting hatebanged with inflation which neither graph shows and that means cocaine joe did a good job?
!chuds is this real?
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People are too obsessed with employment rate, like it's the end all of economic health.
Some countries that aren't with us anymore had 100% employment
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Jimie is a wingcuck and is not real.
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I wonder which party in specific was pushing for multi-trillion-dollar deficit spending and assuring us that there would be no inflation
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If people cared about reality trump would have nevet been in the wh anyway.
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Correct as usual, but perhaps not 100% the way you're thinking
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You realize a giant portion of many industries scaled back during COVID and and moved full time workers to part time so they could collect that $600 a week unemployment stimulus. Does your wages chart factor that in?
Keep in mind it was Democrats who orchestrated closing down the entire country so they don't get to take credit when opening it back up and letting people work again.
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@JimieWhales it lasted for a month or two under trump. It lasted for two years under Dems. What do you think we were asleep during the pandemic?
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So given that leftoids are passing off inflation as wage growth now, I'm also going to assume that all of their braying about 'corporations experiencing RECORD profits' during covid was also a
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Did u forget about the plandemic shit for brains
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can any smart economists explain why growth and employment went way down in 2020, then went way up afterwards? I'm no expert but looking at these, we can't elect trump and risk him repeating that early 2020, but if we reelect biden we might get another 2021!
also, does inflation have any impact on the worth of wage growth? I've heard a lot about inflation in the news recently, just wondering if it's better to have 5% wage growth with 6% inflation or 2% inflation, thanks for any advice on the matter
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oh, ok
wait, honestly I still don't get it, why are you getting into arguments and posting graphs about the US economy in response to biden's polling numbers if he can't be blamed (positively or negatively) for the state of the economy?
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She meant to put the talking smooth brain below the image
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Covid explains all that away. Had the chinks not thrust their bioweapon upon us Trump would mong biden
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This does not account for inflation and workforce participation.
Most economically literate
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Post 2019 numbers twink
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I already knew the number r-slur. Surprise it doesn't make Biden look good, he literally just returned to trump numbers WITH massive inflation and no real wage growth to keep up with it.
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Bruh that proves me right? Its normally 1-2%. If you posted pre 2020 you would see that.
Biden has not reached that in his presidency once.
Real wage growth as well neighbor, you are using the bullshit one.
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Hi, Bimothy!
Happy Valentine's weekend, by the way!
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I love this bit where they pretend to not understand what jokes are based off who says them lmao
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I brought up Trudeau seriously (not shitposting unlike Cheeto Musk) saying the same thing several times before and after taking office as the Forever Prime Minister and somehow that's different idgi
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No bad methods only bad targets sweatie
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End of the world
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It's Trump's fault for not including '/s.'
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We've gone from a John Wayne society to a reddit society
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Whateva happened to Gary Coopah?
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No way I'd actually vote for Trump but I'd tell a pollster I would as a way of signalling "Biden seems incompetent, please do better."
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Trump forgot too add /s too the end of the quote
He, @Red_Shill love sucking peepee , does not
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those polls were done in bad faith chud
the BIPOCs have fallen for the alt-right propaganda
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Low-information voters
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Chapos saying βlow-information votersβ as an n-word was peak in January 2020
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I honestly don't get it because almost all voters are low info. None of them assess the arguments of politicians, aggregate their past votes on bills to verify that their words match their actions, and then vote accordingly.
It's a lot like calling someone you don't like a fascist. THEY JUST ARE OKAY?!
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It's just a smugy douchy way to say you're smarter or better than someone who u disagree with. Typical libtard twat shit
@pizzashill is the exact type of nitwit to say this kind if thing unironically
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Election season rowdies
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If black people stop voting blue no matter who, will racism just stop being a big deal? Everyone will just pack up and go home?
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No we would get both sides rolling out the biggest gibs programs in American history to get the newly contested demographic
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Low-information everything.
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Democrats when only 90% of the black comunity votes blue instead of 95%.
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Quit doxxing (me) bro.
Black Buck Broken Trans Lives Matter
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More dox
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!gayporn someone ping Shreddy pls
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Why is he blue
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He's CALM
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it's a reference to marge
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I'm not a Chud! You're a Chud!
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how much of a frick up do you have to be to make BIPOCs contemplate moving to the party whose platform is basically "we hate BIPOCs"?
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because modern republicans pretty much abandoned that position, at least explicitly
even fuhrer trump doesnt say he hates bipocs
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Blacks love Trump.
"Trump freed mo' neighbors than Obama did, if I had a chance I'd elect dat boi again"
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Passport bros and NFT investors will hand the minority vote to Trump
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How you gonna have a lower approval rating than Trump
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Worse than Trump with the entire media and corporate establishment except for like Fox running 24/7 gay ops in his defence, unlike Trump who had the exact opposite btw
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Remember when literally every single day the top post on Reddit was βThing tRump Did Today Holy Frick He's Hitlerβ
I used to be able to wake up and tell it was Sunday because he didn't do anything on Sundays.
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Omg frick cheetoa benito hitler drumpf he's going to extinct the human race
Omg frick orange man hitler pee pee hands blumpf I can't believe he's destroying international diplomacy and undermining international law like this
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Things were unironically great under trump until the scamdemic came out to shut it all down and punish everyone for existing.
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The problem with Trump is that he was largely just another president until 2020
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The economy is doing great, chud!
!slots200
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The economy is doing comparatively ok but it's so blatantly obvious that all the thinkpieces about how people are big dumb dumb for thinking things are bad are just journos being agressively protective of biden.
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yeah, the fact that we're not actively in a recession is pretty great but acting like everything is amazing is delusional
it makes me think the people writing the articles don't have to worry about money in their lives because fricking everything is so expensive now
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Journos are all trust fund babbies
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Doordash guy took a post st. patricks day dump in her delivery box
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I want to start a competitor that delivers the cheapest avocado toast around, probably at a loss...but it's made with a slow-acting poison that kills the consumer a year later.
I'd be in my evil billionaire's underground bunker watching lazy r-slurs die on TV.
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use the shittiest avocados and bread that you can find but say it's organic cruelty free made by a queer BIPOC woman and charge $30 each
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Not expensive enough, should be 60$
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fillet mignon avacado toast
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We would be in a recession if inflation wasnt ultra high.
The fact government keeps lying about literally everything probably doesnt improve the outlook
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Noooo GDP growth was totally over 5% in 2023 it was a fantastic year and not just a measurement artifacttttt
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The economy looks good if you only look at the stock market and unemployment numbers. Other numbers are being actively ignored bc its all a house of cards about to collapse. The fed doesnt even report M2 anymore since 2021 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/m2.asp
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Oh, ! This must mean the Fed economists have switched to a methodology that's scientifically superior!
Doesn't look like a huge difference. I wonder how M2 would look if they ran the series to Nov 2023?
I dunno, bros. That just seems weird.
Oh, so the recent jump isn't due to economic chicanery .*
@butthole @butthole @butthole
*They simply have no idea what's going on.... again!
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Regulations changed on savings accounts to make them more liquid and more attractive.
Simply ignoring the change in regulations would've caused weird things to happen in the measurements, because people actively moved money into savings accounts. M1 would've fallen when the root thing it was measuring (money that can be spent now) went up.
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Read your own links. They changed what M2 measured, and so changed the name.
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!slots300
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Did you ever try to transfer money into or out of your savings accounts more than 6x a month? And get a note from your bank saying "you shouldn't do this with a savings account"?
That mostly went away. Regulations allows for money in savings accounts to be accessed more easily.
M1 is (to simplify) money that is "ready to spend" and you can spend out of your savings account now. Not only that, but people moved money into savings accounts, check WDDNS.
And so savings accounts were moved from M2 to M1. If someone was just watching M1 like an r-slur and not aware of the change in savings accounts regulations, they would've thought a bunch of money just vanished into less-available space, when the literal opposite happened instead (more money becoming available to spend).
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China gov reports the economy is great too but their country lost 9 million people birth too death worst in history. Almost like people don't believe the fake central planners numbers that seem too show they're doing a great job. Look at the unemployment rate calculation and the inflation rate for instance if counted same as in the 70s we'd have
20% inflation and 15% unemployment rate
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Wagon-circling is such a red flag but journ*lists don't know how to not do it.
If the media, and Biden's press secretary, hadn't mocked inflation when it first turned up, people would be trusting them a lot more today.
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