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We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Israeli children.
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what a woman moment, she teed that one up for him
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i literally don't even understand what sort of answer you could possibly give besides that one? like is the implication that you're not supposed to deport people who dragged their kids through 300 miles of desert?
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No, the issue is if illegal parents have US citizen kids
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Deport the parents, congratulations, the kid is now a ward of the state. Easy.
Don't like it? Ok, we can end birthright citizenship which is nonsense.
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Birthright citizenship is one of the really great things about America. It means you can never (well, not since 1920, anyway) have a permanent underclass of nonvoting slaves like the UAE.
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come again?
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Yeah it's not actually a good idea to try to get rid of it. You can end up creating the regressive issue of statelessness, which is widely considered a human rights violation, when you try to deport a child who is neither a citizen of the US, nor necessarily of whatever country you're sending them "back" to. I'm not a big fan of recreating problems we fixed a long time ago.
https://www.state.gov/other-policy-issues/statelessness/
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The child should get the parent's citizenship.
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Some places they do, some they don't, but we don't have any control over that so it's kind of a pointless statement to make.
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The vast majority of people live in countries without birthright citizenship.
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Not our problem.
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They do sometimes, but it doesn't nullify their US citizenship and it can't be revoked even if the policy changes
Everyone thank the based farmers for cooking up this spicy taco of a problem
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Just create tiers of citizenship
Anchor babies should get no entitlements, no voting rights, period
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No ex post facto laws so you're kinda fricked unless you burn the constitution
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It would be for things going forward. Current anchor babies obviously no one can do anything about
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Service guarantees citizenship. Frick entitlements without work. They have to go back. And you should lose your citizenship until you earn it.
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Everyone who hasn't served in the Military honorably for 4 years or a least one combat deployment should lose their citizenship and be given a green card. Any criminal loses their green card and is deported to whichever country volunteers to take them before we air-drop them into the middle of the Atlantic ocean
Voting conditional on an IQ test over 115 and owning property
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!americas kill this Old World-cel
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darn that's very continental
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its not 1820 anymore.
as soon as the fed starts back up handing out the rest of that land out west again we can talk about policies designed to populate a vast (newly
) empty land 200 years ago
also the welfare state. those people back then got their free land and citizenship but there were no frozen tendies let alone neetbuxx
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there aren't neetbux for anyone but refugees, EMS and School is covered by taxes they pay through sales and ad valorem from renting + the majority of the US is uninhabited, only citycels think it's overcrowded
maybe we just secure the border and don't change our fundamental laws
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Compromise: birthright citizenship but only for first worlders
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So just Japanese or what?
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fr the only reason the US has birthright citizenship is bc when we made that decision it took months to get here and there was a fairly significant chance you'd die along the way, especially in the shittier passenger classes
nobody at the time could have foreseen that any prole would be able to fly from Europe to the US in less than a day for less than a single month's wages
I don't think it can ever be removed, though. You'd never get the majority you'd need to change it.
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Nah it was passed after the war to grant citizenship to all former slaves and their children
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So we have to pay for their kids, way more expensive than the illegals just staying here, and there's a 110% they'll get into gangs and meth as soon as they're released.
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Good
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Sounds like the parent fricked up. There's a lot of kids that grow up without their parents because they are fricking idiots.
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Specifically parents who came across the border illegally, then have an american born child because we are slow as frick at processing them.
soil based citizenship needs to go.
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dirt doesn't vote, chud
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Pictures that make you say fuk laws n shit
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Modern "j*urnalists" are basically LLMs trained on buzzwords that just string them together with an upward inflection to see how the interview subject reacts.
The entire point is to churn out as many statements as possible in response to as many buzzwords as possible to build an /r/politics headline.
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Landlord Messiahs?
Frick that's worse than I though
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What's the actual law on deporting US citizen children with non-citizen parents?
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i actually just pasted your question into google and got this lol
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That sounds like some AI bullshit. This article from some law website is like "uh... it's complicated, hire a lawyer" But obviously they want everyone to solve all their legal problems with lawyers.
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How about for each illegal, we pick one of those tards who threatens to move to Canada and deport them instead? Remember, bottled water only, Lily!
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Same with doctors. As a man with above-average intelligence I am perfectly capable of diagnosing and treating myself and I am not falling for the "see a physician if..." scam
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The Big Lawyer always wins.
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Well yeah it literally says so right there in the header
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Trump says he's going to end birthright citizenship
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Would require a constitutional amendment. It'll never happen.
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Not necessarily, the jury is out on whether congress can define it, birthright citizenship is not explicitly written in the constitution.
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Say that to R* House, senate, WH, SC. Trump can do whatever he wants and you just have to like it.
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Lol they will not pass a single amendment in the next 4 years on any subject.
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40 years*
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says increasingly nervous man for 9th time
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Trump won a big victory, but you need far more overwhelming support to pass an amendment, and I don't think Trump of all people could possibly get that support for literally anything.
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And especially not for presidency
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Take a close look at the electoral map and then let me know where they're going to come up with 3/4 of the state legislatures (38 states lol) to ratify their amendments.
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75% of state legislatures have to ratify amendments you r-slurred BIPOC
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The Constitution is the supreme law of the land so anything passed by Congress would be shot down just based on 150 years of case law
They might pass it to make it look like they tried though
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shot down by who?
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Judicial review, even Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch are strict constructionists. Congress cannot contravene the Constitution, if a law is unconstitutional it is unenforceable.
Their past rulings on similar cases support this
BIPOCs ate my cat
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Normally, uhh, yeah, but historically, in representatitive republics with these 3 branches: a state of exception or emergency makes prior rulings are irrelevant. What matters is is loyalty and hegemony.
Trump has loyalty and Hegemony, only thing he needs is a state of exception/emergency and the SC will play ball.
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i think he said some bullshit about 're-interpreting' the constitution.
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Seems pretty clear to me.
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i see some wriggle room
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Surely all those CCP/Saudi/Jeet Princelings born in the US and then flown back to their shitholes won't harm the US in 30 years
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They are supposed to refuse entry to pregnant women near term
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The Mayocide is nigh.
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Latinx are white now, mayos will live
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This is the key phrase. Native Americans for example weren't citizens until a law in the 20s because they weren't considered subjects of the US.
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Yeah but that became legally untenable, it was originally assumed they were independent sovereign nations.
US v. Wong Kim Ark is more relevant. Wong Kim Ark was a man who had been born in the United States to Chinese parents. After he went to visit China, he was denied the right to re-enter the United States under the terms of the Chinese Exclusion Act. He argued that the terms of the Act did not apply to him because, having been born in the United States, he was a citizen of this country. The majority of the Supreme Court agreed—In the 1890s
Anyone who sets foot in the US except for diplomatic personnel and foreign politicians are subject to the laws of the nation and no conceivable argument can be made that they aren't
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Trump is stubborn enough to make it happen.
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It's easy. The child stays with the parents who are responsible for them. They all have to go back.
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Or, if birthright citizenship is decided to be an absolute thing, the kid gets deported with the parents but has the right to move to the US once they turn 18
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Maybe. Don't really care. Prefer 'no' because they shouldn't have been born here to begin with.
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You can't deport the children, but they could leave voluntarily to stay with the parents.
Also, extreme hardship to a U.S. citizen child can be a defense that allows cancellation of removal, but it has to be more than the ordinary hardship of deportation so that's rarely granted. Usually you see that when they allege the child won't be able to get medical care in the foreign country, or the like.
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Its not uncommon to send the children with the parents until they get older
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You can't force them to leave, but they can move voluntarily with their parents and return whenever they want later
I know a lot of people in Mexico with US citizenship who live there because they have a career and land or whatever (i'm not friends with poors so there's that)
It was common for a long time for people on the border to go back and forth, lots of people in Nuevo León were born in the US and vice versa
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Did you see this one, carp bro?
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She is so fricking
r-slurred
!r-slurs kneel
to our queen
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She was trying to build up a serious of questions so she could call him a bad person for separating families
To what point I have no idea
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!r-slurs upmarsey me too
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My vote is for autism hat
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Might do, though other !marseyartists feel free to do it if you wanna
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? she doesn't do much here. she's just trying to get him to say he wants to separate families (sounds bad)
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I did not
I got hard listening to him and I got hard looking at her
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!coomers we got him
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I never get used to her voice coming out of her mouth.
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you need to send her back as well tbh
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If you tards think that cops are gonna run around with butterfly nets chasing down the illegals, you're dumber than I thought. This is a very very simple issue. Just enforce the laws against employing illegals. Boom. Problem solved. They all go back home on their own. Anyone who whines and cries about immigration (like Republicans for decades) but doesn't want to go after the employers is a liar and a hypocrite. Let's see if Trump actually does this. The only way to solve the immigration crisis and actually really easy to do. Or is this all to dupe redneck r-slurs like the wall?
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youll be the first on the first boat
!trump2024 !project2025 put his name at the top of the list and get your nets ready
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When the fascists take over, this will be their anthem
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most people don't understand the skill needed to execute the tonguing and all of the glissandos and growls in this piece, this man was cracked
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Yeah I didn't know about that but even just whistling at this tempo is very difficult, I've tried
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We need this along with local cops handng over any illegals they happen to arrest straight to ICE. I was screaming that for 30 years. We could've gotten away with that and only that before the border was opened up.
Now we're gonna need more. Like a law that blanket refuses all of the current asylum applicants unless their life is actually in danger back home.
We have so many fake asylum seekers that they're getting hearing dates multiple years in the future. In the meantime, they get to stay and we have to pay out the nose to give them gibs,
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Yeah, the burden should not be on us to prove that someonedoesn't need asylum.
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As a compromise, can the cops chase the business owners? We already budgeted out the giant novelty butterfly nets and it'd be a shame for them to go to waste.
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Please God let this be real it'll be so funny if it is.
Because all companies honestly report the fricking legal status of their employees
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Yeah we should probably give up because this is a slightly difficult task. Instead we'll have squads of ICE troops roaming around forcing everyone on the sidewalk to prove they're a citizen like we're in goddarn fricking East Germany.
You don't need the companies to report a fricking thing. Just go to the meat-packing plants, the construction sites, the restaurants, the farms. They all employ a lot of illegals. Knock over a hundred over them and imprison the employer and the rest will stop in a heartbeat.
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Oh, you
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They will if the corporate officers go to jail under strict liability
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We could implement a citizen bounty system so burgers on scooters will chase illegals around looney tunes style.
Rules are:
Capture must be with a net; tasers aren't sporting
Max one capture per net, no trawling
If you're wrong, you get fined instead of a reward
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if you're wrong you have to be that person's indentured servant for a year
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You need to massively fine businesses for hiring them. Maybe even prosecute Abbott and other Republicans for wanting illegal immigrants.
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But I bet I can get a sweet Consuela who will speak spanish to me and be a full-time housefrau for $5/hour.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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I'll be doing her a favor. It's not exploiting her. It's actually a good thing that proves I'm a humanitarian.
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I'd even put one of those "Believe" signs in my house to feel good about it.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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Wow you're so smart and insightful
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Ikr.
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Why not both?
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I think we need both - enforcement of our employment laws and deportation of illegal immigrants already here (they won't leave even when cucked out of a job lmao they'll just keep doing shadier shit).
Of course literally nobody supports both, somehow it's considered contradictory to want to enforce all aspects of our immigration system.
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If you've got a bunch of guys picking strawberries, are you going to start issuing them ID badges? Make sure no one uses their brother's ID? Have overseers with shotguns keeping out the un-IDed riffraff?
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And not evade taxes and minimum wage laws by paying them under the table.
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Ignoring the requirements this pawns off on businesses, it's a total non-starter unless you can come up with a way to phase it in gradually.
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yeah because their lobby will scream when they start losing their slaves instead of the law just keeping them docile and afraid for a few years
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Yes, it would definitely need to be done gradually.
It shouldn't be too terribly difficult. Citizens have their state ID. Legal migrant workers get their own kind of ID. They were doing this in the 1940s so it can't be that hard. Implementing it would cost a pittance compared to the amount they're screwing the taxpayers for.
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