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r/therewasanattempt To humanize war criminals

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Probably shouldn't have killed all those kids, ey?

What evidence do you have that this guy killed kids? Are you really that simplistic that you think every individual committed atrocities? Heck not even every member of hamas has done that.

He was in the IDF, enough said.

gosh it must be lovely to live in such a simplistic world where you can totally dehumanize someone like that with zero evidence. There were even nazi's that didn't kill people. Heck some nazi soldiers even tried to kill hitler. But go ahead and pass judgement on everyone...i'm sure that will solve this 5000 year old conflict.

I will go ahead and judge them all thanks not that I need your permission. Scum the fricking lot of them and if you're defending them then you are too!

:marseyjanny: jannied. :wojaknofunallowed:


Won't somebody please think of the genociders?!

So... while it's easy to think like that... we need to remember that every member of the IDF is just as radically brainwashed as the members of Hamas, or any other terrorist organization... these are not all evil people. They were also children with hopes and dreams. You are allowed to feel bad for the human beings who are being lied to about their cause, and who are committing war crimes in the name of something that ultimately doesn't exist. It's all super fricked up and very sad. It's a profound waste of life.

No frick you and frick every single person who has ever served in the idf. You are all pieces of shit.


He murdered civilians yet was the victim?

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Biggest problem i see with our republic is that you can buy the people who makes laws

The President is for sale! :marseystocksupdown:


What?you can't sleep after the murder, r*pe, torture??? Imagine how your victims felt...

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Don't fricking both sides a genocide bro. Hamas did not start this.

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It is against the rules of TWAA to support any crimes against humanity, including Apartheid.

Jannies working overtime.


Service is mandatory there, not just a draft , as is many countries. Draft ended in the US in 1973

So was it in nazi germeny

Is that a question, or a statement?

Conscripts are not immune from committing war crimes and crimes against humanity

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So let me get this straight. When the US does this in Vietnam and Middle East, they are honourable veterans. When it's anyone else troops, they are war criminals. Got it.

They're all war criminals. Left-leaning people that criticize the IDF don't praise the US military.

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There is no hipocrisy, you're making up people that don't exist. And you're German. Your country literally supplies 30% of Israel's foreign-sourced weapons. Your government has already chosen a side and dedicated resources towards it, despite your more "pressing matters".

Germans can't keep themselves away from a good genocide :marseyhitler:

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kinda lol at the people unironically trying to argue back against it with the winning argument of "not all of them are bad, you know, like nazi soldiers for example"

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Honestly they I think they are PalestiBIPOCs supporters.

Nobody serious will even grant the premise that the IDF is conducting a genocide, let alone the premise that you can saddle Israel with the responsibility of guaranteeing zero civilian deaths in Gaza, LET ALONE the premise that GROUND TROOPS are the ones killing those civilian, LET ALOOOOONE the premise that those ground troops are going around looking for babies to kill.

Israel isn't conducting a genocide. Hamas is responsible for the deaths of civilians killed in airstrikes on Hamas targets. Ground troops have the best militant to civilian kill ratio in the entire conflict. And they aren't on a fricking baby hunt. Yet these r-slurs go straight to "well the nazis killed 6 gorrilion people as well and some of them, I assume, were good people so don't judge this guy". Frick off I know what you're doing.

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maybe tha jewish chads shouldn't have propped up hamas in the first place then

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>maybe Israel shouldn't have lifted blockades, ended all military presence, provided millions of dollars in aid, allowed Gazans to travel to and work in Israel, and supported Palestinians in choosing their own leaders.

I mean you're absolutely right that in hindsight it was a bad idea but I don't understand why PalestiBIPOCs themselves bring this point up. :marseyconfused:

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That like letting pitbulls run freely around a daycare

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BIPOC wtf are you talking about, you did it bc you didn't want secular leftist resistance, just like the us in Afghanistan, and now you're reaping what you sowed

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Look, you can hallucinate whatever "reasons" you want but the fact remains that Gaza was given autonomy, lessened border scrutiny, jobs in Israel, direct aid and money to do with what they believed was good for them but you r-slurs now characterize this as a mistake as if it's not literally what you say you want. Like what do you actually want Israel to do? If we kill all palestiBIPOCs you whine, if we kill some palestiBIPOCs you whine, if we fund and feed and employ their people and build their cities you whine "lmfao r-slurred Jews, how didn't you know they would obviously use all of that to make killing you easier? dumbass Jew"

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The Israeli policy for Gaza was a fundamentally a Leftist attempt to break the cycle of violence. From the ending of the occupation to supporting Hamas through Saudi in the hopes that they wouldn't be r-slurred enough to throw it all away.

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BIPOC stop lying lmao

you people openly advocate for genocide, land grabs, and raping a place that is mostly children. you're actually one of the less r-slurred ones here, just join your friends and admit the truth, it's less pathetic than pretending that denying Palestinian statehood and propping up terrorists was actually your way of being nice :drool:

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I'm sorry that you have to hear this from me, but Arabs are incapable of secular leftist resistance.

Israel would prefer that 100x over whatever you call the current "resistance".

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I don't know why you're bothering to lie, is it bc of your Jewish nature? I'm not some shitlib amerilard who will believe obvious fake news

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

your people admit to it openly. you supported hamas against a Palestinian state, and created and armed them decades ago, just as the US did with al-qaeda

there were plenty of leftist parties that weren't supportive of total yahudi death, but they've now mysteriously faded into obscurity :marseythinkorino:

btw how's pooping in a plastic bag and your pathetic friends committing suicide going? :marseywholesome:

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>created and armed them decades ago,

I don't know how you come up with this shit, why would Israel create let alone arm a militant islamist group???

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Sure part of Netanyahus rational for supporting Hamas was to divide Palestinians. This doesn't change the fact that in practice this was a leftist policy aimed at improving the lives of the people in Gaza so that Hamas have no reason to attack.

from the article:

Toward the end of Netanyahu's fifth government in 2021, approximately 2,000-3,000 work permits were issued to Gazans. This number climbed to 5,000 and, during the Bennett-Lapid government, rose sharply to 10,000. Since Netanyahu returned to power in January 2023, the number of work permits has soared to nearly 20,000.

this is leftist policy. This is what breaking the cycle of violence is supposed to look like. We're nice to you and gradually you become nice to us and we begin to build trust. And then these same workers spied for Hamas.

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nvm lmao you are so r-slurred

they armed hamas against legitimate leftoids

you can call it a leftist policy all you want, you still propped up literal islamist terrorists to divide Palestinians :marseyfacepalm: and now they are the face of the resistance, and every young kid whose parents you kill and home you destroy will join them, and further fuel your gross nazi extermination fetishes

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Because Pissraelis propped up Hamas and Islamist groups to destabilize the secular PLO.

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17297017203912587.webp

Buried at the bottom of the article lol. This guy ran over hundreds of people with a bulldozer "on many occasions." Most moral army in the world btw

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Running over enemy militants trying to kill you is moral.

That said, he's 100% exagerating his kill count to play up his trauma. Ground troops simply aren't killing that many people for one bulldozer driver to have racked up 100 fricking kills lmfao

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Yes I'm sure that every person trapped under rubble that he bulldozed was a terrorist, in a territory where over 75% of the population are women and children. Not like the IDF has been calling all of them terrorists since the beginning, or has a decades-long history of constantly crushing civilians to death in their homes with bulldozers. Sure doesn't sound anything like the IDF I know, they're the most moral army in the world after all.

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You can think that all you want but the article you cited doesn't say that so idk what your point in doing so is

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My point is that an IDF soldier saying that the hundreds of people he ran over were all terrorists is completely meaningless, Israelis have been calling all Gazans terrorists since the start of the war. You can just use your common sense that if you indiscriminately kill hundreds of people in an overcrowded city (when again, over 3/4 people are women and children), they are not all gonna be terrorists.

Please just admit that you think they are subhumans whose lives are worth much less than those of your countrymen instead of twisting yourself into knots trying to appear righteous, I would respect you so much more. You guys have the absolute slightest amount of moral high ground over a bunch of inbred tribal suicide bombers but stop pretending to be a first world country already.

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Israel isn't running lines of bulldozers through crowded cities you frickin imbecile.

Intentionally targeting civilians is morally reprehensible and anyone found to be doing that should be summarily executed, or whatever the highest legal form punishment is.

But I don't find it hard to admit I don't cry myself to sleep at the prospect of people dying that I have literally zero ties to. And I do generally hold my countrymen at higher value than foreigners the same way I would value my friends over strangers, or my blood over acquaintances.

It's cute that you accuse me of this while claiming I'm the one pretending to be morally righteous.

I'm sure when you're crying in to your pillow at night about all the death around the world you feel so good about just how much you care... Unless..... You don't do that?

Or how, given a choice, you'd save 5 strangers over your own brother, mother or son because that's just what morally righteous people would do... Unless... You wouldn't?

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Israel is responsible for burning my tax dollars. They can do what the frick they want i just dont want to pay for it

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Hate to break it to you but Israel, like Ukraine, is sacrificing its own people, welfare and economy to acheive United States military objectives, BTFOing Chinese allies, and helping securing US global dominance. We're doing it for literal pennies compared to what you'll have to spend to do it yourself when China gets uppity which is not a question of "if", but "when".

and btw, the vast majority of those pennies is in the form of either munitions (with an expiry date, aka if you don't drop it on something you have to pay to dispose of it) and grants to be spent on US manufactered weapons recycling that money back in to the US economy.

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Israel hasn't followed a word of what we've told (more like gently asked) them to do for the past 20 years

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There's a difference between what politicians signal to their voterbases and what is actually in the best interest of the country. Biden and Harris call for a ceasefire in public, but if you think your generals and strategists aren't high fiving each other in their war warms with each new piece of intelligence that we've blown up another high ranking Iranian proxy stooge you might be extremely naive.

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Yes, I agree that the spooks and people at the highest level of the military and intelligence want exactly what Israel wants, but that's not the point you think it is.

These people very clearly don't have the interests of the American people in mind. They're the exact same people that got us into Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. Half of them probably got caught fricking kids on the Epstein tapes.

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Nah I think they have the interest of the United States in mind absolutely. They're the people that have to think not about their re-election in 4 years, but about the inevitible war with China in 10 or 15, and how to position the US now to continue dominance in 30 or 40 or 100 years.

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They're also the people like Allen Dulles who couped and destroyed Guatemala and Iran because of largely personal grudges that he held from when he was working at Sullivan and Cromwell. People like him or John Bolton don't give a shit about the American people, they're in it for themselves and the billionaires they work as intermediaries for. Do you still think Iraq was in the best interest of the American people?

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>scorched earth economy is good !r-slurs

You know what we could spend money on? Space, Education, heathcare, infastructure, all of the above.

You know how you counter china? Dont buy their shit.

We get mixed up with everyone else because we dont make our shit here.

By all means make our weapons, if they want our stuff they can buy it, subsidizing it is why our shit sucks in ukraine,they buy it because its cheap for them not because its competiviely the best. I should know i used to work on raytheon shit.

Instill a little hunger in them

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Lmao Israel is getting billions of dollars thanks to their lobbyists, not because theyre doing important work for the USA. Peak merchant nonsense to pretend this is actually a good deal for this USA.

What military objectives is Israel accomplishing for America here? They barely helped in Iraq. They barely helped in Syria. Why would they? They're not out to do real work for America in the first place.

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I didn't say Israel is working for or even interested in "helping" America you illiterate r-slur. Israel is doing what's in its own best interest and this happens to align with US interests so supporting them in what they're doing is beneficial for the reasons I've already laid out.

You can shit and piss and cry about it all day but there are no serious military analysts that believe cutting support for Israel or Ukraine would do anything but help Russia, Iran and China and degrade US interests or that the cost of that support is anything but a absolute BARGAIN deal for what they get in return.

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You see videos of Israeli troops laughing and generally being positive when they're blowing up infrastructure in Gaza, as though they wouldn't cheer on the destruction of people who were trying to kill them and their family.

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