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Fascism is any functional society. Anyone who makes society functional (police, landlords, small business owners, etc) is a fascist. When someone calls you a fascist, you should be proud
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I think fascism is the end state of extreme hyper-nationalism: the will of the nation embodied in one dictatorial leader, all other people and concerns subjugated to his power. It's like a more modern incarnation of the absolute monarchy. L'État, c'est moi
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There's overlap for sure. Fascism is both authoritarian and totalitarian, but I think the distinctive thing about fascism is a focus on blood-nationalism and the single leader. Fascism casts the nation as a family by blood, and the leader as ruling patriarch.
By way of counterexample, Putin is a strong authoritarian leader, but Putin's Russia is still a multiethnic federation, and he doesn't rule entirely by fiat. He's supported by the Duma and various oligarchs. It's not a totalitarian state where everything is subject to the ruler and his party.
I think fascism requires a foundational myth of the nation and it's people, which means race isn't necessary for it to work.
See Mussolini: "Race! It is a feeling, not a reality: ninety-five percent, at least, is a feeling. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today. ... National pride has no need of the delirium of race."
Germans were pretty neurodivergent about race science but I think a multi-ethnic fascist state can easily exist as long as the national myth accounts for it.
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You could be right. Falangism in Spain is kind of an interesting borderline case: They were considered fascist but then dissolved into Francoism and became something different. Their ideology was very focused around the idea of Spain as a Catholic nation, so not explicitly racial, but a religious identity opposed to the Muslims and Protestants.
Some of the Falangists in Spain had supported racialism and racialist policies, viewing races as real and existing with differing strengths, weaknesses and accompanying cultures inextricably obtained with them. However, unlike other racialists such as the Nazis, Falangism is unconcerned about racial purity and does not denounce other races for being inferior, claiming "that every race has a particular cultural significance" and claiming that the intermixing of the Spanish race and other races has produced a "Latinx supercaste" that is "ethically improved, morally robust, spiritually vigorous".[18] It was less concerned about biological Spanish racial regeneration than it was in advocating the necessity of Spanish Catholic spiritual regeneration.
Another example would be the Croatian Ustase who managed to come up with the idea that Bosnians were just Croatian Muslims (therefore more acceptable) while the Orthodox Serbs and Jews were the enemy.
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I know fascists hate the commies, but you probably could make a case that Stalinism isn't a world away from fascism. Maybe distinguishing factors are that the Soviet Union was at least nominally about the party and the brotherhood of all workers, not the greatness of one leader and one race.
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Sweaty, fascism and communism are two sides of the same coin.
About one race you're right; however, with communists their race equivalent is being a proud belligerent party member. It's more inclusive (if you forsake all values for theirs), but it's still the same shit.
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its when children arent allowed access to puberty blockers. Its when elementary schol kids dont have hustler and mein kampf in the fricking school library. Its when wh*te men walk the fricking street wearing red hats and hiding pistols under their shirt. Its when police get more funding than reparattions for the fricking descendants of actual slavery, motherlover! Its when hate speech gets platforming and media coverage while peaceful protestors get tear gassed, motherlover!
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Fascism is when people keep posting the photos of that ugly on rdrama. The more you do that and the less Hollies posted is when you have the most fascism.
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"Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule -- and both commonly succeed, and are right."
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Fascism is any functional society. Anyone who makes society functional (police, landlords, small business owners, etc) is a fascist. When someone calls you a fascist, you should be proud
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I think fascism is the end state of extreme hyper-nationalism: the will of the nation embodied in one dictatorial leader, all other people and concerns subjugated to his power. It's like a more modern incarnation of the absolute monarchy. L'État, c'est moi
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Why wouldn't you just use the word "authoritarian" or "totalitarian"? What makes fascism distinct?
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There's overlap for sure. Fascism is both authoritarian and totalitarian, but I think the distinctive thing about fascism is a focus on blood-nationalism and the single leader. Fascism casts the nation as a family by blood, and the leader as ruling patriarch.
By way of counterexample, Putin is a strong authoritarian leader, but Putin's Russia is still a multiethnic federation, and he doesn't rule entirely by fiat. He's supported by the Duma and various oligarchs. It's not a totalitarian state where everything is subject to the ruler and his party.
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I think fascism requires a foundational myth of the nation and it's people, which means race isn't necessary for it to work.
See Mussolini: "Race! It is a feeling, not a reality: ninety-five percent, at least, is a feeling. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today. ... National pride has no need of the delirium of race."
Germans were pretty neurodivergent about race science but I think a multi-ethnic fascist state can easily exist as long as the national myth accounts for it.
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You could be right. Falangism in Spain is kind of an interesting borderline case: They were considered fascist but then dissolved into Francoism and became something different. Their ideology was very focused around the idea of Spain as a Catholic nation, so not explicitly racial, but a religious identity opposed to the Muslims and Protestants.
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Stalin and the Soviet Union again.
Fascism is socialism which most socialists do not like.
That's it. It's very arbitrary.
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Sweaty, fascism and communism are two sides of the same coin.
About one race you're right; however, with communists their race equivalent is being a proud belligerent party member. It's more inclusive (if you forsake all values for theirs), but it's still the same shit.
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its when children arent allowed access to puberty blockers. Its when elementary schol kids dont have hustler and mein kampf in the fricking school library. Its when wh*te men walk the fricking street wearing red hats and hiding pistols under their shirt. Its when police get more funding than reparattions for the fricking descendants of actual slavery, motherlover! Its when hate speech gets platforming and media coverage while peaceful protestors get tear gassed, motherlover!
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Fascism is when people keep posting the photos of that ugly on rdrama. The more you do that and the less Hollies posted is when you have the most fascism.
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Easy:
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Not communism
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cant be socialism either
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Depends primarily on your political viewpoint tbh.
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Fascism is when people I disagree with WIN
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Fascism is when you dislike Jews or something
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Fascism is hypernationalism + elitism + military supremacy culture + puritanism + expansionism + patriotism + totalitarianism + eugenics + forever wars.
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Fascism is when you have good marketing.
I learned that from Iron Sky.
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Everything you don't like. Except communism.
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I'm balls deep in Kevin Dillon and Matt is balls deep in me.
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"Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule -- and both commonly succeed, and are right."
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