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What's the actual law on deporting US citizen children with non-citizen parents?

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i actually just pasted your question into google and got this lol

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Trump says he's going to end birthright citizenship

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Would require a constitutional amendment. It'll never happen.

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It'll never happen.

Trump is stubborn enough to make it happen.

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Not necessarily, the jury is out on whether congress can define it, birthright citizenship is not explicitly written in the constitution.

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Say that to R* House, senate, WH, SC. Trump can do whatever he wants and you just have to like it.

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Lol they will not pass a single amendment in the next 4 years on any subject.

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4 years

40 years*

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says increasingly nervous man for 9th time

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Trump won a big victory, but you need far more overwhelming support to pass an amendment, and I don't think Trump of all people could possibly get that support for literally anything.

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I don't think Trump of all people could possibly get that support for literally anything.

And especially not for presidency :#marseysal:

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Take a close look at the electoral map and then let me know where they're going to come up with 3/4 of the state legislatures (38 states lol) to ratify their amendments.

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75% of state legislatures have to ratify amendments you r-slurred BIPOC

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The Constitution is the supreme law of the land so anything passed by Congress would be shot down just based on 150 years of case law

They might pass it to make it look like they tried though

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shot down by who?

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Judicial review, even Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch are strict constructionists. Congress cannot contravene the Constitution, if a law is unconstitutional it is unenforceable.

Their past rulings on similar cases support this

BIPOCs ate my cat

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Normally, uhh, yeah, but historically, in representatitive republics with these 3 branches: a state of exception or emergency makes prior rulings are irrelevant. What matters is is loyalty and hegemony.

Trump has loyalty and Hegemony, only thing he needs is a state of exception/emergency and the SC will play ball.

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i think he said some bullshit about 're-interpreting' the constitution.

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>All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Seems pretty clear to me.

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>persons

i see some wriggle room

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Surely all those CCP/Saudi/Jeet Princelings born in the US and then flown back to their shitholes won't harm the US in 30 years :marseyclueless:

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They are supposed to refuse entry to pregnant women near term

On January 24, 2020, the Department of State amended its B nonimmigrant visa regulation to address birth tourism. Under this amended regulation, U.S. consular officers overseas will deny any B visa application from an applicant whom the consular officer has reason to believe is traveling for the primary purpose of giving birth in the United States to obtain U.S. citizenship for their child.

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The Mayocide is nigh. :marseyextinction:

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Latinx are white now, mayos will live

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subject to the jurisdiction thereof

This is the key phrase. Native Americans for example weren't citizens until a law in the 20s because they weren't considered subjects of the US.

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Yeah but that became legally untenable, it was originally assumed they were independent sovereign nations.

US v. Wong Kim Ark is more relevant. Wong Kim Ark was a man who had been born in the United States to Chinese parents. After he went to visit China, he was denied the right to re-enter the United States under the terms of the Chinese Exclusion Act. He argued that the terms of the Act did not apply to him because, having been born in the United States, he was a citizen of this country. The majority of the Supreme Court agreed—In the 1890s

Anyone who sets foot in the US except for diplomatic personnel and foreign politicians are subject to the laws of the nation and no conceivable argument can be made that they aren't

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That sounds like some AI bullshit. This article from some law website is like "uh... it's complicated, hire a lawyer" But obviously they want everyone to solve all their legal problems with lawyers. :marseymerchant:

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How about for each illegal, we pick one of those tards who threatens to move to Canada and deport them instead? Remember, bottled water only, Lily!

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Same with doctors. As a man with above-average intelligence I am perfectly capable of diagnosing and treating myself and I am not falling for the "see a physician if..." scam

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The Big Lawyer always wins.

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That sounds like some AI bullshit

Well yeah it literally says so right there in the header

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It's easy. The child stays with the parents who are responsible for them. They all have to go back.

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Or, if birthright citizenship is decided to be an absolute thing, the kid gets deported with the parents but has the right to move to the US once they turn 18

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Maybe. Don't really care. Prefer 'no' because they shouldn't have been born here to begin with.

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You can't deport the children, but they could leave voluntarily to stay with the parents.

Also, extreme hardship to a U.S. citizen child can be a defense that allows cancellation of removal, but it has to be more than the ordinary hardship of deportation so that's rarely granted. Usually you see that when they allege the child won't be able to get medical care in the foreign country, or the like.

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Its not uncommon to send the children with the parents until they get older

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You can't force them to leave, but they can move voluntarily with their parents and return whenever they want later

I know a lot of people in Mexico with US citizenship who live there because they have a career and land or whatever (i'm not friends with poors so there's that)

It was common for a long time for people on the border to go back and forth, lots of people in Nuevo León were born in the US and vice versa

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